AbyssRider wrote:hi all. looking at getting my first .22LR rifle. couldn't really make up my mind on which model after window shopping for a while...
so far the finalists are:
- CZ 457 American Wood (no barrel length description on the website)
- Ruger American 18'' threaded
- Savage Mark II 16.5''
Savage is the cheapest, like 50% of what CZ costs. im in WA so of course the final purchase depends on whether any of this is a cat A.
anybody who has used any of the above brands? not hunting and it will be used mostly on the ranges. thanks a lot.
AbyssRider wrote:thanks guys for the great advice. i do have a property letter so technically i can go hunting...work hours is the only (and a rather large) constraint for me. so usually speaking going to a range suits me better.
any of you from the Perth area? so far i have only been attending the Belmont ranges for practice. i did see the flyer about rifle matches at their place...just dont know where exactly the other ranges are located.
Vince24 wrote:Good choice.
"Lux" or "American"?
The CZ 452s typically love the SK 22LR ammo, although always worth testing a bunch of different brands and see what that specific rifle likes.
Accuracy is probably as good as the 457, the only bad side being that the original trigger of a 452 is not adjustable and is a bit heavy for the taste of some demanding shooters. It never bothered me though.
Vince24 wrote:Good choice.
"Lux" or "American"?
The CZ 452s typically love the SK 22LR ammo, although always worth testing a bunch of different brands and see what that specific rifle likes.
Accuracy is probably as good as the 457, the only bad side being that the original trigger of a 452 is not adjustable and is a bit heavy for the taste of some demanding shooters. It never bothered me though.
Diamond Jim wrote:Vince24 wrote:Good choice.
"Lux" or "American"?
You will enjoy that rifle.
AbyssRider wrote:yeah...really looking forward to trying it out. the application takes ages.
this is the part of WA gun laws i dont get - why would you want people to wait again to add an extra firearm of the same cat? i get the cooling off period and stuff for first time shooters and such requirement if you are getting a different cat gun, not if they are in the same cat.
this is even more confusing now they have banned many high-powered firearms.
bladeracer wrote:AbyssRider wrote: Police know that, that's why they make up their own "laws".
AbyssRider wrote:bladeracer wrote:AbyssRider wrote: Police know that, that's why they make up their own "laws".
how so?
and BTW it is so easy to lose the firearm licence. the range master told me the police will immediately cancel the licence if they found ammo and gun in the same bag, doesn't really matter how many...
bladeracer wrote:AbyssRider wrote:bladeracer wrote:AbyssRider wrote: Police know that, that's why they make up their own "laws".
how so?
and BTW it is so easy to lose the firearm licence. the range master told me the police will immediately cancel the licence if they found ammo and gun in the same bag, doesn't really matter how many...
Like requiring huge property sizes for shooting on, there is no law that requires this, just their own policy. And banning a whole host of chamberings for no legitimate reason, then going out themselves and using a firearm illegally for a press presentation.
Yes, Police in all states will come down very hard on you if they find you storing or transporting a firearm with ammunition. In WA you also have to store your ammunition, primers and bullets in another gun safe (though I think you can still use the bolt box within a safe if it's big enough). In all states ammunition must be secured but everywhere else we just lock it in plastic ammo crates. And in WA you can't be in possession of ammunition or bullets for a firearm that is not specifically listed on your licence - all other states allow us to possess ammo for any firearm that we are licenced to use. And you can't loan or borrow firearms in WA, in all other states we can.
safeshot wrote:"Well we used to call them BRNO's." Today they are CZ and are a damn accurate rifle and it is one case definitely where you get what you pay for.
The scope. we are swamped for choice in scopes but as a old mate of mine said scope and rifles is like breeding horses, 'you put the best on top.'
He had a rule of thumb in this matter where you spend on a scope at least what you paid for the rifle.
Happy (rifle) hunting.