rc42 wrote:One real advantage of an air rifle, especially in .177, is that you can shoot upwards, maybe toward a tree, with no concern about where the pellet will end up as it will eventually stop climbing and fall like a extra tiny (8 grain) hailstone and do no damage no matter what it hits.
Obviously care should be taken with any firearm to ensure that projectiles never leave your property but that's easier with air rifles than any other type.
Stix wrote:[quote="rc42"One real advantage of an air rifle, especially in .177, is that you can shoot upwards, maybe toward a tree, with no concern about where the pellet will end up as it will eventually stop climbing and fall like a extra tiny (8 grain) hailstone and do no damage no matter what it hits.
Obviously care should be taken with any firearm to ensure that projectiles never leave your property but that's easier with air rifles than any other type.[/quote
Haha...!!
Cool...!!
Lets all go out & start shooting sh!t in the air then...
You say that in a way that youre almost implying other projectiles fired from cartridges using gunpowder as a proppellant, keep going upwards & leave our atmosphere...
Gees can you imagine the amount of #4's & #7's lead shot circling the earth from all those missed clays & ducks...
Also, while im no astro physicist, to my mind, given lead has a density (or mass) thats in the vicinity of ten times that of ice, & given that bulk density difference, will likely impart a greater force on a smaller area of the eyeball of the poor sod your cowboy & indian escapades result in hitting...
Having said that, seeing you in a debate with GCA would make for good entertainment...they say fighting fire with fire is logical... ...
rc42 wrote:Airgun pellets ... ... ...
If fired at an upward angle they don't arc .
TassieTiger wrote:I think some air rifle pellets are like my mates RC chopper he bought for $399.
It was blowing outside - he took out his brand new RC heli, got the family round, gave it full throttle and pressed the up control...it went vertical at 100mph...got 100m up and the wind got it and we never saw it again - it was out of range but stayed at full throttle. It definitely didn’t stay on the property lol. Mind you - I was crying with laughter for hours as he was crying at his wallet.
But on topic - over last 2 years I’ve had 3 break barrel air rifles in .177 for back yard plunking, birds etc. I bought 2 new (Vmax game was $299, dianna was $350 and bsa was $400) and 1 second hand.
I’ve now sold all of them - consistently was not there and drove me round the twist testing scopes, pellets, etc. I couldn’t get anything resembling consistent accuracy 30-50m. All of these were meant to be over 1000fps - so 30-50m should have been doable.
A friend bought a $2500 air compressor rifle and tbh, even that doesn’t come close to moa on a regular basis and it’s now a safe queen.
Now when I was a kid, I seem to recall hitting matchboxes and smaller at semi .22 ranges With my pump up .177 so I’m not sure how/why, but it seems as if accuracy has dropped off in the last 30 years...at least on the budget air rifles I tried.
bigrich wrote:[quote="Stix" Airgun pellets ... ... ...
If fired at an upward angle they don't arc .
Stix wrote:Just gotta say---this new system of quoting just makes this place look like shyte mess...
Sergeant Hartman wrote:The best way to get rats is poison, the one hit kill type, not the lollies that Bunnings sell. We had enough rats that i started seeing then during the day. Two days after baiting i have a problem,... i see dead rats (everywhere)
rc42 wrote:Poison is a very cruel way to kill anything, a very slow and painful death that has no target control, anything that eats the poison dies, anything that then feeds on its body dies. Shooting is better in every way despite needing more effort.
The only place I would use poison is in the roof space of my house to control rodents when we occasionally get them. Shooting isn't practical there, even with an air rifle and they are not only an annoyance with noise at night but chewing electrical cables could burn the whole house down.