Bent Arrow wrote:There is definitely an argument for having stuff you don't know how to use yourself, albeit up to a limit. Here's some examples......
1. A tool kit. Just because you might no have a clue how to fix your car, the next person that drives past just might.
2. 4WD recovery gear. If I have to snatch you out, I'd rather the wear and tear to be on your gear than mine.
3. Some years ago my son had an accident and got his fingers trapped between a ladder and the frame on a makeshift jetty at a friend's shack on the river. One of the adults on site was a paramedic but didn't have a first aid kit on hand. I did........... Didn't save a trip to hospital, micro-surgery and physiotherapy but it made a difficult situation easier and reinforced to me the need to have a FAK readily available
Ohh and yes, I still can't get my head around a paramedic not having a first aid kit handy at all times. Strikes me as downright stoopid.
darwindingo wrote:Bent Arrow wrote:There is definitely an argument for having stuff you don't know how to use yourself, albeit up to a limit. Here's some examples......
1. A tool kit. Just because you might no have a clue how to fix your car, the next person that drives past just might.
2. 4WD recovery gear. If I have to snatch you out, I'd rather the wear and tear to be on your gear than mine.
3. Some years ago my son had an accident and got his fingers trapped between a ladder and the frame on a makeshift jetty at a friend's shack on the river. One of the adults on site was a paramedic but didn't have a first aid kit on hand. I did........... Didn't save a trip to hospital, micro-surgery and physiotherapy but it made a difficult situation easier and reinforced to me the need to have a FAK readily available
Ohh and yes, I still can't get my head around a paramedic not having a first aid kit handy at all times. Strikes me as downright stoopid.
Agree on all counts..
The several paramedic's I know live and breath it, I can't say I have ever seen them to be more than 10 feet away from a FAK, so I guess I'm a little surprised about that... Bloody lucky you had yours handy though Hope your boys fingers are are as good as new
tom604 wrote:fully agree, but you cant carry everything when your going for a longish stroll, too heavy and you may not take it. the red cross makes a four wheel drive kit that with an addition of a couple of snake bite bandages will keep you alive till you get help (i have that one in the car at all times) if your going remote/alone a plb is a good thing to carry, even if it takes help too long to get to you they will at least find your body
Mitch wrote:This is all well and good, but do you know how to use everything properly. No use having stuff if you can't
Bent Arrow wrote:Ohh and yes, I still can't get my head around a paramedic not having a first aid kit handy at all times. Strikes me as downright stoopid.
Homer wrote:Lorgar, my Fist Aid kit comprises a few Band Aids, a Compression bandage, a bottle of OP Rum and a .45.
Lorgar wrote:That's a bit harsh. Just because he's a paramedic doesn't mean he has to shoulder everybody else's responsibility to take care of themselves.
If he's in a position to help, that's great, but people are responsible for their own well being. If you're not prepared, and you're reliant on others to take care of you, then you get what you get and have no right to complain IMO.
We don't expect tyre fitters to carry around spare tires and change them for everyone they pass just because they work in that industry, do we. If you puncture a tyre and end up stuck on the side of the road because you aren't carrying a spare that's on you.
Don't get me wrong, what happened to your son obviously sucks, I'm not pointing fingers or having a go at him or anyone else, but it's certainly not the paramedics fault, or his responsibility.
I'd be thankful he was there, not criticizing him for not having a kit on him.
Daddybang wrote:A bit of knowledge about bush medicine doesn't hurt to have either. Lots of plants in this country that can be used. I wil add that ya don't ever use'em unless ya know what ya doing many plants can be helpful or harmful depending on how they're prepped and many plants that look similar can have very different effects.
Bigjobss wrote:Daddybang wrote:A bit of knowledge about bush medicine doesn't hurt to have either. Lots of plants in this country that can be used. I wil add that ya don't ever use'em unless ya know what ya doing many plants can be helpful or harmful depending on how they're prepped and many plants that look similar can have very different effects.
A skill I have always wanted to have thanks to Malcolm Douglas, about time I learned a new skill.
I did learn about a native pepper bush in the Vic alps last year and used some when cooking up some freshly caught trout just metres away, that was pretty cool.
Daddybang wrote:Bigjobs if ya ever comin my way give me a shout. Always got a coldie in the fridge and something to throw on a bbq plate.
Bigjobss wrote:Daddybang wrote:Bigjobs if ya ever comin my way give me a shout. Always got a coldie in the fridge and something to throw on a bbq plate.
Much obliged, generous offer and one I would take up