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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 10:02 pm

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KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:04 pm

KWhorenet wrote:Do you reload? If not, simple answer would be based on ammo price, a .223 and buy a bulk case of ammo cheap. Keep the brass and sell it in batches of 50 or 100 to recover ~60% of the ammo cost.

As for brand...that's a personal choice. Go and pick up a bunch of rifles in gun shops and see what you like. Depends what you want to spend.

To be quite honest, your questions are like asking how long's a piece of string.


Don't reload at present, couple of mates do though, i just give em my brass. I can, will, have and do head into the stores, but im after opinions, tell me how long the darn piece of string is....i don't mind really.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:06 pm

North East wrote:
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KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?


We digressed into the fact that it doesn't take much to lose your hobby. In fact, get a good enough lying complaint about your personality or any behaviour and you might even end up in court fighting to be seen as innocent when there was no evidence for the complaint.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by North East » 09 Jul 2015, 10:10 pm

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KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?


We digressed into the fact that it doesn't take much to lose your hobby. In fact, get a good enough lying complaint about your personality or any behaviour and you might even end up in court fighting to be seen as innocent when there was no evidence for the complaint.


I've held a firearms licence for over 30 years....I've never been hassled by police....follow the laws and you can't go wrong.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by brett1868 » 09 Jul 2015, 10:11 pm

How much is a 50BMG?


Full package with scope and mounts you're getting up around $15k before ammo which will set you back another $12 a round or $6.50 to reload. These are totally impracticable to own and shoot but the grin factor is worth it.

An idea on budget might help with suggestions, I shoot a dozen different calibres and each one is enjoyable in it's own way. I'm just as happy shooting the air rifle as I am the big stuff.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:15 pm

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How much is a 50BMG?


Full package with scope and mounts you're getting up around $15k before ammo which will set you back another $12 a round or $6.50 to reload. These are totally impracticable to own and shoot but the grin factor is worth it.

An idea on budget might help with suggestions, I shoot a dozen different calibres and each one is enjoyable in it's own way. I'm just as happy shooting the air rifle as I am the big stuff.


yep, you jogged the memory, i knew it was a serious price tag...but probably worth it lol. As for the various calibres, im the same, they all take a place of purpose and i enjoy them all.

thanks for your thoughts Brett much appreciated mate.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:18 pm

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Doz wrote:
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KWhorenet wrote:A guy I know around here lost his bang sticks for a very minor incident of neighbour rage. So he now has a compound bow and says he's taken more deer than beforehand and silently.


mate i love my bowhunting, and prefer it tbh, and yes, don't have to do much to get your license and arms taken off ya, ridiculous i say...we are a persecuted bunch.


Why would you get your firearms taken off you?


We digressed into the fact that it doesn't take much to lose your hobby. In fact, get a good enough lying complaint about your personality or any behaviour and you might even end up in court fighting to be seen as innocent when there was no evidence for the complaint.


I've held a firearms licence for over 30 years....I've never been hassled by police....follow the laws and you can't go wrong.


no mate, were not bashing the police here, nor talking about breaking the law, your missing the point, i gave one example of a scenario where your gear can be taken when your innocent and within the law. Just saying...anyways weve digressed again, more thoughts on another gun, cheers
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by 1290 » 09 Jul 2015, 10:20 pm

12g all the way.....
every shooter needs at bare minimum 1 each of;
22LR rimfire (cheap plinking fun)
303Brit (preferably Aussie made yeah KW!)
12g for not so cheap but still lots of fun plinking and very effective on everything from bunnies to birds up to whatever you care to shoot at reasonable range
then add your 8x57, a few mags, 300,338winmag, a 375, a 45cal mag, maybe some smaller stuff for the girls like a 243 or 223.....
to start you off..!!
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 09 Jul 2015, 10:26 pm

1290 wrote:12g all the way.....
every shooter needs at bare minimum 1 each of;
22LR rimfire (cheap plinking fun)
303Brit (preferably Aussie made yeah KW!)
12g for not so cheap but still lots of fun plinking and very effective on everything from bunnies to birds up to whatever you care to shoot at reasonable range
then add your 8x57, a few mags, 300,338winmag, a 375, a 45cal mag, maybe some smaller stuff for the girls like a 243 or 223.....
to start you off..!!


that's where it sits on the list with my currently, but you know how a visit to the gun shop ends up sometimes lol.

