.22 Mosin Nagant or?

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.22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by John445 » 23 Oct 2013, 8:25 am

So this will sound stupid but bear with me :oops:

At the range on the weekend there was a shooter who had what looked like (didn't ask...) a Mosin Nagant or something similar.

Full size, obviously old, WW2 .30 cal looking rifle.

The bloke had a target set up at 50 metres tough, and when firing it was *snap* *snap* *snap* like it was a 22LR.

Any idea what this would have been? :?
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by feedr » 23 Oct 2013, 8:41 am

Bad news... It was a .30 cal and you've finally gone deaf from too much shooting :P
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Wheelbarrow » 23 Oct 2013, 9:19 am

He didn't just have a .22 next to it on the bench that you couldn't see? :P
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Wes » 23 Oct 2013, 10:39 am

I'm struggling to think what this could possibly be.

.22 makes for a small rifle obviously, can't think what would be "full size" but only chambered in rimfire?

I'm leaning towards another rifle behind it as well :P
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Norton » 23 Oct 2013, 12:45 pm

I think you're fishing without bait here.

No one's going to be able to ID a rifle for you based on it being 'big'.
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by 5Tom » 24 Oct 2013, 8:40 pm

It may have been a Training rifle. I think theres a number of different WW2 era .30cal rifles that were rechambered for .22LR for training purposes.

Did it look like this?
http://www.slickguns.com/product/polish-wz-48-mosin-nagant-22lr-training-rifle-29999
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by John445 » 25 Oct 2013, 7:44 am

Hmm, training rifle hey?

It didn't look like the link above. Like I said, to me it looked like a regular old .30cal which had been banging about for a few decades.

Training rifle would make sense though. I didn't realise they made such things.

Will hit up Google for some more research.

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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by sooey » 27 Oct 2013, 1:50 am

5Tom wrote:It may have been a Training rifle. I think there's a number of different WW2 era .30 cal rifles that were rechambered for .22LR for training purposes.


Didn't know that either.

I'm surprised. In the good old days before the nanny state I thought they'd just what a .30 cal in your hands from the get go :D
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Shooter222 » 27 Dec 2013, 7:03 pm

Was it kicking him around? if not then it may've been a .22
Did you see him open the action? did any brass come out? if so the size should be self explanatory
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by John445 » 27 Dec 2013, 8:39 pm

Nah it wasn't kicking him around. Barely a nudge when firing it.

Didn't see the action/brass though. He was pretty engrossed with his shooting and his mate who was coaching him there so I didn't want to intrude.
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Shooter222 » 27 Dec 2013, 9:41 pm

John445 wrote:Nah it wasn't kicking him around. Barely a nudge when firing it.

Didn't see the action/brass though. He was pretty engrossed with his shooting and his mate who was coaching him there so I didn't want to intrude.


a .22 nudge or a slightly heavier calibre nudge? like a .223 size case? he could've been shooting a Mosin that was re-chambered for something else ( :evil: :evil: :evil: ), reduced handloads or it could be simply that the 7.62x54R doesn't kick him around much
If it was a .22 behind him I don't think you would be able to hear a .22 over a 7.62x54R?
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by John445 » 28 Dec 2013, 3:31 pm

It sounded and looked (to my non expert eyes and ears) like a .22.

The sound more than anything was what made me wonder about it. Just that *snap* *snap* like a 22.

No *boom* or reverberation like with centre fire stuff.
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Wobble » 28 Dec 2013, 5:41 pm

Shooter222 wrote:he could've been shooting a Mosin that was re-chambered for something else ( :evil: :evil: :evil: )


*GASP*! Blasphemy!
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Shooter222 » 28 Dec 2013, 6:39 pm

Wobble wrote:
Shooter222 wrote:he could've been shooting a Mosin that was re-chambered for something else ( :evil: :evil: :evil: )


*GASP*! Blasphemy!


And hence the angry face symbols
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Chickenhawk » 28 Dec 2013, 7:30 pm

Shooter222 wrote:he could've been shooting a Mosin that was re-chambered for something else ( :evil: :evil: :evil: )


Pfft. Why would you do that to a rifle like that, not to mention the hassle :(

Better/easier to buy a new dedicate rifle. A new Howa or whatever isn't that much... :(

You are right to use the angry face :evil:
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Shooter222 » 28 Dec 2013, 7:40 pm

Chickenhawk wrote:
Shooter222 wrote:he could've been shooting a Mosin that was re-chambered for something else ( :evil: :evil: :evil: )


Pfft. Why would you do that to a rifle like that, not to mention the hassle :(

Better/easier to buy a new dedicate rifle. A new Howa or whatever isn't that much... :(

You are right to use the angry face :evil:


I honestly cant see the point in sporterising military surplus rifles either (as you could've guessed from the angry faces) but unfortunately not everyone thinks like me :shock:
I agree with buying a new rifle instead of destroying so much history
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Warrigul » 28 Dec 2013, 8:29 pm

Shooter222 wrote:
Chickenhawk wrote:
Shooter222 wrote:he could've been shooting a Mosin that was re-chambered for something else ( :evil: :evil: :evil: )


Pfft. Why would you do that to a rifle like that, not to mention the hassle :(

Better/easier to buy a new dedicate rifle. A new Howa or whatever isn't that much... :(

You are right to use the angry face :evil:


I honestly cant see the point in sporterising military surplus rifles either (as you could've guessed from the angry faces) but unfortunately not everyone thinks like me :shock:
I agree with buying a new rifle instead of destroying so much history


There are THOUSANDS of moisins, .303's etc etc etc.

I am a collector and am often astounded at times when people go off about someone altering a common as muck rifle. If someone wants to spend $200 and stuff around with a rifle that is their right.

Just my two cents worth.
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Pom » 29 Dec 2013, 11:37 am

Warrigul wrote:If someone wants to spend $200 and stuff around with a rifle that is their right.


Surely it's a lot more than that to re-chamber and old 303 or something similar into a 'modern' calibre?

No?
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Re: .22 Mosin Nagant or?

Post by Warrigul » 29 Dec 2013, 2:25 pm

Pom wrote:
Warrigul wrote:If someone wants to spend $200 and stuff around with a rifle that is their right.


Surely it's a lot more than that to re-chamber and old 303 or something similar into a 'modern' calibre?

No?


If you want a milsurp rifle to stuff around with they are about for around the $200 mark. There are plenty of sproterised .303's about for $250, M38/96 Swedes for about the same (or less).

Hell, when I was after a 357 magnum based on a Cadet the rifle was only $50 and the conversion (parts only I did the rest) $200 yet I was chastised at the range for ruining a unique piece of Australian history. ("go fook yourself and mind your own business" shut the noisy prick up).

Once again, many of these ex military rifles are as common as muck, nice to own and use but still common.
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