Lithgow Crossover Timber .22

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Lithgow Crossover Timber .22

Post by rsj223 » 16 Oct 2015, 8:56 pm

Was looking for a new .22 and decided on a CZ 452 but was told of a timber Lithgow at a LGS was going there to price the CZ anyway, asked the guy can I see that timber Lithgow he said nah sorry sold :( got any more? Nah only had the one Oh wait I'll go check comes back with the box sits in on the counter opens the box slides the cover bag off to reveal the timber stock :D WOW loved it straight away then threw it up to my shoulder and it felt perfect.
Its the most I've ever paid for a rifle but the look feel and quality is spot on
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Re: Lithgow Crossover Timber .22

Post by Sam45 » 16 Oct 2015, 9:59 pm

Certainly quality and it is fantastic that it is Australian made. + 1 from me :)
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Re: Lithgow Crossover Timber .22

Post by AusTac » 16 Oct 2015, 11:27 pm

You got some nice timber on that one mate! Its a winner for sure, i love my lithy .22 synthetic
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Post by sandgroperbill » 17 Oct 2015, 12:38 pm

I might just suggest, maybe block out the serial number?

Some really nice timber, there. Nice looking rifle, and definitely quality
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Post by rsj223 » 17 Oct 2015, 2:00 pm

sandgroperbill wrote:I might just suggest, maybe block out the serial number?

Some really nice timber, there. Nice looking rifle, and definitely quality

Done and thanks, was over excited to show.
Range time tomorrow :mrgreen:
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Post by on_one_wheel » 17 Oct 2015, 3:37 pm

I can't see the big deal about showing your serial number ? Sounds like a bit of paranoia. Just jump on usedguns.com , there's hundreds of serial numbers displayed there.

Blody lovely rifle, scores extra points for being
Australian made and good score with that stock, it's a great piece of timber, is it Aussie wood ?
I usually prefer more of a classic look but they've pulled off the modern lines well.

Bet you can't wait to rattle a heap down range with that one.
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Post by rsj223 » 17 Oct 2015, 3:47 pm

Little bit of paranoia dont want to see my number come up on other rifle, not sure where the timber is from and hope to get some better pics in natural light it may look better.
I have about 300 to let go but first up will need to sight in then work out the best rounds for it.
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Post by Craimos » 17 Oct 2015, 5:39 pm

I spotted one of these at the Lgs this week and lusted after it. Might have to trade in the savage.....
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Post by on_one_wheel » 17 Oct 2015, 9:13 pm

On the Lithgow website it says that a civilian .223 and .308 are coming.
They also do a .17 hmr ... tempting
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Post by rsj223 » 17 Oct 2015, 9:24 pm

Yeah when I emailed them about the .22 I asked when will the .223 and .308 be out he said by the end of the year, think they be saying that since 2013
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Post by on_one_wheel » 17 Oct 2015, 10:00 pm

Great Lightgow review here

I need to stop looking at lithgow's now ... this is bound to turn into a costly obsession.
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Post by David Brown » 17 Oct 2015, 10:10 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:Great Lightgow review here

I need to stop looking at lithgow's now ... this is bound to turn into a costly obsession.



There are worse :D

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Post by bigfellascott » 18 Oct 2015, 3:31 am

Lovely mate, I'd consider buying one now that they have em in Timber (can't stand tuppaware stocks) too cheap and plasticy for my liking. I'll be interested to see how it shoots. :thumbsup:

I know a fella who has one and it was ok (nothing special in the accuracy dept and it also had feed issues) and I know others that shoot very well (I guess they are just like any other rifle in that respect, some are great others not so). :unknown:

They definitely would be worth considering if you were in the market of a 22.
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Post by sandgroperbill » 18 Oct 2015, 12:14 pm

Once my adler comes in i will be in the market for a rimfire. They are a nice rifle, but they just don't quite fit my shoulder just right. Same with the cz 452 and 455, they're all a case of close but no cigar (plus i've heard a few people say that the cz's are more susceptible to rust than they should be).

If it turns out that i can't find a better fit, i'll seriously consider either this or the three barrel cz 455 and look at changing the butt pad to get a better fit.

But the build quality and the fact they're aussie made are really appealing to me
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Post by bigfellascott » 18 Oct 2015, 2:38 pm

sandgroperbill wrote:Once my adler comes in i will be in the market for a rimfire. They are a nice rifle, but they just don't quite fit my shoulder just right. Same with the cz 452 and 455, they're all a case of close but no cigar (plus i've heard a few people say that the cz's are more susceptible to rust than they should be).

If it turns out that i can't find a better fit, i'll seriously consider either this or the three barrel cz 455 and look at changing the butt pad to get a better fit.

But the build quality and the fact they're aussie made are really appealing to me


Nothing rusts if you keep it well oiled mate. :thumbsup:
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Post by on_one_wheel » 18 Oct 2015, 5:36 pm

I've never had a spec of rust on my 452 in the 19 years I've had it.
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Post by sandgroperbill » 18 Oct 2015, 6:02 pm

Personally i keep the bore and bolt oiled and use a silicon rag for the externals. I also pull my rifles out for maintenance when i haven't usedthem for a while. I've heard a couple of people and a lgs mention rust, but hearing from someone that has owned one a while is more valuable.

