Scope for 22LR

[bigfellascott]

Anyone wanting some cheap scopes let me know, I have some that my wives father has sent to us for sale. Might have a few things coming soon.

Let us know when you get em and what they are.

[fawksel]

Anyone wanting some cheap scopes let me know, I have some that my wives father has sent to us for sale. Might have a few things coming soon.

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[David Brown]

Anyone wanting some cheap scopes let me know, I have some that my wives father has sent to us for sale. Might have a few things coming soon.

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no kidding….

When i get around to it.

[GLS_1956]

I have several Redfield scopes, all are good.

[sandgroperbill]

One thing i should probably also mention for those that are interested.

The redfield scope isn't at all bothered by recoil. The reticle doesn't shift, even when faced by severe recoil. If a double charged 180gr .30-06 round on a 6.25lb rifle (this was a factory round from a well known and reliable manufacturer that broke my sling swivel while the sling was just hanging loose) doesn't shift the reticle or damage the scope, pretty much nothing will.
Clear glass and it works well right up to dark. They are not fancy, don't have all the bells and whistles of some, but they work and work well and are reliable. On my experiences with them, i would happily recommend them.

[bigfellascott]

One thing i should probably also mention for those that are interested.

The redfield scope isn't at all bothered by recoil. The reticle doesn't shift, even when faced by severe recoil. If a double charged 180gr .30-06 round on a 6.25lb rifle (this was a factory round from a well known and reliable manufacturer that broke my sling swivel while the sling was just hanging loose) doesn't shift the reticle or damage the scope, pretty much nothing will.
Clear glass and it works well right up to dark. They are not fancy, don't have all the bells and whistles of some, but they work and work well and are reliable. On my experiences with them, i would happily recommend them.

That's pretty much how I see em too mate, no bells and whistles no fuss and just work and work well for the $$$ paid for em, you can pay $1000's more but not get the corresponding performance gains for the $$$ spent.

For a set and forget type scope they work fine as do the Nikons that I also use and own. I was just out testing the Redfield on a street sign at around 340m or so away and could read the name on the sign so plenty clear enough for my needs (bunnies in this case) checked it out under street lights the other night and it was fine, good as anything else I own, (Leupold, Zeiss, Nikon, Jap Tasco, Philippines Tasco, Redfield) they all work and do the jobs I bought em to do (hunting/spotlighting).

[Yelp]

If a double charged 180gr .30-06 round on a 6.25lb rifle (this was a factory round from a well known and reliable manufacturer that broke my sling swivel while the sling was just hanging loose) doesn't shift the reticle or damage the scope, pretty much nothing will.

What sort of shape was the barrel in after that?

[sandgroperbill]

That was my first thought, too. Being .30-06, I doubt it would have been able to truly hold a full double charge, but would have been close.
After that round, i packed up, went home and checked the barrel and chamber. Fortunately, everything was fine.
The sling swivel was broken, though. Its one of those quick detach ones that comes sewn into the sling, so replaced my sling.
Its also the only time i've ever had scope eye...

[bigfellascott]

how did you know was a double charge?

[sandgroperbill]

I'd been shooting rounds through it for a few hours. I was halfway through this particular box of ammo, lifted it to my shoulder and pulled the trigger. Trust me. I knew.
My sling was just hanging loose, it broke the swivel. The recoil also pushed the bipod into my hand, fortunately only a small cut. Wound up with a small cut just above my eye. Probably would have been worse had i not been wearing my glasses.

[bigfellascott]

How do you reckon they got the double charge in the case? I can't see how they could of to be honest, I wonder if it was the wrong weight projectile?

[sandgroperbill]

That was my first thought, too. Being .30-06, I doubt it would have been able to truly hold a full double charge, but would have been close.

As I said earlier, it wouldn't have fully held a double charge, but it would have been overcharged and compressed, i'd reckon, so close enough.
Definitely enough to be noticeable, I can tell you that much. After all is said and done, the only lasting damage was to the sling (and i flinched the next few times firing it, but i'm not flinching anymore. Oh, and i still have the rest of that box of ammo. Haven't trusted it enough to fire it...).

[bigfellascott]

You should pull the projies and weigh the charges and see if there are any that are overcharged? Discard the powder on the lawn (water in it makes good fertilizer) then reload the cases, that's what I'd be doing if it was me.

[sandgroperbill]

Tbh that's exactly what i was going to do with them.
I'm in no hurry and have a couple of boxes of 165gr nosler bts there as well, so it'll be a while before i pull them and put in my own powder. It was pretty much right in the middle of the box, so only 9 or ten rounds left (it's been a while, i forget exactly how many are left) so it'll be a job for a rainy day when i'm bored.

[bigfellascott]

Tbh that's exactly what i was going to do with them.
I'm in no hurry and have a couple of boxes of 165gr nosler bts there as well, so it'll be a while before i pull them and put in my own powder. It was pretty much right in the middle of the box, so only 9 or ten rounds left (it's been a while, i forget exactly how many are left) so it'll be a job for a rainy day when i'm bored.

It will be interesting to see if you find any issues with the powder charge and or Projie weights? would have put the wind up you alright.

[chrispy88]

Scott,

You'll have to let me know your thoughts. I've been thinking for a while I need to get a 'hunting' .22 and stop wrecking my Savage MkII BTVS. It's too heavy to lug around all night and having been fixing a lot of bunnies lately, so the poor stock is showing it.

I was thinking the cheap model CZ and maybe a Redfield, and like the idea of the 50mm objective, as I do most of my hunting at night.

