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.22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:01 pm

As the title states, these are the 3 rilfes I currently have. What should be my next gun and why?

Shotgun? 12g/410? which brand, why?

Circuit Judge? Calibre?

450 nitro express?

What do I need it for and why? for me, dunno, id like you to tell me if you can, interested in your thoughts, cheers :D
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Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 9:05 pm

Put up pics or no one will believe you.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:09 pm

North East wrote:Put up pics or no one will believe you.


the threads not about showing off my gear mate, its a simple question, your thoughts?
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Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 9:12 pm

Doz wrote:
North East wrote:Put up pics or no one will believe you.


the threads not about showing off my gear mate, its a simple question, your thoughts?


.308 or.... .30-06....for more grunt.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:19 pm

North East wrote:
Doz wrote:
North East wrote:Put up pics or no one will believe you.


the threads not about showing off my gear mate, its a simple question, your thoughts?


.308 or.... .30-06....for more grunt.


cheers for the thought, that's one ive thought about, but the .308 is marked generally as more accurate than the 30-06 and with only 90-150fps faster generally, im happy with my 08 unless you can give me some food for thought as to why.

I know its a hard question as application comes into play, what do I need it for etc. i dunno, fun, hunting, just cos its awesome, appreciate everyones thoughts ta
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Post by KWhorenet » 09 Jul 2015, 9:23 pm

a boomerang. fun, cheap, and it wont matter if you ever get questioned for being a fit and proper person...
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Post by Baronvonrort » 09 Jul 2015, 9:23 pm

Doz wrote:What should be my next gun and why?



It depends on what you want to shoot.

If free range duck is appealing then a shotty.

Probably something between 22lr and .308 like a 223 or 22-250.

I would ditch the air rifle and use something like CCI quiet 22 ammo for the really low power stuff.
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Post by tom604 » 09 Jul 2015, 9:28 pm

30/30 lever,,,red dot,,,,,tight bush,,,try it, you will love it :lol: :lol: i sound like a drug pusher :lol:

12 gauge,, close in bunny work ,,ducks and just because :lol:
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Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 9:28 pm

Doz wrote:
North East wrote:
Doz wrote:
North East wrote:Put up pics or no one will believe you.


the threads not about showing off my gear mate, its a simple question, your thoughts?


.308 or.... .30-06....for more grunt.


cheers for the thought, that's one ive thought about, but the .308 is marked generally as more accurate than the 30-06 and with only 90-150fps faster generally, im happy with my 08 unless you can give me some food for thought as to why.

I know its a hard question as application comes into play, what do I need it for etc. i dunno, fun, hunting, just cos its awesome, appreciate everyones thoughts ta


The .30-06 has been around for over a hundred years. Its good out to 1000 meters and always has been. It's got a bit more kick than a .308 and that why people complain. It's a classic caliber and deadly.
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Post by brett1868 » 09 Jul 2015, 9:33 pm

Since you already have a 308 and possibly reloading for it, why not get yourself a 300 Win Mag? Nice popular cartridge and it'll let you reach out and smack things just that little bit further :) Or buy a 50 BMG and gain 6" in height and 4" longer where it counts..worked for me.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:38 pm

KWhorenet wrote:a boomerang. fun, cheap, and it wont matter if you ever get questioned for being a fit and proper person...


yer mate i know what your getting at...makes me mad too.
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Post by KWhorenet » 09 Jul 2015, 9:41 pm

A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:41 pm

Baronvonrort wrote:
Doz wrote:What should be my next gun and why?



It depends on what you want to shoot.

If free range duck is appealing then a shotty.

Probably something between 22lr and .308 like a 223 or 22-250.

I would ditch the air rifle and use something like CCI quiet 22 ammo for the really low power stuff.


thanks, yer im considering an in betweener, what brand and why if you've got thoughts on it.