My biggest issue with the ones ive handled so far is the shoulder fit. The 455 seemed to fit a little better than the 452. The lithgow also didn't quite fit right, but i would like to try a timber stock
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Post by Gwion » 18 Oct 2015, 9:33 pm

Just reminded me to give them all a stripping down and oiling up, BigFella!

That rifle certainly makes me want to add another safe!
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Post by rsj223 » 18 Oct 2015, 10:04 pm

Well a half a day at the range and the results are ok but the mag has a prob, the sand bags I had were either to high or to low.
It likes RWS HV and the CCI mini mag would be second followed by Winchester power point the subs were RWS and Winchester that done very well at 25mtr but dropped and opened up a bit at 50mtr.
The best at 25 were RWS HV about 10mm and around 18mm were the CCI and RWS about the same.
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Post by AusTac » 19 Oct 2015, 3:42 am

Mine always fails to feed on the last round also, but i usually top load it individually at the range as the prodgie gets all torn up during feeding, i dunno what it is, maybe try a cz mag?
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Post by bigfellascott » 19 Oct 2015, 5:37 am

Yep looks like they still have feed/extraction issues, won't be buying one until they address these issues (for a rifle that price it should work perfectly) even my cheap savage works as it should!
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Post by rsj223 » 19 Oct 2015, 8:17 am

bigfellascott wrote:Yep looks like they still have feed/extraction issues, won't be buying one until they address these issues (for a rifle that price it should work perfectly) even my cheap savage works as it should!

I thought this one would have had all problems sorted out by now, should have brought a CZ
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Post by bigfellascott » 19 Oct 2015, 8:27 am

rsj223 wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Yep looks like they still have feed/extraction issues, won't be buying one until they address these issues (for a rifle that price it should work perfectly) even my cheap savage works as it should!

I thought this one would have had all problems sorted out by now, should have brought a CZ


Yeah a bit disappointing I guess mate, you shell out top dollar for a nice rifle and it has issues like this still continuing since it inception, one would have thought they'd have worked out what these issues are by now and addressed them to make the produce equal the top dollar price tag. :unknown:

These problems are the reason many including myself haven't gone near them, I see no point in shelling out top dollar for something that doesn't work as intended, the daughters Savage Mk2 performs perfectly and only cost just over $400! why would I shell out almost 3x that and get something that had functionality problems, Lithgow Arms need to lift their game if they want these things to sell as good or better than their competitors whom have rifles that are cheaper and actually function as one would expect.
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Post by Gwion » 19 Oct 2015, 8:35 am

Maybe more people need to send them back for warranty rather than pushing on or trying to do their own fix.

If they get every third one they sell back for warranty repair, they'll soon sort the issue to save costs.

PS: read on one of the gazzillion threads about these rifles that they feed just fine from CZ mags???
Would make sense as they were developed with CZ mags.... dunno...
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Post by rsj223 » 19 Oct 2015, 8:40 am

This is one of them "not fit for purpose" issues.
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Post by bigfellascott » 19 Oct 2015, 8:40 am

Gwion wrote:Maybe more people need to send them back for warranty rather than pushing on or trying to do their own fix.

If they get every third one they sell back for warranty repair, they'll soon sort the issue to save costs.

PS: read on one of the gazzillion threads about these rifles that they feed just fine from CZ mags???
Would make sense as they were developed with CZ mags.... dunno...


You'd think they'd sell em with CZ mags and save every poor owner the heartache of putting up with poor performing rifles, I guess they want to offload all the dud mags them got manufactured first hey. :unknown:
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Post by bigfellascott » 19 Oct 2015, 8:48 am

rsj223 wrote:This is one of them "not fit for purpose" issues.


Yep I wouldn't be putting up with it, it clearly doesn't work as it should so take the bastard back and make em sort it or get your money back! These people need to know that people aren't willing to put up with inferior products just because its Aus Made, hopefully then as Giwon said they will start addressing what is clearly an issue (plenty of evidence to back that up out there).

Not good enough Lithgow Arms - Start addressing the problem and stop trying to ignore it!
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Post by rsj223 » 19 Oct 2015, 8:53 am

I sent them email I'm not paying for more problems, life has enough as it is
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Post by Gwion » 19 Oct 2015, 8:56 am

yup...

Love the rifle for look feel and handling, and it's Aussie made factor... definitely don't think these issues continuing is good enough.

I have also read that the initial ones didn't quite meet the "free floated" tag and a number were returned with speedy remedy and that issue was fixed quickly. This suggests to me that they are keen to fix any issues.

It's a painful process but i'd be sending it back for the problem to be solved.
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Post by Gwion » 19 Oct 2015, 8:58 am

rsj223 wrote:I sent them email I'm not paying for more problems, life has enough as it is


Let us know the response and good luck with it.

All repairs and transport should be entirely at their expense.
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