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Alfa Proj Carbine/hunter (revolving carbine)

Post by Dabi » 04 Apr 2019, 10:49 pm

Being a big fan of revolvers, I eventually found the only production revolving carbines on the market for 22lr here in Australia, the Alfa Proj carbines. Does anyone have any experiences with those? Especially the Hunter, or if you own both, how do they compare? The 16.5 inch carbine is a bit out of my budget, but I'm willing to pay for the premium if the hunter really isn't up to quality. Also it is quite a bit lighter being just over 2kg while the carbine in 16.5 inch is about 2.5kg. Which one shoulders better and is easier to carry around? And does the back and forward blast really effects your shooting much?
Any answers and opinions will be greatly appreciated :D :D
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Post by duncan61 » 04 Apr 2019, 10:59 pm

I was getting all excited till I saw this.Not Available for sale in NSW, ACT or WA
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Post by Crazy » 05 Apr 2019, 4:31 pm

Dabi wrote:Being a big fan of revolvers, I eventually found the only production revolving carbines on the market for 22lr here in Australia, the Alfa Proj carbines. Does anyone have any experiences with those? Especially the Hunter, or if you own both, how do they compare? The 16.5 inch carbine is a bit out of my budget, but I'm willing to pay for the premium if the hunter really isn't up to quality. Also it is quite a bit lighter being just over 2kg while the carbine in 16.5 inch is about 2.5kg. Which one shoulders better and is easier to carry around? And does the back and forward blast really effects your shooting much?
Any answers and opinions will be greatly appreciated :D :D

Rossi use to produce a revolving carbine in .44 mag and .410/45 long colt you see them floating around at gun shops, usedguns.com or ozgunsales.com.
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Post by Dabi » 05 Apr 2019, 9:17 pm

Crazy wrote:
Dabi wrote:Being a big fan of revolvers, I eventually found the only production revolving carbines on the market for 22lr here in Australia, the Alfa Proj carbines. Does anyone have any experiences with those? Especially the Hunter, or if you own both, how do they compare? The 16.5 inch carbine is a bit out of my budget, but I'm willing to pay for the premium if the hunter really isn't up to quality. Also it is quite a bit lighter being just over 2kg while the carbine in 16.5 inch is about 2.5kg. Which one shoulders better and is easier to carry around? And does the back and forward blast really effects your shooting much?
Any answers and opinions will be greatly appreciated :D :D

Rossi use to produce a revolving carbine in .44 mag and .410/45 long colt you see them floating around at gun shops, usedguns.com or ozgunsales.com.


yeah I actually ordered a rossi in 22 before refunding it; after hearing some of it's problems and it's poor quality control I'm planning to go for a Alfa instead.
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Post by Dabi » 05 Apr 2019, 9:44 pm

Crazy wrote:
Dabi wrote:Being a big fan of revolvers, I eventually found the only production revolving carbines on the market for 22lr here in Australia, the Alfa Proj carbines. Does anyone have any experiences with those? Especially the Hunter, or if you own both, how do they compare? The 16.5 inch carbine is a bit out of my budget, but I'm willing to pay for the premium if the hunter really isn't up to quality. Also it is quite a bit lighter being just over 2kg while the carbine in 16.5 inch is about 2.5kg. Which one shoulders better and is easier to carry around? And does the back and forward blast really effects your shooting much?
Any answers and opinions will be greatly appreciated :D :D

Rossi use to produce a revolving carbine in .44 mag and .410/45 long colt you see them floating around at gun shops, usedguns.com or ozgunsales.com.


Feels bad man, come to Vic and u can unleash all 9 shots of a mighty 22 in under 2 seconds like a semi auto it is ;)
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Post by Wombat » 05 Apr 2019, 10:56 pm

Try a Savage A22R - you may be surprised at how close it is to a semi, without the drawbacks of a revolving rifle.
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Post by Dabi » 05 Apr 2019, 11:03 pm

Wombat wrote:Try a Savage A22R - you may be surprised at how close it is to a semi, without the drawbacks of a revolving rifle.