As for the air rifle, NO WAY! i already run subbies through the LR and its nice and quiet for that, but the air rifle is a whole other thing. Right shot placement, even on the .177 is deadly for small game, and quieter than my .22, and if anything happens to .22 ammo, making pellets to fit would be very easy.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:44 pm

tom604 wrote:30/30 lever,,,red dot,,,,,tight bush,,,try it, you will love it :lol: :lol: i sound like a drug pusher :lol:

12 gauge,, close in bunny work ,,ducks and just because :lol:


push away mate, i know the feeling and i welcome it lol.

i don't know much about the calibre of the 30/30, what's it good for, accuracy, size of game, price and availability of ammo? (if you know, or can be bothered posting)

the shotty id take straight up....but :cry: :cry: when will i see the Atler 28" 12g lever action :cry: So im waiting...and hoping..
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Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 9:49 pm

.30-30, bugger all recoil, easy to get ammo, very good for close in work....they are a winner....but I prefer more grunt. The .30-30 will take deer.
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Post by KWhorenet » 09 Jul 2015, 9:51 pm

Do you reload? If not, simple answer would be based on ammo price, a .223 and buy a bulk case of ammo cheap. Keep the brass and sell it in batches of 50 or 100 to recover ~60% of the ammo cost.

As for brand...that's a personal choice. Go and pick up a bunch of rifles in gun shops and see what you like. Depends what you want to spend.

To be quite honest, your questions are like asking how long's a piece of string.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:57 pm

brett1868 wrote:Since you already have a 308 and possibly reloading for it, why not get yourself a 300 Win Mag? Nice popular cartridge and it'll let you reach out and smack things just that little bit further :) Or buy a 50 BMG and gain 6" in height and 4" longer where it counts..worked for me.


ok, i know a little about some stuff and have no clue about lots, so bear with me please.

ive thought about the 300 win mag and has a good boot too, i recently shot a mates 450 nitro express with his reloads, boy that was fun! So apart from the distance what else is good reason for the 300 win mag? (aside of just wanting one and its awesome lol).

how much is a 50BMG?
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 9:59 pm

KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.
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Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 10:02 pm

Doz wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:04 pm

KWhorenet wrote:Do you reload? If not, simple answer would be based on ammo price, a .223 and buy a bulk case of ammo cheap. Keep the brass and sell it in batches of 50 or 100 to recover ~60% of the ammo cost.

As for brand...that's a personal choice. Go and pick up a bunch of rifles in gun shops and see what you like. Depends what you want to spend.

To be quite honest, your questions are like asking how long's a piece of string.


Don't reload at present, couple of mates do though, i just give em my brass. I can, will, have and do head into the stores, but im after opinions, tell me how long the darn piece of string is....i don't mind really.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:06 pm

North East wrote:
Doz wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?


We digressed into the fact that it doesn't take much to lose your hobby. In fact, get a good enough lying complaint about your personality or any behaviour and you might even end up in court fighting to be seen as innocent when there was no evidence for the complaint.
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Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 10:10 pm

Doz wrote:
North East wrote:
Doz wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?


We digressed into the fact that it doesn't take much to lose your hobby. In fact, get a good enough lying complaint about your personality or any behaviour and you might even end up in court fighting to be seen as innocent when there was no evidence for the complaint.


I've held a firearms licence for over 30 years....I've never been hassled by police....follow the laws and you can't go wrong.
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Post by brett1868 » 09 Jul 2015, 10:11 pm

How much is a 50BMG?


Full package with scope and mounts you're getting up around $15k before ammo which will set you back another $12 a round or $6.50 to reload. These are totally impracticable to own and shoot but the grin factor is worth it.

An idea on budget might help with suggestions, I shoot a dozen different calibres and each one is enjoyable in it's own way. I'm just as happy shooting the air rifle as I am the big stuff.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:15 pm

brett1868 wrote:
How much is a 50BMG?


Full package with scope and mounts you're getting up around $15k before ammo which will set you back another $12 a round or $6.50 to reload. These are totally impracticable to own and shoot but the grin factor is worth it.

