Got the CZ 452 varmint. .22LR

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Got the CZ 452 varmint. .22LR

Post by Gun nut. » 02 Mar 2019, 5:03 pm

Finally found one of these after looking for a while. Topped it off with a leupold 3x9x40 , can't wait for a good range session now!. I would be interested on your thoughts on which ammo this rifle may like. Cheers.

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Post by yoshie » 02 Mar 2019, 5:19 pm

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Post by TassieTiger » 02 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm

Looks exactly like mine ;-)
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Post by Diamond Jim » 03 Mar 2019, 1:34 am

I have the same rifle topped with a cheap, knock-off sight from a well-known online seller based in Asia. I figured after spending nearly $1000 on the rifle I'd buy a cheap scope and replace it down the track as funds became available. Well, 5 years on and I've still got the cheap scope and the combo is a tack driver. If and when it dies I'll buy a brand name scope because this rifle deserves one but until then I'm happy with what I have.
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Post by combo12 » 03 Mar 2019, 2:05 pm

SK Rifle Match are great ( I have the same rifle) also Lapua CentreX. Mine doesn’t like Eley for some reason.
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Post by wildcard6 » 03 Mar 2019, 7:59 pm

Your ammo choice may be determined by what you want to do with the rifle. Hunting? Target shooting? I have used Winchester Power Points for many decades in my CZ452 Varmint, but in recent years, quality has deteriorated and I've had three misfires in one box of fifty! All fired when rotated 180 degrees in the chamber. CCI Mini Mag or Velocitor is very good, reliable ammo for hunting. For target work, I use both CCI Standards [cheap] for informal metallic silhouette shooting out to 100m, then I'm using SK Standard+ [twice the price] for more serious accuracy [I'm shooting out to 300 yards on metallic silhouettes]. One thing you might want to look at is putting a stock ammo pack on your rifle, because cheek-weld may be poor with your set up. Your scope mounts are quite high, and you may find the stock doesn't naturally align your eye with the scope as a result. The simple solution is to add a stock ammo pack. If your trigger is stock standard, various options exist to improve it. A light, crisp trigger is a real aide to better accuracy. Enjoy your rifle!
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Post by Cooper » 03 Mar 2019, 8:20 pm

What year is your cz452? Should be stamped on left hand side of barrel? Will be interested to see how it shoots. I have a CZ 452 classic (American) mine is 1999 model. CCI standard for plinking. SK rifle match is the best I've tried.
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Post by Gun nut. » 04 Mar 2019, 4:47 pm

wildcard6 wrote:Your ammo choice may be determined by what you want to do with the rifle. Hunting? Target shooting? I have used Winchester Power Points for many decades in my CZ452 Varmint, but in recent years, quality has deteriorated and I've had three misfires in one box of fifty! All fired when rotated 180 degrees in the chamber. CCI Mini Mag or Velocitor is very good, reliable ammo for hunting. For target work, I use both CCI Standards [cheap] for informal metallic silhouette shooting out to 100m, then I'm using SK Standard+ [twice the price] for more serious accuracy [I'm shooting out to 300 yards on metallic silhouettes]. One thing you might want to look at is putting a stock ammo pack on your rifle, because cheek-weld may be poor with your set up. Your scope mounts are quite high, and you may find the stock doesn't naturally align your eye with the scope as a result. The simple solution is to add a stock ammo pack. If your trigger is stock standard, various options exist to improve it. A light, crisp trigger is a real aide to better accuracy. Enjoy your rifle!


Wow! 300 yards with a .22? That's about 200 yards more than I would care to shoot with a.22 rimfire. I have ordered a set of low scope rings that should just give me clearance between the scope and bolt handle. My other concern on this setup is the scope. It's not a rimfire scope so incorrect parallex will be a problem at 50 yards but I will see how I go. Thanks for your reply.
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Post by Gun nut. » 04 Mar 2019, 4:51 pm

Cooper wrote:What year is your cz452? Should be stamped on left hand side of barrel? Will be interested to see how it shoots. I have a CZ 452 classic (American) mine is 1999 model. CCI standard for plinking. SK rifle match is the best I've tried.