I have tried it out, maybe you can shoot it fast but I think not as fast as a smooth pump action since you have an additional hand to operate the action. You might be able to lock the bolt with your grip hand on A22R but it'll affect your shooting stance, with trigger finger it's not that fast since the bolt release is heavy, might as well go for the T-bolt.
Unless you mod it to have the ergonomics of a Speedline or something :? Or put a slide in front of the release and make it into a mini pump action, that'll be really fast :)

edit: and we all know how fast you can pull the DA trigger if you practice
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Post by Crazy » 07 Apr 2019, 12:04 pm

Dabi wrote:
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Dabi wrote:Being a big fan of revolvers, I eventually found the only production revolving carbines on the market for 22lr here in Australia, the Alfa Proj carbines. Does anyone have any experiences with those? Especially the Hunter, or if you own both, how do they compare? The 16.5 inch carbine is a bit out of my budget, but I'm willing to pay for the premium if the hunter really isn't up to quality. Also it is quite a bit lighter being just over 2kg while the carbine in 16.5 inch is about 2.5kg. Which one shoulders better and is easier to carry around? And does the back and forward blast really effects your shooting much?
Any answers and opinions will be greatly appreciated :D :D

Rossi use to produce a revolving carbine in .44 mag and .410/45 long colt you see them floating around at gun shops, usedguns.com or ozgunsales.com.


yeah I actually ordered a rossi in 22 before refunding it; after hearing some of it's problems and it's poor quality control I'm planning to go for a Alfa instead.

Problem with the Alfa carbines is that they don't have a blast shield on the cylinder so if your not wearing long selves the gas is noticeable especially on the .357. The Rossi's do have a blast shield, so they both have their pros and cons.
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Post by Wombat » 07 Apr 2019, 6:46 pm

Dabi wrote:
Wombat wrote:Try a Savage A22R - you may be surprised at how close it is to a semi, without the drawbacks of a revolving rifle.


I have tried it out, maybe you can shoot it fast but I think not as fast as a smooth pump action since you have an additional hand to operate the action. You might be able to lock the bolt with your grip hand on A22R but it'll affect your shooting stance, with trigger finger it's not that fast since the bolt release is heavy, might as well go for the T-bolt.
Unless you mod it to have the ergonomics of a Speedline or something :? Or put a slide in front of the release and make it into a mini pump action, that'll be really fast :)

edit: and we all know how fast you can pull the DA trigger if you practice


Much faster than my Winchester 1906 or 62A and more accurate at the same time.The limited motion of the release vs a pump lets you stay on target. If you just want to make noise maybe you are right. With a 1906 there's no disconnect so just hold the trigger and keep pumping.
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Post by cracker » 12 Apr 2019, 8:59 pm

picked one up at a local gun shot in 22lr, felt really small which suits me being a shorter guy, think it would be alot of fun, trigger pull isnt terrible..very much just a revolver with a stock... which it is...
think most revolving carbins would be great fun if your mate had one, not sure id buy one... but for the right price 45 long colt/ 410 shotgun sure would be fun.
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Post by Dabi » 14 Apr 2019, 8:13 pm

cracker wrote:picked one up at a local gun shot in 22lr, felt really small which suits me being a shorter guy, think it would be alot of fun, trigger pull isnt terrible..very much just a revolver with a stock... which it is...
think most revolving carbins would be great fun if your mate had one, not sure id buy one... but for the right price 45 long colt/ 410 shotgun sure would be fun.

nice, how did the quality feel, and was it the hunter or carbine? I'm planning to order mine next week as my license goes through, still debating between the two. cheers!
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Post by mickb » 20 Apr 2019, 4:29 pm

Hi I had the 12" barrel version 22LR alfa carbine which is allowed in QLD. Sold it for financial reasons, wish I had kept it.

Thoughts on it. Its fit and finish is very nice, I also owned a 45colt rossi circuit judge many years ago and I'd put the alfa as better.

I found the HKS 9 shot speedloader made for Rossi will work in this gun, so you can do quick reloads. I was possibly one of the first to do it. I called the distributor and even mailed the manufacturer years back and no one knew if any worked. So I ordered some different 9 shot speedloaderss from brownells Australia and the HKS worked fine.Then I let the distributors know as well which they were grateful as its another selling point.

