Buying my first firearm, any 22LR suggestions?

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Post by in2anity » 28 Aug 2018, 11:05 am

Wm.Traynor wrote:Who said the CZ wasn't a project gun?

lol. you are a bolder man than I WM. thanks for the tip good to know :thumbsup:
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Post by Gwion » 31 Aug 2018, 8:29 am

WM. What's the issue with a bore guide?
Also, filing the ejector sounds a bit rash: how well will the rifle eject after this?
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 31 Aug 2018, 10:10 am

Gwion wrote:WM. What's the issue with a bore guide?

I will have to look up a topic on RimfireCentral.com to answer that, reliably. Won't be until this pm earliest.

Also, filing the ejector sounds a bit rash: how well will the rifle eject after this?


It won't.
In a manner of speaking, there are two ejectors. One seems to be part of the magazine housing. I am experimenting with removable ejectors. One is part of the magazine; something that I epoxied to it. The J B Weld does not seem to be hardening and I have no confidence in it. Have made two wooden prototypes, one with aluminium inserts. Both untested so far. Have to go to Bris this am. Will resume tomorrow.
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Post by Farmerpete » 31 Aug 2018, 7:19 pm

Have you considered a pump or lever action make for a good fun plinking rifle and faster shots on bunnies
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Post by Wombat » 31 Aug 2018, 7:57 pm

There are three different unfired BRNO model 2's for sale at the moment.
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 31 Aug 2018, 9:37 pm

Gwion,
You will find a discussion on bore guides here
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/s ... 289&page=2
The third line of reply #11 is mildly interesting but reply #17 by PABEAR got my attention. In addition, I long recall being told or maybe just hearing that it does not matter how well made the guide is. If both the rifle's bore and the action's axis are not concentric then there will be rod wear, owing to misalignment.
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Post by bigfellascott » 31 Aug 2018, 10:09 pm

They are all good rifles so go with what feels good to you and happy to pay for. I like my Daughters little Savage HB, it can shoot tiny groups and isn't overly heavy compared to some (I find the lithgows a bit on the heavy side for a 22, which I think would be a PITA to carry around all day out bush (I could be wrong) my little Brno Mod 2 is a great little hunting rifle, nice and light and shoots nicely too.

End of the day if you buy something and you find it's not quite to your liking you can always sell it and try something else.

Good luck with your decision.
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Post by bigrich » 01 Sep 2018, 5:03 am

bigfellascott wrote:They are all good rifles so go with what feels good to you and happy to pay for. I like my Daughters little Savage HB, it can shoot tiny groups and isn't overly heavy compared to some (I find the lithgows a bit on the heavy side for a 22, which I think would be a PITA to carry around all day out bush (I could be wrong) my little Brno Mod 2 is a great little hunting rifle, nice and light and shoots nicely too.

End of the day if you buy something and you find it's not quite to your liking you can always sell it and try something else.

Good luck with your decision.


you raise a very important point BFS. i have a weihrauch hw66 that's extremely well built and accurate. but i just got my old krico 22 back from the smith's yesterday, and it's a LOT lighter. which was the reason i used to like my cz 452 so much. out in the paddock a light to carry , quick to shoulder 22 is probably more important than one hole accuracy. :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by bigfellascott » 01 Sep 2018, 5:36 am

bigrich wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:They are all good rifles so go with what feels good to you and happy to pay for. I like my Daughters little Savage HB, it can shoot tiny groups and isn't overly heavy compared to some (I find the lithgows a bit on the heavy side for a 22, which I think would be a PITA to carry around all day out bush (I could be wrong) my little Brno Mod 2 is a great little hunting rifle, nice and light and shoots nicely too.

End of the day if you buy something and you find it's not quite to your liking you can always sell it and try something else.

Good luck with your decision.


you raise a very important point BFS. i have a weihrauch hw66 that's extremely well built and accurate. but i just got my old krico 22 back from the smith's yesterday, and it's a LOT lighter. which was the reason i used to like my cz 452 so much. out in the paddock a light to carry , quick to shoulder 22 is probably more important than one hole accuracy. :thumbsup: :drinks:


That's pretty much how I see it BR, all you need in any hunting rifle is one that consistently places that first shot where you intend it to go or as close to the POA in any case, as I say we don't shoot groups on fur so don't get all hung up on one hole group accuracy in a hunting rifle. I like to put those little orange stick on dots on a sheet of cardboard and just take one shot at each do, you'd be amazed how consistent the results can be, yet if I sat there trying to shoot say a 5 shot group at one dot and the groups was say around 1" I'd be disappointed as we all think we have to shoot tiny groups to have a decent hunting rifle, it really isn't the case at all.

