on_one_wheel wrote:Never seen that before
The government must be tampering with our ammunition, dam mind controlling chem trails.
It's interesting to see that corkscrew flight path though
on_one_wheel wrote:Never seen that before
The government must be tampering with our ammunition, dam mind controlling chem trails.
It's interesting to see that corkscrew flight path though
niteowl wrote:.22.LR ??????
in2anity wrote:I went through a phase of capturing vapor trails. It's novel, but audiences tire of it quickly. https://youtu.be/fKNpA4xASBA
Slow windspeed is required, no more that 15km/h (less is better). High humidity leaves the biggest "wake" through the air.
In OP video, pretty sure air temperature must be quite cold with high humidity, and about 15km/h full value from what I can tell. The steam looks to be from the temperature difference just as the hot pill leaves the barrel.
niteowl wrote:Have a look at his ammo box !
niteowl wrote:Yeh OK. Nothing to do with the image posted ??
straightshooter wrote:Niteowl
Good observation on both counts.
Chances are that the shooter in the picture is using tracer projectiles.
However I still have trouble abandoning the thought that the corkscrew chemtrail is due to the corkscrew fluting on the barrel.
Although if I were to lose my jester's cap I might be able to offer a sound physics based explanation for the corkscrew chemtrail. But not tonight.
Lazarus wrote:straightshooter wrote:Niteowl
Good observation on both counts.
Chances are that the shooter in the picture is using tracer projectiles.
However I still have trouble abandoning the thought that the corkscrew chemtrail is due to the corkscrew fluting on the barrel.
Although if I were to lose my jester's cap I might be able to offer a sound physics based explanation for the corkscrew chemtrail. But not tonight.
Wrong
Again
https://youtu.be/jRzvQ-3TukQ?si=3ircU6FmVIaQjwgh
Oldbloke wrote:contrail created from vortices
Most likely high humidity and very cold weather
Lazarus wrote:Oldbloke wrote:contrail created from vortices
Most likely high humidity and very cold weather
Oh, good onya OB, you stole my bloody thunder
It's the same effect on wingtip contrails.
straightshooter wrote:Lazarus wrote:straightshooter wrote:Niteowl
Good observation on both counts.
Chances are that the shooter in the picture is using tracer projectiles.
However I still have trouble abandoning the thought that the corkscrew chemtrail is due to the corkscrew fluting on the barrel.
Although if I were to lose my jester's cap I might be able to offer a sound physics based explanation for the corkscrew chemtrail. But not tonight.
Wrong
Again
https://youtu.be/jRzvQ-3TukQ?si=3ircU6FmVIaQjwgh
I admit my comment referred to the picture and was a little flippant but you need something more substantial in your knowledge and experience arsenal than regurgitated bare youtube clips, devoid of any personal input as evidence of any understanding of their content, to assert somebody is wrong.
By the look of things you have never shot a tracer projectile nor personally experienced any of the phenomena being discussed so don't assume others commenting in the discussion have similar limitations.
Just how much breadth of shooting experience do you actually have?
If it helps with your self esteem then you can purport to have WON this discussion as well.
Lazarus wrote:
Mate you're on a " can't get anything right" roll, aren't you
I hosed a fukctonne of tracers out of my pig in the 1970s sonny, I know what they look like.
As to not having experienced the phenomenon of vapour trails from bullets why in your eminent opinion, do you think I asked the original question?
How do you fit all that wrong into one head?
deye243 wrote:You will struggle to see it but this is one of my trails in 223 at 500y
https://youtube.com/shorts/jcqKiUJnysM? ... hSQPz2GWkA
Starts at about 10 o'clock
straightshooter wrote:Peterwho and deye243
They are not vapour trails.
Believe it or not Lazarus got it right earlier in the thread when he explained it was due to the shockwave of the supersonic projectile.
That shockwave induces a moving transient localised change in the refractive index of the air and that is what one sees through an appropriately set up telescope or video camera. It is not the same as but at the same time not unlike the refractive changes in the air that underlie mirage.
Anybody with a long association with fullbore shooting will be very familiar with watching the shockwave to help a shooter get on target.
Unfortunately atmospheric conditions and the position of the sun have to be just right to see the shockwave and that's not always the case.
The corkscrew Peterwho refers to is not so. It is a composite ballistic arc describing the projectile's path due to drop due to gravity and drift due to wind and a couple of other phenomena we needn't bother with.
straightshooter wrote:Lazarus wrote:
Mate you're on a " can't get anything right" roll, aren't you
I hosed a fukctonne of tracers out of my pig in the 1970s sonny, I know what they look like.
As to not having experienced the phenomenon of vapour trails from bullets why in your eminent opinion, do you think I asked the original question?
How do you fit all that wrong into one head?
Lamest trash talk I have ever had hurled at me.
Did you compose it yourself or did you get it from a youtube like most of your other material?
on_one_wheel wrote:Never seen that before
The government must be tampering with our ammunition, dam mind controlling chem trails.
It's interesting to see that corkscrew flight path though