Regards it older competition. the rossi circuit judge in 22LR/22WMR - I didn't own one in this calibre but looked into them . They were good guns but the 22WMR option was a bit of a gimmick in my opinion as going off the chrony reading others did it was losing way too many fps from the gap for some reason. I think they were testing WMR loads at 1500fps or so... they weren't running much faster than 22LR stingers.

I did not get a chance to test accuracy in the Alfa as I was just blasting trees and boxes before I had to let it go. However the cylinder cycles very well. The trigger pull is heavy, however on single action( or double action, I can never remember which is which) the one you pre-cock the hammer anyway, it becomes light and easy to fire. Even with the double( action?) on rapid you can fire all in under 2.5seconds.

The gun can also be shot pistol style, aka hands outstretched and its quite manageable like this with the 12" barrel, like a big silhouette gun, but obviously the 16.5" I doubt it.

I ended up getting the gunstore to put a rail and red dot on it before I sold it and I apologise for not remembering the brands as I had a bit going on in my life at the time.

The downsides.

The alfa is noisy. No blast shield like the Rossi. And while I didnt notice any dramas from gas cutting to my supporting hand, you dont want to fire this without earmuffs! Even though 22LR you will get some gas and noise coming back, its almost like a 22LR handgun. Obviously the 12" barrel didnt; help but there is a review on youtube of some bloke comparing the longer 16.5" version with the Rossi circuirt judge in 22Lr and he remarks the alfa is much noisier. The issue with revolver carbines is unlike a handgun where you are holding the gun at arms length, with a stocked revolver the cylinder gap is now much closer to your face, only a few inches from your ears. This is actually why I sold my 45 colt circuit judge, even with earplugs my ears would always be ringing after shoots. The 22LR obviously not as bad as a centrefire... but worth mentioning if you intend to use this without plugs...

I am strongly considering picking another up for myself, maybe in the 16.5". I'd love to see if I can get a blast shield like the rossi made for it by some savvy custom gunsmith.

All in all I give it quality marks over the rossi having owned both, anecdotally( only from the reviews I researched) better accuracy to the alfa, noise levels the alfa loses badly( lol). General appearance- well I hate synthetic stocks and skeleton grips so the alfa won for me there. It is really an atrractive gun in the flesh. People take a minute to work out just what they are looking at, and stocked revolvers aren't for all tastes, but it is quite pretty for lack of a better word
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Post by Dabi » 20 Apr 2019, 7:18 pm

mickb wrote:Hi I had the 12" barrel version 22LR alfa carbine which is allowed in QLD. Sold it for financial reasons, wish I had kept it.

Thoughts on it. Its fit and finish is very nice, I also owned a 45colt rossi circuit judge many years ago and I'd put the alfa as better.

I found the HKS 9 shot speedloader made for Rossi will work in this gun, so you can do quick reloads. I was possibly one of the first to do it. I called the distributor and even mailed the manufacturer years back and no one knew if any worked. So I ordered some different 9 shot speedloaderss from brownells Australia and the HKS worked fine.Then I let the distributors know as well which they were grateful as its another selling point.

Regards it older competition. the rossi circuit judge in 22LR/22WMR - I didn't own one in this calibre but looked into them . They were good guns but the 22WMR option was a bit of a gimmick in my opinion as going off the chrony reading others did it was losing way too many fps from the gap for some reason. I think they were testing WMR loads at 1500fps or so... they weren't running much faster than 22LR stingers.

I did not get a chance to test accuracy in the Alfa as I was just blasting trees and boxes before I had to let it go. However the cylinder cycles very well. The trigger pull is heavy, however on single action( or double action, I can never remember which is which) the one you pre-cock the hammer anyway, it becomes light and easy to fire. Even with the double( action?) on rapid you can fire all in under 2.5seconds.

The gun can also be shot pistol style, aka hands outstretched and its quite manageable like this with the 12" barrel, like a big silhouette gun, but obviously the 16.5" I doubt it.

I ended up getting the gunstore to put a rail and red dot on it before I sold it and I apologise for not remembering the brands as I had a bit going on in my life at the time.

The downsides.

