Wombat wrote:Well, if you are going to stick with rimfire Winchester now do subsonic 22mag ammo. That gives you a quieter option with a bit more oomph than Subsonic LR.
Chappo wrote:Thanks guys.
Yeah big rich. Doesn’t have to be a rimfire, just trying to keep the noise down a bit and I don’t have experience with the less common Hornet - bee etc rounds.
I’m leaning towards 22wmr for the extra stopping power at 150yds.
Duncan, I see you’ve got a .22 Hornet. What do you think of it?
duncan61 wrote:damn now I have to get these 22 Cal .224 35 gr V-MAX® and spend the weekend reloading
duncan61 wrote:Sometimes in life we do things for the hell of it.I reload hornet and love the little fella.It will never catch the .222 no matter what some people claim and I soft load my .222 for about 2800 with 50g pills even a K hornet wont go that fast
bladeracer wrote:Wombat wrote:Well, if you are going to stick with rimfire Winchester now do subsonic 22mag ammo. That gives you a quieter option with a bit more oomph than Subsonic LR.
Not much difference in energy if both are similar weight at the same velocity. Is the Winchester a heavier bullet?
duncan61 wrote:Many years ago I carefully necked out Hornet cases to .243 to make something like the 300 whisper.I never got round to getting a rifle chambered for it but now it is all doable
duncan61 wrote:22 Cal .224 35 gr V-MAX® in .223 would be zipping along at around 3500fps.Thats cooking.Do you remember when 3000fps sounded fast
bladeracer wrote:duncan61 wrote:Sometimes in life we do things for the hell of it.I reload hornet and love the little fella.It will never catch the .222 no matter what some people claim and I soft load my .222 for about 2800 with 50g pills even a K hornet wont go that fast
Agreed, I would have no hesitation in adding a Hornet to my collection. But for most people that only like a handful of rifles, they're better served by getting something bigger they can load down for "Hornet" use, while also having the greater abilities of the full-power load. .243 can be loaded down to do everything the Hornet will do.
TassieTiger wrote:There is a truly eye opening video on YouTube where ppl are testing the lethality of a .22 at distance. The line in the sand from memory was a 3/4inch of pine - if it could penetrate that then it is apparently regarded as lethal.
At 200m the holes - CCI high velocity ammo - was crisp cut.
At 300m - the holes were crisp cut.
Only at 400m was the bullet occasionally getting stuck.
This opened my eyes dramatically...I would have never believed a .22 LR would do that...
I then decided to push my cz .22 to 120m site range for a bit of fun. Drop was about 2.5-3 inches from the previous 50m site in
I’ve nailed rabbits stone dead at 150 with that cz. Can’t speak for foxes.
Oh, I should have added - I was using lapua magazine .22 sub sonics. It is almost laughable waiting for the bullet to reach the target but, it works and the bunnies don’t scare at all from what amounts to a loud hammer strike type noise. I’m not sure I’d try it on anything bigger, I don’t know that it would be a quick dispatch on a larger hare or fox.
TassieTiger wrote:From memory, I was already 1 inch high on the 50m - but it was a while ago now...
Regardless - it was an eye opener, as you've explained above. I dont think I'd be confident at your distances at this stage, but I can see what you mean re time for bullet to hit...it's hilarious fun. I think it also depends on where you shooting as well as the echo can mess up the effect if in a canyon environment.
180m and extra low velocity goes through steel corrugation ? that's surely a kill on a rabbit / hare!!!
bladeracer wrote:TassieTiger wrote:From memory, I was already 1 inch high on the 50m - but it was a while ago now...
Regardless - it was an eye opener, as you've explained above. I dont think I'd be confident at your distances at this stage, but I can see what you mean re time for bullet to hit...it's hilarious fun. I think it also depends on where you shooting as well as m echo can mess up the effect if in a canyon environment.
180m and extra low velocity goes through steel corrugation ? that's surely a kill on a rabbit / hare!!!
It certainly has enough power to kill at that sort of range, but it doesn't have the precision to ensure good placement. Even if you can hold 1MoA out to 180m, the trajectory (710fps is 2600mm drop from a 55m zero) requires absolute perfection in ranging the target (one meter short or long is 30mm elevation difference), and reading the wind.
I just finished putting 200rds on steel at 40m, 160m, 166m and 225m with the Ruger Rimfire Target. I also shot some 10rd groups but haven't been up yet to look at them.
I knocked the rifle off the bench this morning - again!
It landed right on the elevation turret on the floor so I had to go and check zero.
Not too bad, it seems to have compressed the rear adjustable ring a bit so it was shooting 9MoA low at 40m, and 2MoA to the left.
But cycling through various ranges I was shooting tenth-scale steel silhouettes at 160m without any problems, although those chickens are a bit small for consistent hits.
TassieTiger wrote:From memory, I was already 1 inch high on the 50m - but it was a while ago now...
Regardless - it was an eye opener, as you've explained above. I dont think I'd be confident at your distances at this stage, but I can see what you mean re time for bullet to hit...it's hilarious fun. I think it also depends on where you shooting as well as the echo can mess up the effect if in a canyon environment.
180m and extra low velocity goes through steel corrugation ? that's surely a kill on a rabbit / hare!!!
in2anity wrote:Tenth scale chickens would be only slightly more than 1” wide - you’d be doing well to hit them even at 100m
in2anity wrote:It’s cruel shooting rabbits past 100m with a 22lr - expansion is virtual non existent which means a non-vital zone passes right through and only wounds. Ive done it, and I regret it.
bladeracer wrote:You're quite right!
I meant fifth-scale for rimfire silhouette.
Tenth is for air-rifles I think.
Diamond Jim wrote:If that is the Slazenger 22 Hornet built on a SMLE action I think you are going to be very happy. We've had one in the family for over 50 years and it's an accurate rifle that has never let us down. Ours is fitted with iron sights only but it's never been an issue over the Hornet's range.