I want the new Adler lever action, and willing to wait and hope and pray, that's why im currently considering another gun to supress my emotional state of not being able to access the Adler lol.

i like the circuit judge, but my choice of calibre would be the .44, i don't think they sell them anymore though.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by brett1868 » 09 Jul 2015, 11:35 pm

1290 wrote:12g all the way.....
every shooter needs at bare minimum 1 each of;
22LR rimfire (cheap plinking fun)
303Brit (preferably Aussie made yeah KW!)
12g for not so cheap but still lots of fun plinking and very effective on everything from bunnies to birds up to whatever you care to shoot at reasonable range
then add your 8x57, a few mags, 300,338winmag, a 375, a 45cal mag, maybe some smaller stuff for the girls like a 243 or 223.....
to start you off..!!


Forgot the 30/30 or 45/70, you just gotta have at least one lever action :D

Strangely enough even with my assortment of rifles I'm missing the 303, 8x57, 338WinMag, 45 Mag, 243 & 223from the above list....Bugger, better get some PTA's in :)
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by sandgroperbill » 09 Jul 2015, 11:45 pm

If you're eanting a rifle while waiting for the adler, i would humbly suggest 223. Cheap ammo, accurate enough, would slot into your current collection nicely.
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Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem

Post by KWhorenet » 10 Jul 2015, 12:55 am

Actually, I change my suggestion.

Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem since you like something with a bit of poke and a boom to match. Fits in between your .22lr and .308 for sure.
A bit more entertaining than the .223 rem.
Suggest getting a Tikka M55 or M595, (not a new Tikka model T3) with a heap of once fired brass thrown in as a package deal. Oh wait, I may just have a couple of options available ! ;)
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by sandgroperbill » 10 Jul 2015, 1:10 am

See, my opinion differs here. I would suggest a .223 would be a better fit seeing there's already a .308, but if you want something a bit flatter perhaps a .204?
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by North East » 10 Jul 2015, 1:13 am

The .204 Ruger is a great caliber....a genuine speed machine.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by KWhorenet » 10 Jul 2015, 1:40 am

sandgroperbill wrote:See, my opinion differs here. I would suggest a .223 would be a better fit seeing there's already a .308, but if you want something a bit flatter perhaps a .204?


You agreed with my suggestion of a 223 wayyyy up the thread.

I have a few old model Tikka 22-250 rem's and a heap of brass. Hence changing my suggestion...as I'd like to sell one.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by sandgroperbill » 10 Jul 2015, 1:46 am

Ah yeah. Sorry. Its late. I shouldn't read forums this late.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by FuzzyM » 10 Jul 2015, 7:32 am

.223REM, cheap to shoot and fun too.
.303British, nostalgia, fun to shoot fast for a bolt gun. Can be had pretty cheap. Mine has a good barrel, came with a cheap scope and plastic stock. Cost 495.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 10 Jul 2015, 9:00 am

sandgroperbill wrote:If you're eanting a rifle while waiting for the adler, i would humbly suggest 223. Cheap ammo, accurate enough, would slot into your current collection nicely.


cheap ammo and more gun up from the .22 is always tempting, thanks for your thoughts ill take a look at one.
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Re: Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem

Post by Doz » 10 Jul 2015, 9:04 am

KWhorenet wrote:Actually, I change my suggestion.

Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem since you like something with a bit of poke and a boom to match. Fits in between your .22lr and .308 for sure.
A bit more entertaining than the .223 rem.
Suggest getting a Tikka M55 or M595, (not a new Tikka model T3) with a heap of once fired brass thrown in as a package deal. Oh wait, I may just have a couple of options available ! ;)


ok, ill take a look at the 22-250 Remington as well. whats the ammo price. Comparable to 223 rem or dearer?