An idea on budget might help with suggestions, I shoot a dozen different calibres and each one is enjoyable in it's own way. I'm just as happy shooting the air rifle as I am the big stuff.


yep, you jogged the memory, i knew it was a serious price tag...but probably worth it lol. As for the various calibres, im the same, they all take a place of purpose and i enjoy them all.

thanks for your thoughts Brett much appreciated mate.
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:18 pm

North East wrote:
Doz wrote:
North East wrote:
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KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?


We digressed into the fact that it doesn't take much to lose your hobby. In fact, get a good enough lying complaint about your personality or any behaviour and you might even end up in court fighting to be seen as innocent when there was no evidence for the complaint.


I've held a firearms licence for over 30 years....I've never been hassled by police....follow the laws and you can't go wrong.


no mate, were not bashing the police here, nor talking about breaking the law, your missing the point, i gave one example of a scenario where your gear can be taken when your innocent and within the law. Just saying...anyways weve digressed again, more thoughts on another gun, cheers
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Post by 1290 » 09 Jul 2015, 10:20 pm

12g all the way.....
every shooter needs at bare minimum 1 each of;
22LR rimfire (cheap plinking fun)
303Brit (preferably Aussie made yeah KW!)
12g for not so cheap but still lots of fun plinking and very effective on everything from bunnies to birds up to whatever you care to shoot at reasonable range
then add your 8x57, a few mags, 300,338winmag, a 375, a 45cal mag, maybe some smaller stuff for the girls like a 243 or 223.....
to start you off..!!
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Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:26 pm

1290 wrote:12g all the way.....
every shooter needs at bare minimum 1 each of;
22LR rimfire (cheap plinking fun)
303Brit (preferably Aussie made yeah KW!)
12g for not so cheap but still lots of fun plinking and very effective on everything from bunnies to birds up to whatever you care to shoot at reasonable range
then add your 8x57, a few mags, 300,338winmag, a 375, a 45cal mag, maybe some smaller stuff for the girls like a 243 or 223.....
to start you off..!!


that's where it sits on the list with my currently, but you know how a visit to the gun shop ends up sometimes lol.

I want the new Adler lever action, and willing to wait and hope and pray, that's why im currently considering another gun to supress my emotional state of not being able to access the Adler lol.

i like the circuit judge, but my choice of calibre would be the .44, i don't think they sell them anymore though.
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Post by brett1868 » 09 Jul 2015, 11:35 pm

1290 wrote:12g all the way.....
every shooter needs at bare minimum 1 each of;
22LR rimfire (cheap plinking fun)
303Brit (preferably Aussie made yeah KW!)
12g for not so cheap but still lots of fun plinking and very effective on everything from bunnies to birds up to whatever you care to shoot at reasonable range
then add your 8x57, a few mags, 300,338winmag, a 375, a 45cal mag, maybe some smaller stuff for the girls like a 243 or 223.....
to start you off..!!


Forgot the 30/30 or 45/70, you just gotta have at least one lever action :D

Strangely enough even with my assortment of rifles I'm missing the 303, 8x57, 338WinMag, 45 Mag, 243 & 223from the above list....Bugger, better get some PTA's in :)
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Post by sandgroperbill » 09 Jul 2015, 11:45 pm

If you're eanting a rifle while waiting for the adler, i would humbly suggest 223. Cheap ammo, accurate enough, would slot into your current collection nicely.
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Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem

Post by KWhorenet » 10 Jul 2015, 12:55 am

Actually, I change my suggestion.

Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem since you like something with a bit of poke and a boom to match. Fits in between your .22lr and .308 for sure.
A bit more entertaining than the .223 rem.
Suggest getting a Tikka M55 or M595, (not a new Tikka model T3) with a heap of once fired brass thrown in as a package deal. Oh wait, I may just have a couple of options available ! ;)
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