I dare not tell Lindsay, he turns his nose up at my Leupolds!

[bigfellascott]

Scott,

You'll have to let me know your thoughts. I've been thinking for a while I need to get a 'hunting' .22 and stop wrecking my Savage MkII BTVS. It's too heavy to lug around all night and having been fixing a lot of bunnies lately, so the poor stock is showing it.

I was thinking the cheap model CZ and maybe a Redfield, and like the idea of the 50mm objective, as I do most of my hunting at night.

I dare not tell Lindsay, he turns his nose up at my Leupolds!

I like my little Brno Mod 2 for a walkaround rifle, she's lite and plenty accurate enough for bunnies - I'd say anything lite is what you want if you are doing a lot of walking around shooting type thing.

I don't mind some of the Leupolds myself, my mate had one on his Ansultz 22 (can't remember the model) but I think it had a 50mm objective and it was very good under the light (slightly brighter than the Nikon from memory) but not much in it and the Nikon was better in the daylight when it came to contrast etc for whatever reason.

I guess find something in your price range and go look at a few and see what works for ya mate.

[Usurper]

I don't mind some of the Leupolds myself, my mate had one on his Ansultz 22 (can't remember the model) but I think it had a 50mm objective and it was very good under the light (slightly brighter than the Nikon from memory) but not much in it and the Nikon was better in the daylight when it came to contrast etc for whatever reason.

For a walk about their VX1 are perfect and aren't expensive.

[bigfellascott]

I don't mind some of the Leupolds myself, my mate had one on his Ansultz 22 (can't remember the model) but I think it had a 50mm objective and it was very good under the light (slightly brighter than the Nikon from memory) but not much in it and the Nikon was better in the daylight when it came to contrast etc for whatever reason.

For a walk about their VX1 are perfect and aren't expensive.

Yep good enough to do the job no worries at all, I really don't see the sense in spending huge $$ on a scope for a 22, it just isn't warranted IMO, its like you are shooting long range where good glass shines etc, no need for fiddling with dials to take long shots, all you need is something simple that is reliable and clear under normal hunting type conditions and I'd reckon the large majority reasonably priced scopes would fit that bill fine.

[brett1868]

You should pull the projies and weigh the charges and see if there are any that are overcharged? Discard the powder on the lawn (water in it makes good fertilizer) then reload the cases, that's what I'd be doing if it was me.

Pouring powder over the lawn is a waste of an opportunity for some fun . Had to dispose of around a pound of powder a couple months back so the cousin, his son and I poured it down a bull ants nest in several of the holes. Left a nice little powder trail to light then stood back and admired the little volcanoes complete with ants on fire spewing out the top like little fireballs. I'll see if I can upload the video tonight or tomorrow and post a link. Have been following the thread on here about home made forges cause I want to pour molten aluminium into one of these ants nest then dig it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jHGQRvAts

[North East]

Great video

[bigfellascott]

You should pull the projies and weigh the charges and see if there are any that are overcharged? Discard the powder on the lawn (water in it makes good fertilizer) then reload the cases, that's what I'd be doing if it was me.

Pouring powder over the lawn is a waste of an opportunity for some fun . Had to dispose of around a pound of powder a couple months back so the cousin, his son and I poured it down a bull ants nest in several of the holes. Left a nice little powder trail to light then stood back and admired the little volcanoes complete with ants on fire spewing out the top like little fireballs. I'll see if I can upload the video tonight or tomorrow and post a link. Have been following the thread on here about home made forges cause I want to pour molten aluminium into one of these ants nest then dig it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jHGQRvAts

sounds like fun to me!

[Hercl]

How do you reckon they got the double charge in the case? I can't see how they could of to be honest, I wonder if it was the wrong weight projectile?

I've seen guys with cases lined up in the holder-tray fill the same case twice. A lot of the excess just falls outside the brass once they lift the funnel and on a holder-tray with deer recesses it would all hide in there.

Not saying it's easy to do. You'd have to be distracted/not paying close enough attention to do it but I can see it inevitably happening once. if you sat the projectile in on top of that.

Just theorizing here of course.

[bigfellascott]

How do you reckon they got the double charge in the case? I can't see how they could of to be honest, I wonder if it was the wrong weight projectile?

I've seen guys with cases lined up in the holder-tray fill the same case twice. A lot of the excess just falls outside the brass once they lift the funnel and on a holder-tray with deer recesses it would all hide in there.

Not saying it's easy to do. You'd have to be distracted/not paying close enough attention to do it but I can see it inevitably happening once. if you sat the projectile in on top of that.

Just theorizing here of course.

See I do it differently - I don't put any cases into the reloading block until they get charged (I use a chargemaster) once I funnel the powder into the case it then goes in the reloading block not before, that way you can't end up with double charges (not that I could fill any of my cases twice anyway as most are filled up around the base of the neck.

Once the case is in the reloading block I insert a projectile upside down, then repeat the whole process, once all cases are charged I then run them through the seating die (turn the projie up the right way of course) and then put them in the ammo box as I go.

Never ever had an issue with reloading whatsoever.

[Supporter]

I always fill the block with brass and fill the cases from there.

Never had an issue, I've always noticed (it's bloody obvious really) but I have double filled one more than a few times.

Tip it out, give it a few taps and start again of course. No problem.

[Norton]

I've always noticed (it's bloody obvious really) but I have double filled one more than a few times.

I'd say obvious too.

People watching TV while they reload maybe