11 is stamped on left hand side of barrel. So 2011 I guess . This was the last year of the 452 production if I'm correct .
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Post by wildcard6 » 04 Mar 2019, 7:31 pm

On the question of scopes and parallax adjustment-capability, if you are going to use the rifle for HUNTING, stay with what you have. No rabbit, hare. or fox ever criticised my shooting due to parallax error - because they were already dead! Having a parallax-adjustable scope is great for TARGET shooting only. They are a pain in the butt for hunting. I don't think there is one scope that will truly do everything, so one approach I have used in the past was to have a target scope, set up in its own set of mounts, as well as a hunting scope [3-9X or straight 6X] also in its own set of mounts. Most of the time I left the target scope in place, and when I went hunting I just swapped scopes. A couple of shots to check/adjust zero and off you go. The trick to doing this is to set your front mount [both sets] right at the front edge of the action, so it's easy to locate where the scope has to be put each time you change. There are other ways of doing this, but things just get more complicated and I like to keep things as simple as I can. FWIW, I now have a 4-16X Vortex Diamondback Tactical scope on my CZ Varmint for all my target shooting needs, even out to 300 yards. I don't see much call for the hunting set up anymore, but I've still got them if I need them. A spare scope or two is always a good thing to have for just in case situations.
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Post by rookie » 09 Mar 2019, 10:09 pm

Got mine yesterday CZ 452 Varmint .22lr with a Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40 with Sportsmatch medium rings :mrgreen: - Very similar to yours GN - mine is also stamped with "11"

My first rifle and she’s a beauty :thumbsup:

Just need to do something about the factory trigger as she feels heavy and long creep before breaking ... any recommendations? Timney? https://timneytriggers.com/cz-452-trigger/ .. what pull weight do u guys look for?
Edit: I read this on the Timney viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2959#p186058 - might be too tricky for a novice

I’m also using G96 on the bolt to try and loosen her up a bit - do u guys use anything else? Or spray it on a particular part of the bolt?

I think later on I’d like to swap the rings for something that looks more traditional .. these look a little “tactikool” but they seem to be doing a fine job

Had a great morning shooting her and zeroing in the scope - being a novice and with the trigger, I was getting 20 cent groups with CCI Standard, SK Rifle Match and RWS Rifle Match (all the ammo I brought along :) ) - but definitely more consistent with the SK and RWS

hope ur having fun with yours GN :thumbsup:

Actually .. another question .. I had a couple of the CCI cartridges not eject after firing and stuck in the barrel .. i could pick it out easily enough but any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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Post by Gun nut. » 10 Mar 2019, 7:26 am

rookie wrote:Got mine yesterday CZ 452 Varmint .22lr with a Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40 with Sportsmatch medium rings :mrgreen: - Very similar to yours GN - mine is also stamped with "11"

My first rifle and she’s a beauty :thumbsup:

Just need to do something about the factory trigger as she feels heavy and long creep before breaking ... any recommendations? Timney? https://timneytriggers.com/cz-452-trigger/ .. what pull weight do u guys look for?
Edit: I read this on the Timney viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2959#p186058 - might be too tricky for a novice

I’m also using G96 on the bolt to try and loosen her up a bit - do u guys use anything else? Or spray it on a particular part of the bolt?

I think later on I’d like to swap the rings for something that looks more traditional .. these look a little “tactikool” but they seem to be doing a fine job

Had a great morning shooting her and zeroing in the scope - being a novice and with the trigger, I was getting 20 cent groups with CCI Standard, SK Rifle Match and RWS Rifle Match (all the ammo I brought along :) ) - but definitely more consistent with the SK and RWS

hope ur having fun with yours GN :thumbsup:

Actually .. another question .. I had a couple of the CCI cartridges not eject after firing and stuck in the barrel .. i could pick it out easily enough but any thoughts on this would be appreciated

Sounds like a good session you had rookie. Not sure what your problem with the bolt is? It should be well worn in on a 8 yo rifle. Did you get the freedom " rimfire " scope? It's parallax it set at 60yrds which is perfect for accurate shooting for a rimfire rifle.
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Post by rookie » 10 Mar 2019, 7:01 pm

Hey GN,

The .22lr and her twin (a .17hmr) were both trade-ins that were pretty much new / unfired. Kept in a safe for posterity .. only in Sydney I guess :lol: .. I bought her to shoot.