The alfa is noisy. No blast shield like the Rossi. And while I didnt notice any dramas from gas cutting to my supporting hand, you dont want to fire this without earmuffs! Even though 22LR you will get some gas and noise coming back, its almost like a 22LR handgun. Obviously the 12" barrel didnt; help but there is a review on youtube of some bloke comparing the longer 16.5" version with the Rossi circuirt judge in 22Lr and he remarks the alfa is much noisier. The issue with revolver carbines is unlike a handgun where you are holding the gun at arms length, with a stocked revolver the cylinder gap is now much closer to your face, only a few inches from your ears. This is actually why I sold my 45 colt circuit judge, even with earplugs my ears would always be ringing after shoots. The 22LR obviously not as bad as a centrefire... but worth mentioning if you intend to use this without plugs...

I am strongly considering picking another up for myself, maybe in the 16.5". I'd love to see if I can get a blast shield like the rossi made for it by some savvy custom gunsmith.

All in all I give it quality marks over the rossi having owned both, anecdotally( only from the reviews I researched) better accuracy to the alfa, noise levels the alfa loses badly( lol). General appearance- well I hate synthetic stocks and skeleton grips so the alfa won for me there. It is really an atrractive gun in the flesh. People take a minute to work out just what they are looking at, and stocked revolvers aren't for all tastes, but it is quite pretty for lack of a better word


Thanks mickb! loved the review
I'm set to get the 16.5 inch one next week. Vic doesn't allow the 12 inch one but I personally prefer the longer one as it looks more aesthetic. I'm still sorta debating between the carbine and the 20 inch hunter which I think has a alloy frame compared to the steel frame on the carbine. It's a lot more budget friendly but from the images it doesn't appear as well made and seem to be based off the cheaper 22lr model 241 for the alfa revolvers.
I think it'll make a pretty good little 'tactical' carbine with a hint of steampunk, good rapid fire and even better after breaking in and lubing. I'm thinking of putting a red dot with a vertical grip in the front of it just for s**ts and giggles, probably the closest thing we'll get to a semi auto. Can't wait to get my hands on it ;)
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Post by mickb » 20 Apr 2019, 10:26 pm

You will have some fun mate, while no .308, 9 x CCI stingers in 2 seconds has some uses ;) I orginally got my 12" as a light handy backup/finisher to my crossbow for pigs and deerr.

I never saw the 20" in the flesh but I'd personally go for 16.5" only as 22LR having only 1-2 grains of powder in the case, develops almost all its velocity within 16" of barrel , though you will lose a bit of velocity from the cylinder gap.

I wished I would have studied mine more when I had my hands on it especially regarding how a blast guard might go. When you get yours if you have an idea feel free to let me know.
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Post by Dabi » 21 Apr 2019, 8:39 pm

mickb wrote:You will have some fun mate, while no .308, 9 x CCI stingers in 2 seconds has some uses ;) I orginally got my 12" as a light handy backup/finisher to my crossbow for pigs and deerr.

I never saw the 20" in the flesh but I'd personally go for 16.5" only as 22LR having only 1-2 grains of powder in the case, develops almost all its velocity within 16" of barrel , though you will lose a bit of velocity from the cylinder gap.

I wished I would have studied mine more when I had my hands on it especially regarding how a blast guard might go. When you get yours if you have an idea feel free to let me know.


Yeah tbh, I was considering making a blast shield with a 3d printer or something but that will totally ruin the aesthetics so I decided against it. That's why I'll go with the 22lr since anything bigger might accidentally take a chunk off my forearm some day :?
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Post by mickb » 21 Apr 2019, 10:19 pm

no probs. Btw I made a longer post regarding some speed tests I did with the gun and also some research on the speed of other 22LR action types including speed loaders for tube fed pumps and lever actions. I took it down as I didn't want some anti using it as an angle to complain about them. If anyone wants to PM me feel free.
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Post by mickb » 22 Apr 2019, 2:29 pm

Wombat wrote:Try a Savage A22R - you may be surprised at how close it is to a semi, without the drawbacks of a revolving rifle.


