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Re: 223 or 243

Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 10 Dec 2018, 1:09 pm

JimTom wrote:Ideally mate I would get a .223 and a .308.


+1 to both although my agreement with JimTom may be my 'confirmation bias' because that's what i did... first rifle was a 223 (which is such a pleasure to shoot all day and makes me look better than I am, cheap to run too), then #2 was a 308.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Stix » 10 Dec 2018, 2:17 pm

If you're gonna shoot more of the smaller stuff...roos bunnies, foxes cats & also wana plink away at the range...& the odd ham here & there...
223 for first centrefire without question...!

If mostly just smashing pigs & a few roos with an occasional hit at cousins of bambi...243.

But a 223 will do them all with the right ammo & ability. :thumbsup:

You might get a bit longer out of the 223 barrel as well so thats a bonus for the novelty of a first centrefire. :thumbsup:

243's are considerably louder too...so if you're into the spotlighting game with noise sensative vermin around, volume may also be a consideration...

In general...223 for your first...
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by JimTom » 10 Dec 2018, 2:26 pm

BangBangSkeetSkeet wrote:
JimTom wrote:Ideally mate I would get a .223 and a .308.


+1 to both although my agreement with JimTom may be my 'confirmation bias' because that's what i did... first rifle was a 223 (which is such a pleasure to shoot all day and makes me look better than I am, cheap to run too), then #2 was a 308.


:-) exactly what I did too mate.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Blr243 » 10 Dec 2018, 4:38 pm

Years ago when I had to hand in my mini 14 semi auto 223 I intended replacing it with a lever action 223 but there was only a 243 in stock of the lever gun that I wanted. I’m glad I have the 243 now ( wild horses nz thar fallow and reds. and the occasional brute of a boar )
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Oldbloke » 10 Dec 2018, 5:50 pm

JimTom wrote:Mate if you are going to restrict yourself to the one centrefire then I’d say go the .243, good all rounder for what you have mentioned.
Ideally mate I would get a .223 and a .308.



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Re: 223 or 243

Post by RoginaJack » 10 Dec 2018, 8:23 pm

If you still want carryable perhaps go down to a 20". Those Howas mini-actions are pretty amazing. :thumbsup:[/quote]

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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Bruiser64 » 10 Dec 2018, 9:00 pm

JimTom wrote:Mate if you are going to restrict yourself to the one centrefire then I’d say go the .243, good all rounder for what you have mentioned.
Ideally mate I would get a .223 and a .308.


I totally agree. In the unlikely event you will stick to one centrefire rifle, get the .243 as it is very versatile. Having said that, I doubt you will stick with one. I would agree you are better of cutting to the chase and get a .223 and a .308. The Howas are very well regarded and excellent value, so it won’t be too expensive to one in each calibre.

I have a 243 and I love it. With the shooting I do, I am finding I am using my .204 a lot more than the 243. I also have a 17 Hmr which I took out for the first time last night. I shot a fox and several rabbits with the Hmr and three foxes with my .204. There is obviously a huge difference in hitting power between the hmr and the 204. I intend sticking to the 204 when targeting foxes in preference to the hmr.

Whilst l love my 204, the ubiquity of the 223 is a more rational and cost effective choice in my opinion. So in my experience your 17 hmr, a 223 and a 308 is likely to easily cover most game species in Australia. I would, however also add the 22 lr as it is almost treason not to own one in Australia.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Faedy » 11 Dec 2018, 12:24 am

Mate - you will buy more. Its a fact of life ..lmao.
With the 17hmr in your lot, is a no brainer to go to the .243 for the extra range and hitting power.
Down the track when you got a few extra sheckles, add the .223 then, plus a .300 winmag :-)
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Diamond Jim » 12 Dec 2018, 1:30 am

I also can't believe I'm going to say this because my .223 is a laser, but if you are going to keep the .17 then you already have a lot of the .223 ground covered. I don't own a .243 but my brother (farmer) does and it is his "do all" rifle. Superbly accurate (Win 70), doesn't put a huge number of rounds through it and they are tax deductible anyway so he doesn't reload. The .243 covers the gap before you need a seriously "big" rifle - everything from fox to deer. I'd be thinking seriously about the .243. It does bark though.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by simpsonhey » 29 Dec 2018, 9:39 pm

Ok so on the weekend i shot a couple off 22s fun all day. Im still waiting on my pta for my 17. I shot a remington 223 and the tikka 223 wow nice guns and powerfull. So i dident get to shoot a 243 but i shot a 270 and a 30-30. The 270 was solid and had a lot off whip(im only new to shooting first day out). The 30 -30 was a pig short leaver action and punched hard. Id love to shoot a 308. So my mates have a lot off guns that i could borrow to shoot with them and im looking at a 223 and a cheep 22lr this will cover everything atm .
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by pomemax » 29 Dec 2018, 10:18 pm

brett1868 wrote:.223 or .243....shoulder them both and get what feels better that fits within the budget.