My little Brno Mod 2 ain't no target rifle yet it manages to hammer rabbits in the head out to around the 80m mark with good consistency if I do my part right, what more do I need from a hunting rifle if I can get good consistent results whilst out hunting? :unknown:

It's all good a well having a rifle that can shoot tiny groups on a range where distances are static and you know then, you have a wonderful rest to shoot off and can take your time to fart around reading the wind and waiting for the wind to be in your favour etc etc, those things don't really exist in the real world of hunting where it's see something, get in a position to get the best rest you can to take a good shot and ya go for it before the little bugger buggers off. :D

I really think people confuse the two types of situations and the way they both work in real life. :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 01 Sep 2018, 5:59 am

i think your absolutely right with that last line in your post BFS.i live /work in the outer suburbs halfway between brisbane and the gold coast, rarely go to either of those places, city life/people can give me the sh@ts at times .i have mates who live/work rural, so i get to hunt about a dozen times a year when i can get the time and my mates can get the time off work. a lot of my shooting is done at ripley (stewartdale ) SSAA range on the weekend. it's in a rural setting and much more freindly and laid back than belmont in brisbane i'll tell ya ! it's enjoyable reloading , shooting groups and i like the social aspect and talking to other people about their guns ( met a bloke who had a barvarian full wood anschutz in 270 with the twin triggers, man what a great old rifle ). but in the feild shooting at moving targets on the fly is a vastly different circumstance. the rifle that works well at the range may not be the best in the paddock . hopefully i'll win the lotto and buy a big block in the tenterfeild reigon where i get to hunt. :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Re: Buying my first firearm, any 22LR suggestions?

Post by cracker » 01 Sep 2018, 10:52 am

Find your self a FN "browning trombone" 22LR pump action.
They handle great, point really well and shoot super well.
quality made belgian gun designed by god him self.

Can be had rough for as low as $200-$300, and better examples around $500-$700.

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he FN Browning Trombone is a pump-action long takedown rifle designed by John M. Browning in 1919, patented on 1 August 1922 and manufactured by Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal Belgium from 1922 to 1974. Models manufactured post 1969 had a product code W.

The rifle has a .22 caliber chamber, a tubular 11-round magazine, 24-inch round barrel, wooden semi-pistol grip stock. Models made in the late 1960s featured a dovetail notch for mounting scopes.

The stocks of early models were susceptible to cracking, sometimes attributed to the shape of the receiver; later models, such as the dovetail scope variant, appeared to solve this problem. The pump grip of all models is susceptible to cracking, the wood between the magazine and barrel being especially thin, this rarely detected unless the rifle is disassembled.
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Post by Breadroll » 04 Sep 2018, 11:04 pm

I have just bought a Savage Mark II G as my first rifle. While it isn't as tight on groups compared to the Lithgow that I have shot a few times at Springvale SSAA Range, it was great fun to shoot, and not too expensive to start off with.
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Post by bigrich » 05 Sep 2018, 5:51 pm

Breadroll wrote:I have just bought a Savage Mark II G as my first rifle. While it isn't as tight on groups compared to the Lithgow that I have shot a few times at Springvale SSAA Range, it was great fun to shoot, and not too expensive to start off with.


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Post by green_comet » 28 Sep 2018, 7:31 pm

Hey guys, just wanted to touch base and thank everyone here for their comments and suggestions.

I went down to my local gun store earlier today and was able to shoulder the new Steyr Zephyr II and a Tikka T1X (albeit in 17hmr), both were nice but didn't really blow me away. I did make a decision though and finally put a deposit down on this Weihrauch HW60J.

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I really liked this rifle when I shouldered it a few weeks back, it's on the heavy side but I just couldn't stop coming back to it and I found myself comparing every rifle I'd hold to the HW60 in some way. I know this sounds silly, but every time I was holding the HW60 it felt like I was holding something special. It just oozed quality, the build looks and feels top notch, the two stage trigger was excellent and the bolt throw/action for me was the best of the bunch. I'm extremely happy and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Post by ClaytonT88 » 28 Sep 2018, 7:41 pm

That is one beautiful looking rifle! Very interested to see that you shouldered both the T1 and Zephyr, lots of good news about both but great to see you found one you fell in love with! Did you shoulder the HW66 side by side with it? Did the open sights sway you towards it?
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Post by green_comet » 28 Sep 2018, 9:12 pm

ClaytonT88 wrote:That is one beautiful looking rifle! Very interested to see that you shouldered both the T1 and Zephyr, lots of good news about both but great to see you found one you fell in love with! Did you shoulder the HW66 side by side with it? Did the open sights sway you towards it?


Thanks mate. Yeah my local store (Gunco) had both the T1X and the Zephyr II there, The T1X felt pretty much just like the T3X (no surprise there) which was nice, I really wasn't a fan of the synthetic stock though. The Steyr was nice, very lightweight and well made. I wasn't a big fan of the action of the bolt, which did slide smooth but was quite hard to lock and unlock. It was almost the same price as the Weihrauch too, but just didn't feel like it was in the same league build wise.

I did shoulder the HW66 Production and quite liked it too, I just preferred the stock on the HW60J. It was more comfortable and had nice checkering which the HW66 didn't, the fact the HW60J came with open sights also helped sway me to it over the HW66.
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Post by ClaytonT88 » 29 Sep 2018, 7:24 am

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. Happy shooting!
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Post by allan » 29 Sep 2018, 2:28 pm

I think you will be very impressed with that HW60J and I will be interested to see how it performs for you.
I have one - Finish, design and build quality right up there with the Anschutz 17XX sporters IMO.
Might be a bit heavy for some as a "carry" rifle but an excellent hunting rifle regardless.
Take care with that two stage trigger - Can be adjusted very light!
Bit hard to control well in a BR situation due to the narrow tapered fore end and cheek rest but a little practice will go a long way towards over-coming that!
Enjoy!!
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