Unfortunately I didn’t get the .17hmr but was cheering when I came across them - was basically at the right place at the right time and put a deposit on her all when my licence was first approved.

Anyway, the bolt action is still pretty stiff, hence my question re what others might put on them to work them in. I actually got out to the range again today and the range officers put some of their special home-made Vaseline looking stuff on it (they use BRNO for “try and shoot” and hire guns and is the stuff they use on them) and it’s made progress.

The scope I got at Christmas during the sales and is a VX-freedom 3-9x40 - I did read somewhere it is 60 yard parallax. Getting better at it - today rather than worrying about where to put my cheek (something I do with shotguns) I just put my eye in the right spot and let the rest take care of itself. Much better consistency too..

It’s a great rifle, a heap of fun learning to shoot her and do her justice :D
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Post by ClaytonT88 » 11 Mar 2019, 11:54 am

Nice looking set up GN, keen to see how it shoots, only a couple more weeks until I pick up my T1X and see how that shoots too!
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Post by Diamond Jim » 12 Mar 2019, 12:50 am

Regarding trigger, a popular trigger kit when I bought my CZ452 varmint was something called the "Yo-Dave" kit - I think from a fellow in Canada. It was about $18 for 4 springs and 4 tubular shims. I bought it online and within a hour or so trying different combinations I had a trigger pull of a little over 1kg and zero creep. The latter is important because people who try my rifle always comment that it is a "hair trigger" - it isn't. They are just not used to having no gritty, long take-up. I can lift a 1.25L bottle full of water without the trigger releasing and I can pound the butt with a rubber mallet without it letting go.
If you keep the original spring you can restore to factory standard issue any time with a few minutes work.
I'm not sure if they are still available but if it is legal for you to work on your own rifle and you have basic handyman skills I highly recommend if you can find one.
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Post by rookie » 13 Mar 2019, 10:56 am

Thanks Diamond Jim .. I checked Youtube and found a lot of info on spring changes and a few different ways to approach creep / sear changes.

I also saw that it's been discussed a few times here on EG:
- viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6939
- viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2029
- viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7660

Seems to be a common change for CZ 452/455 - wonder why they don't make changes at the factory :unknown:

Anyway, as I'm new to it, I figure I gotta learn to contend with a heavy trigger .. I gotta work on it but I know she's very capable ..

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Just not sure if I do the trigger job whether it would easily prevent the first group from happening too often .. it's a fun challenge trying to get good results .. and I kinda like the idea that others (who have forgotten what it's like to shoot a factory trigger) might not be able to shoot her as well as I want to be able to :lol:

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Post by Flyer » 15 Mar 2019, 3:00 am

For ejection issues, read this: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/s ... p?t=567160

Bottom line, you may need to sharpen one of your extractor claws, like I needed to do on my old 452. Invariably, it's the one on the right, as in the photo below.

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Most 452s I've owned or used weren't particularly ammo fussy. Like others, SK Match was the most accurate. But I used 40gr Winchester Power Points for years, and they shot really well.
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Post by Flyer » 15 Mar 2019, 3:09 am

Yeah, I almost forgot. Yo-Dave or Lowey Products trigger kit is the go. Same kits, really. You won't know what it's like to have a nice trigger on your 452 until you shim the creep out of it and lighten the trigger spring a little.

I have a 453 Varmint in 17hmr with the set trigger, and that rifle shoots lights out. They're beautiful little rifles.

On the subject of parallax, I beg to differ. Any scope with parallax adjustment can be "set and forget" - you don't need to fiddle with it out in the field.

If you have it, you can use it. Or not

If you don't have it, you can't use it. And it's not much fun sitting behind a blurry scope shooting a rimfire at 25m. At least in my experience.
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