I tried them and found a guy with footage on his phone who had done a bit of practice and can say they aren't very close to a semi. Savage did a pretty good job of marketing the 'almost semi-auto vibe" of them whilst ensuring they are certainly not. Revolver at least twice as fast, gas operated semi even faster.
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Post by Wombat » 22 Apr 2019, 5:02 pm

The Savage is a blowback semi with a bolt hold open. The speed is dependent on your coordination between release and trigger, some skill is admittedly required. After a couple of magazines I was getting ten shot 50 meter groups around playing card size just as fast as I could pre 96.
Should I forget my hands on experience and alter my comment in line with "wot some bloke had on his phone"? FFS.
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Post by cracker » 22 Apr 2019, 6:14 pm

Wombat wrote:The Savage is a blowback semi with a bolt hold open. The speed is dependent on your coordination between release and trigger, some skill is admittedly required. After a couple of magazines I was getting ten shot 50 meter groups around playing card size just as fast as I could pre 96.
Should I forget my hands on experience and alter my comment in line with "wot some bloke had on his phone"? FFS.

only thing i can get close to a semi speedwise is a browning trombone off the hip... completely pointless other then smiles value
dont get too hung up on how fast, doesnt really matter
even mag dumping a semi auto 22lr kinda just results in a shotgun pattern with me anyway
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Post by mickb » 22 Apr 2019, 8:36 pm

Wombat wrote:The Savage is a blowback semi with a bolt hold open. The speed is dependent on your coordination between release and trigger, some skill is admittedly required.


The speed of the savage is always limited by needing finger repositioning in between shots which is why its twice as slow as revolvers and probably 3x slower than gas operated semi-autos. I have used all three, go back and read the above posts.


After a couple of magazines I was getting ten shot 50 meter groups around playing card size just as fast as I could pre 96.


I shoot 10/22 post 96. Not all of us were stuck with Cat AB in Australia bud. Being able to shoot a lot of rounds quickly is useful for some people and I dont see any workers choosing an "interrupted action savage" when they can have the real deal, just because some fella reckons its as good for shooting cards....

Should I forget my hands on experience and alter my comment in line with "wot some bloke had on his phone"? FFS.


No you should just relax when folks quote you. No one is claiming semi-autos are the best action or they even outshoot other actions at certain ranges.
My point was just about "action speed" thats all. And the savage A22 is not close to semi-auto for a lot of the ways these things can be used.
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Post by mickb » 22 Apr 2019, 9:24 pm

cracker wrote:
Wombat wrote:The Savage is a blowback semi with a bolt hold open. The speed is dependent on your coordination between release and trigger, some skill is admittedly required. After a couple of magazines I was getting ten shot 50 meter groups around playing card size just as fast as I could pre 96.
Should I forget my hands on experience and alter my comment in line with "wot some bloke had on his phone"? FFS.

only thing i can get close to a semi speedwise is a browning trombone off the hip... completely pointless other then smiles value
dont get too hung up on how fast, doesnt really matter
even mag dumping a semi auto 22lr kinda just results in a shotgun pattern with me anyway


The revolver gets closest to gas operated semi autos and is still in a relatively stable firing position, The heaviness of the double action trigger aka the fact your finger is doing all the work in cycling the action means they do run slower than 10/22 etc.

The thingis Austalia has an entire generation now who never had a chance to use S/A and a couple of older generations forgetting just how much they wished they still had them ;)

No one claims they will outshoot other actions at various ranges. The higher the degree of accuracy or mutliplicity of targets at range, the more the rigid slower actions have a chance to catch up as you can work them while you are re-acquiring. Thats beginner obvious.

But the 10/22 isn't one of the most popular 22's ever made because it has no purpose. And all the other myriad S/A 22LR would not exist if they didn't do somethings much better than any other actions in the calibre. And Cat C workers would be handing their guns in or not bothering with all the BS of getting Cat C if something else did the same job. Thats also beginner obvious.

Personally I think having used a lot of them, the revolver comes close but I started deleting my own posts on its speed as it can be fodder or antis or upset people from states who can't have them. I also dont want to go into just what you can with a semi-auto 22LR in close for the same reasons and also because it would upset all the safety concious millenials. You can fire a load of buckshot and be satsfied if half the pellets pattern on an animal and who knows or care if the rest wound the one next to it, but you direct 4-5 rounds of 22LR into one animal rapid fire it suddenly becomes unethical. : :D

But again no point ruining my own hobby or an entire weapon category just for purpose of sounding cool on a web forum. Im bowing out. Good luck to the OP hope you review it if you get a chance. :)
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Post by Wombat » 22 Apr 2019, 9:34 pm

Most people do not have a cat C license, but do have two hands and ten digits. Your shooting hand trigger finger is not required to operate the release.
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Post by mickb » 22 Apr 2019, 9:54 pm

Wombat wrote:Most people do not have a cat C license, but do have two hands and ten digits. Your shooting hand trigger finger is not required to operate the release.


