Fastest way to boil water - camping

[allthegearandnoidea]

I bought this one asa cheap jetboil alternative - willboil 1 cup wate rin 1 minute

https://www.anacondastores.com/camping- ... BP90036581

[TassieTiger]

I went to Bunnings today and couldn’t find the smaller butane canisters shown to be used with jet boil...they had larger cans of all shapes and sizes but not the small hexagon type shaped ones...I then asked and was advised they are / process of being discontinued due to safety?

[Oldbloke]

Gee, your fussy. Have you considered a rocket stove?

[TassieTiger]

Yes, i am fussy - I want to be able to boil water when it’s pouring and the camp wood is wet (outside fire barely kicking over) and it’s 2 degs cold and a cup of hot coffee or hot soup is worth a good BJ. Rocket stoves need fuel like anything - wet wood wouldn’t work that great...couple on amazon from steel though - cool designs and they do roar beautifully when working properly.
Think a butane gas stove might be my best bet.

[Blr243]

Winter ( or some sort of brutal cold snap ) has hit south east Qld like a hammer ....I been digging around trying to locate scarfs and beanies and all sorts of stuff to ensure I’m comfortable either walking or on the quadbike for my next trip away ...there will be no more crazy running around in the middle of the night in paddocks shirtless for me for the next 6 months .... buggered if I know how people tolerate Tasmania Or Victoria .....frosty beards , numb fingers opening ice cold steel gates and struggling to get out of the swag when the alarm goes off for an early morning hunt ....actually now is a good time for me to start inventing a fold down windscreen for my quad

[Blr243]

Winter ( or some sort of brutal cold snap ) has hit south east Qld like a hammer ....I been digging around trying to locate scarfs and beanies and all sorts of stuff to ensure I’m comfortable either walking or on the quadbike for my next trip away ...there will be no more crazy running around in the middle of the night in paddocks shirtless for me for the next 6 months .... buggered if I know how people tolerate Tasmania Or Victoria .....frosty beards , numb fingers opening ice cold steel gates and struggling to get out of the swag when the alarm goes off for an early morning hunt ....actually now is a good time for me to start inventing a fold down windscreen for my quad

[Archie]

Another vote for jetboil. I keep one in the back of the 4wd. Always good for making coffee. It’s so damn quick. It is useless without the fuel but so are most things, at the end if the day they’re all a substitute for wood.

[Chronos]

$7 pocket stove from Ebay, $12 butane cannister from BCF and a $15 set of alloy pots. about minute slower than jetboil for a hundred dollars less. Mines nearly 10 years old and going strong

Chronos

[Sarco]

I use something like this https://onlineshop.ssaa.org.au/product/ ... ettle-3lt/
My father made the one that I have, something like 60+ years ago, from copper sheet. People did that sort of thing way back then.
Not pushing the SSAA one; it just happens to be the easiest example I could find. I'm sure there would be other ones out there.

I have a similar product bought through the old Australian Geographic shops. 1.5lt stainless steel.

I generally use sticks, leaves and twigs etc. but in s**t conditions, I use a large Fowlers preserving jar lid filled with metho. Takes about 5 -7 mins from cold to boiling. The solid fuel blocks (hexamine type materials) also work well in crap conditions.

[poid]

I went to Bunnings today and couldn’t find the smaller butane canisters shown to be used with jet boil...they had larger cans of all shapes and sizes but not the small hexagon type shaped ones...I then asked and was advised they are / process of being discontinued due to safety?

nah Bunnings don't carry those. BCF, Anaconda and the like do.

[poid]

Rocket stoves need fuel like anything - wet wood wouldn’t work that great

honestly mate i've used that Kelly Kettle in all sorts of weather. Keep some fire starter packed with it, all you need is anything that is not completely soaked and you'll get it going. Once it's going even wet twigs will keep it burning.

That said I carry a Furno and gas in my pack cos I don't have a small Kelly, it gets used when car camping.

[Oldbloke]

Just add metho.. lol

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lixada-Outd ... 2966889712

[TassieTiger]

Just add metho.. lol

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lixada-Outd ... 2966889712

Metho? Screw that...pull a bullet and use the powder.

[TassieTiger]

I went to Bunnings today and couldn’t find the smaller butane canisters shown to be used with jet boil...they had larger cans of all shapes and sizes but not the small hexagon type shaped ones...I then asked and was advised they are / process of being discontinued due to safety?

nah Bunnings don't carry those. BCF, Anaconda and the like do.

Didn’t know that re canisters.
and I’ve only seen the large rocket / Kelly boilers In person. There’s a point where you might as well try and have a fire...imagine 150mm of rain in 8 hours and fuggen cold. Love the idea of boiling water with surrounding rubbish but as you say, need a back up fuel regardless.

[trekin]

I went to Bunnings today and couldn’t find the smaller butane canisters shown to be used with jet boil...they had larger cans of all shapes and sizes but not the small hexagon type shaped ones...I then asked and was advised they are / process of being discontinued due to safety?

nah Bunnings don't carry those. BCF, Anaconda and the like do.

Didn’t know that re canisters.
and I’ve only seen the large rocket / Kelly boilers In person. There’s a point where you might as well try and have a fire...imagine 150mm of rain in 8 hours and fuggen cold. Love the idea of boiling water with surrounding rubbish but as you say, need a back up fuel regardless.

Mate, if we could find enough dry fuel in the bush around Tully, FNQ, in the wet season (anual rainfall of 2 meters) then I'm sure if you look you could find some, even down there in Tas.