then buy .222 .223 .243 .22-250 .270 .308 30-06 300 wsm 375 45/70 357 / 38 S and be just like the rest of us lol make sure you get the biggest safe you can Times 3 or 4
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Sawyers » 29 Dec 2018, 11:15 pm

simpsonhey wrote:Ok so on the weekend i shot a couple off 22s fun all day. Im still waiting on my pta for my 17. I shot a remington 223 and the tikka 223 wow nice guns and powerfull. So i dident get to shoot a 243 but i shot a 270 and a 30-30. The 270 was solid and had a lot off whip(im only new to shooting first day out). The 30 -30 was a pig short leaver action and punched hard. Id love to shoot a 308. So my mates have a lot off guns that i could borrow to shoot with them and im looking at a 223 and a cheep 22lr this will cover everything atm .

Dont cheap out on the 22lr, you'll end up shooting it more than any other firearm you own and you'll only end up wanting something bettet
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by bigfellascott » 29 Dec 2018, 11:55 pm

Sawyers wrote:
simpsonhey wrote:Ok so on the weekend i shot a couple off 22s fun all day. Im still waiting on my pta for my 17. I shot a remington 223 and the tikka 223 wow nice guns and powerfull. So i dident get to shoot a 243 but i shot a 270 and a 30-30. The 270 was solid and had a lot off whip(im only new to shooting first day out). The 30 -30 was a pig short leaver action and punched hard. Id love to shoot a 308. So my mates have a lot off guns that i could borrow to shoot with them and im looking at a 223 and a cheep 22lr this will cover everything atm .

Dont cheap out on the 22lr, you'll end up shooting it more than any other firearm you own and you'll only end up wanting something bettet


I bought a cheap 22, still got it and love it. :unknown:
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 29 Dec 2018, 11:59 pm

You can do alot with the 243 i love watching things explode with a 58gr proj and my current go to being the 87gr vmax available cheaply for $129 per 500. I also have a 223 that is a laser pointer. At the end of the day the 223 will do 75% of most things in Australia 243 given the correct placment will do most of the big game probably only excluding buff. Id use the 45-70 for that. Either way you cant go wrong just have to think about you hip pocket at the end of the day 223 is dirt cheap and even cheaper to reload for.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by simpsonhey » 30 Dec 2018, 5:33 am

I shot a puma and a cz on weekend and honestly liked the puma better i had no idea thry were cheep
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Sawyers » 30 Dec 2018, 10:54 pm

bigfellascott wrote:
Sawyers wrote:
simpsonhey wrote:Ok so on the weekend i shot a couple off 22s fun all day. Im still waiting on my pta for my 17. I shot a remington 223 and the tikka 223 wow nice guns and powerfull. So i dident get to shoot a 243 but i shot a 270 and a 30-30. The 270 was solid and had a lot off whip(im only new to shooting first day out). The 30 -30 was a pig short leaver action and punched hard. Id love to shoot a 308. So my mates have a lot off guns that i could borrow to shoot with them and im looking at a 223 and a cheep 22lr this will cover everything atm .

Dont cheap out on the 22lr, you'll end up shooting it more than any other firearm you own and you'll only end up wanting something bettet


I bought a cheap 22, still got it and love it. :unknown:

Cheap as in poor quality or cheap as in a good deal? because theres a big difference
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by bigfellascott » 31 Dec 2018, 5:32 am

Sawyers wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:
Sawyers wrote:
simpsonhey wrote:Ok so on the weekend i shot a couple off 22s fun all day. Im still waiting on my pta for my 17. I shot a remington 223 and the tikka 223 wow nice guns and powerfull. So i dident get to shoot a 243 but i shot a 270 and a 30-30. The 270 was solid and had a lot off whip(im only new to shooting first day out). The 30 -30 was a pig short leaver action and punched hard. Id love to shoot a 308. So my mates have a lot off guns that i could borrow to shoot with them and im looking at a 223 and a cheep 22lr this will cover everything atm .

Dont cheap out on the 22lr, you'll end up shooting it more than any other firearm you own and you'll only end up wanting something bettet


I bought a cheap 22, still got it and love it. :unknown:

Cheap as in poor quality or cheap as in a good deal? because theres a big difference


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Re: 223 or 243

Post by bigrich » 31 Dec 2018, 6:47 am

30 plus years ago, before we were spoiled for choice, the 243 was the "one gun" for everything .pigs , goats , deer , if you upgraded from a three-oh , to a new fangled flat shooting sporter , 243 was it . at least that's how i remember it in south east queensland back then. of coarse if ya lived in NT ya owned something bigger . a lot of big stuff was killed with 303's back when, and with the 30-30 and 44-40's as well . in another generation , 300 win mag will be required for goats at this rate :lol: :lol: :lol:

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