Pulling the two objects with the master hand is heavy and slow mate. Much heavier than the D/A of the revolver and still be slower by a good margin. btw have you actually fired the gun the OP is asking about?
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Post by Wombat » 22 Apr 2019, 9:55 pm

"The revolver gets closest to gas operated semi autos and is still in a relatively stable firing position, The heaviness of the double action trigger aka the fact your finger is doing all the work in cycling the action means they do run slower than 10/22 etc."
So. What are the gas operated .22's? A 10/22 is a blowback semiauto. Even the AR15 conversions for .22lr are blowback.
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Post by Wombat » 22 Apr 2019, 9:58 pm

mickb wrote:
Wombat wrote:Most people do not have a cat C license, but do have two hands and ten digits. Your shooting hand trigger finger is not required to operate the release.


Pulling the two objects with the master hand is heavy and slow mate. Have you actually fired the gun the OP is asking about?


You seem confused. The Bolt release on the Savage does not need to be operated by your trigger finger, or indeed your dominant hand is the point I was trying to convey.
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Post by mickb » 22 Apr 2019, 10:11 pm

Wombat wrote:"The revolver gets closest to gas operated semi autos and is still in a relatively stable firing position, The heaviness of the double action trigger aka the fact your finger is doing all the work in cycling the action means they do run slower than 10/22 etc."
So. What are the gas operated .22's? A 10/22 is a blowback semiauto. Even the AR15 conversions for .22lr are blowback.


I mean the obvious, aka the activity of gas as opposed to mechanical operation. "Blowback is a system of operation for self-loading firearms that obtains energy from the motion ... The blowback principle may be considered a simplified form of gas operation" :lol:

Will we be down to battling typos next, or do you intend to get back to the topic at some point. The Alfa carbine revolver.
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Post by mickb » 22 Apr 2019, 10:26 pm

Wombat wrote:
mickb wrote:
Wombat wrote:Most people do not have a cat C license, but do have two hands and ten digits. Your shooting hand trigger finger is not required to operate the release.


Pulling the two objects with the master hand is heavy and slow mate. Have you actually fired the gun the OP is asking about?


You seem confused. The Bolt release on the Savage does not need to be operated by your trigger finger, or indeed your dominant hand is the point I was trying to convey.


I am highly confused mate anyone thinks whatever they can do with an extra release makes the operation anywhere close to the speed and ease of operation than the semi-auto it was butchered from.

But feel free to post a vid or source one from youtube showing it at speed.
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Post by Dabi » 22 Apr 2019, 10:31 pm

Wombat wrote:
mickb wrote:
Wombat wrote:Most people do not have a cat C license, but do have two hands and ten digits. Your shooting hand trigger finger is not required to operate the release.


Pulling the two objects with the master hand is heavy and slow mate. Have you actually fired the gun the OP is asking about?


You seem confused. The Bolt release on the Savage does not need to be operated by your trigger finger, or indeed your dominant hand is the point I was trying to convey.


I think what mickb meant is that the A22R cannot be operated with an action of a single finger, thus losing speed. The fact that you need two hands operating the action also increases the inaccuracy as you no longer have a firm grip, especially if you try to shoot it offhand. I have also tried cycling the gun with two hands in person and the heavy release lever wobbles my aim a bit, maybe with some practice I'll get quicker and steadier but with the same effort you can shoot a double action revolver much more smoothly.
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Re: Alfa Proj Carbine/hunter (revolving carbine)

Post by Dabi » 22 Apr 2019, 10:33 pm

Not to say that it isn't potentially is a more accurate gun with only 1 chamber instead of 9.
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Re: Alfa Proj Carbine/hunter (revolving carbine)

Post by Wombat » 22 Apr 2019, 10:34 pm

Ok. No. I'm not going to interact any further with a troll. Anyone who owns or has owned (or even used) a 10/22 would not be calling it gas operated.
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