[TassieTiger]

Tully? Snap. Had a boss move to Tully for a 3 year contract in late 90’s. he last 6 months, as he was so upset about not getting out for golf due to insane rain all the time lol.
True true. I guess if it came to it, I could pull back some bark...but the spiders lol.
Ps. You should be asleep.

[trekin]

Sleeping is a luxury reserved only for the lazy. Besides, being awake at this hour, gives me a couple of nag free hours from the mrs.

[CAVEMAN]

Ive used, Hexi, Jet-boil and the little gas cookers.

Hexi cheap dirty takes a bit, and kind of oldschool. But is cheap and reliable. Never really liked it as it takes time and leaves a mess all over your cup. Haven't used it since i discovered the miracles of compressed gas.

Jet-boil brilliant, light easy compact and quick. I've had a Sol Ti for over 6 years been knocked around hard in my pack. Been burnt abused neglected but still works. The piezo will die but can be replaced or just carry a lighter. I advise not cooking in them but just boiling water. But can do just tricky to clean. Still have rice burnt to mine from one of the few times i did cook straight in it. Under a minute for half a litre of hot brew.

Gas burners, Not as quick but still efficient. This is the what i have just gone for to start a bit of hiking, As the Jet boil is good but its not really designed for cooking just boiling. So a little burner and a small pot is more suitable for such a task. And fairly cheaper, i picked up a burner and a cook set for under $70 witch is far cheaper than even your baseline Jet-boils.

[Stix]

Caveman brings up a good point...

Just keep jetboils use for boiling water...

Ive heated stew/casserole in mine twice, & flavoured rice only once, & the non-stick is marked/sight encrusties on it.

If im going to need to heat/cook food, i carry a small saucepan & the pot attachment...

I still carry/store mine in the packaging it came in...(would be a good 6 yrs now) & its very durable...
Admitadely mine is knocking around in back of car-- not in a backpack.

Another thing is i find them very efficient on fuel...!!
In comparison, they make those small butane burners very expensive to run.

I also carry the larger gas cylinder in the car as a backup, & a box of matches in almost every crevice...side pocket of pack, ammo box, console, glove box, passanger door, coffee n sugar box etc etc...

They are great in winter...fire up the jetboil as soon as youre outa bed & its boiled by the time youve had your morning pee...!!...
Ya gotta love that kind of efficiency...

[Oldbloke]

Grouse. Lol

[Blr243]

Many Centuries ago , when men lived in caves , as they stared into their campfires after dinner , they probably discussed and debated with each other “ what type of tree burns the hottest , and cooks our meat the quickest? They had no internet , so they couldn’t just google it , and order it through eBay

[Stix]

Many Centuries ago , when men lived in caves , as they stared into their campfires after dinner , they probably discussed and debated with each other “ what type of tree burns the hottest , and cooks our meat the quickest? They had no internet , so they couldn’t just google it , and order it through eBay

Then they stumbled across a dished rock that captured & fermented fruit ...

...& thus...

...the front bar & pool cue brawl was born...!!!...

[Oldbloke]

And then they invented the wheel to help carry the raw products to the brewery. Then take the fermented beer and wine to the pub.

[safeshot]

A kelly kettle. These are brilliant look them up.

[on_one_wheel]

A kelly kettle. These are brilliant look them up.

I bought a similar thing many years ago, it's a 1 Ltr Royce Rimfire Bush Kettle, boils a couple of cups with a handful of sticks in no time flat. I just stuff it full of sticks n twigs and place some crunched up spinifex or dried grass under it and away it goes. Being stainless is a bonus, it's pretty durable.


There's a few types on the market now, Aussie busk Kettle is another,

[Dandry]

+1 the Jetboil, have had one for years. Kmart have a copy as well, hard to go wrong for $49…. https://www.kmart.com.au/product/ultra- ... -42879091/

[Diamond Jim]

I don't own any Jetboil products so I can't comment on how well they work. They have very good reviews and a huge following - but - online this evening, Anaconda has the 230g single-use gas canister for $12.99. The 100g canister is $9.99. That works out to $56.48 and $99.90 per kilogram respectively. That will buy a lot of methylated spirits for the Trangia or similar. Just saying, Your money, your choice and sometimes convenience and weight win but I can't see a universe where I, Joe Citizen, am paying $100 for a kilogram of gas. If it comes to that I'll be rubbing sticks together.

[Oldbloke]

I don't own any Jetboil products so I can't comment on how well they work. They have very good reviews and a huge following - but - online this evening, Anaconda has the 230g single-use gas canister for $12.99. The 100g canister is $9.99. That works out to $56.48 and $99.90 per kilogram respectively. That will buy a lot of methylated spirits for the Trangia or similar. Just saying, Your money, your choice and sometimes convenience and weight win but I can't see a universe where I, Joe Citizen, am paying $100 for a kilogram of gas. If it comes to that I'll be rubbing sticks together.

We think alike.

[str8shutr]

Getting back to the physics of the question, the key is to minimise heat loss to the environment and maximise heat going into the water.

That's why the design of the Kelly Kettles, or equivalent, make such good sense. They maximise capture of heat from the rising hot air.

The speed angle is skewed by just how quickly it takes to get the fire going and the heat rate of the fuel itself.

There's probably a shoot out video on the web that accounts for the overall time involved. There'll be a certain amount of YMMV at play as well.

[Lazarus]

I'm a big Trangia fan, but have on several occasions had exhaust from the metho taint the contents I'm heating.
There's now a new gas powered model that looks the goods and it's more scalable that the 2 setting metho flame.

@womble
Have you had that taint problem?