Sounds like you gotta beef with the Tikka T3 lite series? ive got the .308 in stainless, great gun imo, any issues I should know about?
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 10 Jul 2015, 9:07 am

KWhorenet wrote:
sandgroperbill wrote:See, my opinion differs here. I would suggest a .223 would be a better fit seeing there's already a .308, but if you want something a bit flatter perhaps a .204?


You agreed with my suggestion of a 223 wayyyy up the thread.

I have a few old model Tikka 22-250 rem's and a heap of brass. Hence changing my suggestion...as I'd like to sell one.


lol, I did, and even though I might have erred slightly on the negative with a suggestion, if enough opinions weigh in....im teachable lol.

Good call on wanting to sell one, nothing wrong with that mate ;)
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by KWhorenet » 10 Jul 2015, 10:09 am

I went on a buying spree. Have a couple of mint keepers, a donor for parts and couple of good shooters I can't justify keeping.

I bought 200 rounds of ammo for $1 each to get a shot and have brass to reload. Cheaper than buying brass, pill, powder, primer for first shot.

You can Google ammo prices. Generally take off 10% if you buy 10x20 at a time.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by NuZo » 10 Jul 2015, 12:13 pm

12G(everyone needs a 12g)
223Rem
22 PCP Air rifle
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In that order.

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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Baronvonrort » 10 Jul 2015, 2:44 pm

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Doz wrote:What should be my next gun and why?



It depends on what you want to shoot.

If free range duck is appealing then a shotty.

Probably something between 22lr and .308 like a 223 or 22-250.

I would ditch the air rifle and use something like CCI quiet 22 ammo for the really low power stuff.


thanks, yer im considering an in betweener, what brand and why if you've got thoughts on it.

As for the air rifle, NO WAY! i already run subbies through the LR and its nice and quiet for that, but the air rifle is a whole other thing. Right shot placement, even on the .177 is deadly for small game, and quieter than my .22, and if anything happens to .22 ammo, making pellets to fit would be very easy.


As for what brand it depends on budget and visual appeal,some prefer old fashioned others prefer more modern look,at the cheaper end Howa and Tikka are great value.
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Re: Strongly suggest a .22-250 rem

Post by Herdsman » 10 Jul 2015, 3:07 pm

Doz wrote:Sounds like you gotta beef with the Tikka T3 lite series? ive got the .308 in stainless, great gun imo, any issues I should know about?


The T3 is fine.

A few people gripe over the plastic but whatever. It keeps it light and you can't have everything.

And they typically shoot very well.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Doz » 10 Jul 2015, 9:34 pm

thanks all for your input, I appreciate it greatly, and as I learn more its all considered, thanks again, and feel free to keep it coming!!
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by helldamned » 10 Jul 2015, 11:09 pm

don't bother with circuit judges been told by a dealer they not what they cracked up to be.
Choose the calibre for what you are hunting then choose the best rifle you can afford in that
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Oldbloke » 11 Jul 2015, 12:00 pm

sandgroperbill wrote:If you're eanting a rifle while waiting for the adler, i would humbly suggest 223. Cheap ammo, accurate enough, would slot into your current collection nicely.



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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by Yelp » 16 Jul 2015, 11:18 am

helldamned wrote:don't bother with circuit judges been told by a dealer they not what they cracked up to be.


I think he might be in the minority on that one. I've read lots of reviews of people who were very happy.

Quality seems good, hunting accurate. That's what it's meant to be.
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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by David Brown » 16 Jul 2015, 1:01 pm

Doz wrote:
North East wrote:Put up pics or no one will believe you.


the threads not about showing off my gear mate, its a simple question, your thoughts?


This is not playboy magazine, we are not here to read the articles :D

Seriously, you mention the Circuit Judge, get one in 45/410 :thumbsup: My wife loves ours, shoots 45LC and the 410 Critical defines loads are pretty cool. We put a Redfield Counterstrike on it. You will need to change the rail from a weaver to a Picatiny or file out the groove on the rail. Way cool.

You could add a 6.5x55 or 30-06 and a 223.

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Re: .22LR/.308/.177air rifle

Post by wayward » 17 Jul 2015, 10:54 am

Sounds like great fun having the 410 bore built in as well :D
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