Flyers are they a real thing?

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Re: Flyers are they a real thing?

Post by TassieTiger » 21 May 2020, 11:49 am

If you aim to shoot 5 GR - and put the first 3 in the same hole, then shooting the other two won’t really prove anything ? But not shooting them - takes away that pressure / anomaly - which is the shooter. ?

I’ve been load testing with friends - they’ll have 6 x 3 or 6 x 5 loads ready for testing, the very first 3 shots they shoot prints a tiny clover leaf...they are done. They will pull the rest of the bullets back at home - they have accomplished what they set out to do...
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Re: Flyers are they a real thing?

Post by Gamerancher » 21 May 2020, 7:13 pm

All fine and good Tassie mate, but...., the conversation is about 'ol mate having a "flyer" on every 5th shot.
If the shooter is the problem, isn't practising to overcome that problem going to be more productive than calling it quits before that point is reached?
Another thing to contemplate, is that 3 shot clover leaf repeatable or was it just a "chance" group?
Statistically, the more you shoot, the more accurate the result. A sample size of 3 is less indicative than a sample size of 300. Not suggesting anyone needs to go out and do that, just sayin'.
Just trying to help him out, not criticise him.
Personally, the competitions that I shoot are shot in groups of 5,10 and 15, so I do need to know that I can rely on two things:
1. Me to be able to do it and
2. that my rifle/load will do it.
My load testing and practice is usually 10 shot groups FWIW. :drinks:
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Re: Flyers are they a real thing?

Post by TheFirearmEnthusiast » 24 May 2020, 3:41 pm

I went to the range again yesterday
(Trying to work on my "flyers")

With the same conditions again
(50metres away)
(Off a bench)
(No rear rest)

I shot 6x groups yesterday
(5x shots per group again)

And here are my results;
0.6"
0.7"
0.7"
0.7"
0.8"
1.0"

In these 6x groups
I've only had 1x flyer this time

Not too bad

I'll see how I go next time I go again

I hate flyers lol
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Re: Flyers are they a real thing?

Post by Gamerancher » 27 May 2020, 9:44 am

Looks like you may be starting to control them, funny that. ;)
Since you are shooting a .22 rimfire, once you get control of the 5 shot groups, challenge yourself and have a crack at 10 shot groups or go to longer distances if available. It's all about honing your skills, not the rifles. :drinks:
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