Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

[deye243]

got on to Nioa today the Ruger is on order (200 of them) with 91 pre ordered they wouldn't give me a RRP so onto the LGS to find out tomorrow

If you finish up with one of those Ruger Target versions, I would be most interested to hear your impressions.
Sorry, but my two LA101's aren't going anywhere - Currently in the process of moving on a few rifles including a 17XX Anschutz Custom which would pay for half a dozen Lithgows - Does that tell you something !!![/quote]

yep .... and if I had the funds I would have a 101 in 17 as well I already have 2 mags for it

I have my name (and deposit) on one of them but it'll be a few months away apparently.

I don't know why as 2 weeks ago the distributer had 7 in stock opps that was the same as mine black cerakote lam stock

very interested in the 17 as they have a cut barrel

[bladeracer]

I have my name (and deposit) on one of them but it'll be a few months away apparently.

I don't know why as 2 weeks ago the distributer had 7 in stock opps that was the same as mine black cerakote lam stock

very interested in the 17 as they have a cut barrel

I wasn't aware that any had reached Oz for resale as yet.

Do you mean the .17 is not a hammer-forged barrel?
Still says Cold Hammer-Forged in the specs - http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRimfireTarget/specSheets/8350.html

I would've thought a cut barrel would be the last thing you'd want in a .17 bore?

[Gwion]

Wires crossed.
Deye is talking about Lithgow!

[rsj223]

I asked Ruger about accuracy and this was the response,
"We do not make a guarantee of accuracy for the American Rimfire Target beyond what is advertised on our website. We do factory test the firearm for function only.
Ruger Customer Service"

[bladeracer]

I asked Ruger about accuracy and this was the response,
"We do not make a guarantee of accuracy for the American Rimfire Target beyond what is advertised on our website. We do factory test the firearm for function only.
Ruger Customer Service"

Can't see that it matters what they say, there are enough happy Ruger shooters that can tell you how accurate they are under real world conditions.
You're welcome to have a play with mine when I get it, although they're still not giving any delivery estimates.

I've been told now that the Target is still a sporting chamber, not a match chamber so hopefully it'll prefer cheaper ammo.

[Flyer]

Ordered a Ruger american target .22 but could take up to 2 months to get here so the LGS has a CZ452 HB for about $850 used what your thoughts on this until the Roger hits my hands

452 - me rikey velly much! 5-shot groups - my 452 sporter barrel will do this all day @ 50m

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[rsj223]

Thats great wanna sell it lol

[Flyer]

Funny, I bought two rifles at the same time - the 452 just mentioned and a new 455. I ended up selling the 455, but I'll never sell my 452!

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455 top, 452 bottom

[Tomek]

Man your rifles are so cool. After some holidaying, I plan to go to one of the next LR bench sub-clubs at Little River in Vic soon. The range officer said I could get the other people to shoot my cz455 rifle and I could try theirs. At this point, getting a tight group would make me cry lol.

[rsj223]

I asked Ruger about accuracy and this was the response,
"We do not make a guarantee of accuracy for the American Rimfire Target beyond what is advertised on our website. We do factory test the firearm for function only.
Ruger Customer Service"

Can't see that it matters what they say, there are enough happy Ruger shooters that can tell you how accurate they are under real world conditions.
You're welcome to have a play with mine when I get it, although they're still not giving any delivery estimates.

I've been told now that the Target is still a sporting chamber, not a match chamber so hopefully it'll prefer cheaper ammo.

Well it appears that the "target" may just be a re-stocked OD Green Ruger, your thoughts...
http://www.ruger.com/products/americanR ... /8334.html

[bladeracer]

Well it appears that the "target" may just be a re-stocked OD Green Ruger, your thoughts...
http://www.ruger.com/products/americanR ... /8334.html

As far as I've been able to work out the only functional difference is the threaded heavier barrel. Everything else is the same as any other Ruger American Rimfire. The Predator has a barrel profile in between the Target and Standard, but I think it was a limited production run. I think maybe the Tactical has a slightly heaver barrel than standard?

Still no further updates on arrival estimates

[rsj223]

Well it appears that the "target" may just be a re-stocked OD Green Ruger, your thoughts...
http://www.ruger.com/products/americanR ... /8334.html

As far as I've been able to work out the only functional difference is the threaded heavier barrel. Everything else is the same as any other Ruger American Rimfire. The Predator has a barrel profile in between the Target and Standard, but I think it was a limited production run. I think maybe the Tactical has a slightly heaver barrel than standard?

Still no further updates on arrival estimates

Well I cant get very far with Ruger they just send back the links to the spec's on both rifles that read very much the same but yes the target barrel does look thicker, One more email I think.

[bladeracer]

Well I cant get very far with Ruger they just send back the links to the spec's on both rifles that read very much the same but yes the target barrel does look thicker, One more email I think.

It took them several weeks to respond to my request about the chamber...without addressing my question at all
According to the specs on http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRimfireTarget/models.html the only differences are the barrel, the stock and that it comes with a rail. Since it comes with a rail but no sights it seems silly to replace the original polymer stock with its two cheek heights for a low-comb laminate.

My intention is to put it into an LSS-22 chassis, but I might decide to spend some time with it as is before doing so. As I said, if I can get it to you you're welcome to play with it to decide if it's what you want.

[Gamerancher]

Bladeracer, you'll want to keep that stock if you want to shoot silhouette. Those chassis you like are out of spec for competition.

[bladeracer]

Bladeracer, you'll want to keep that stock if you want to shoot silhouette. Those chassis you like are out of spec for competition.

Bugger. For me, competition is about honing my field skills, not winning trophies.
Oh well.

[bladeracer]

Bladeracer, you'll want to keep that stock if you want to shoot silhouette. Those chassis you like are out of spec for competition.

Had a look at the rules and all I can see that might apply refers to adjustable cheek pieces and butt plates.
https://ssaa.org.au/assets/disciplines/rifle-metallic-silhouette/Rifle-Metallic-Silhouette-rule-book.pdf
"adjustable buttplates and adjustable cheekpieces must be fixed and sealed in place"

Is that the only problem you can see?
My M4 stocks do not have adjustable butt plates, although I do have one with an adjustable cheek piece, but it requires a screwdriver to adjust. I would think being screwed in one position would comply with being "fixed in place" wouldn't it?

[Gamerancher]

Yeah, it would, just has to be below centreline of the bore. They may comply if they aren't too wide in the fore-end and there is also a drop at heel measurement. It won't matter for club work, just the major matches. I'd still hang on to that stock you pictured above, looks like a nice "off-hand" stock.

[rsj223]

FYI From Ruger Today
The 8334 barrel tapers from .760 diameter to a .720 diameter at the muzzle. The 8348 barrel is 0.860 with no taper.

The target model has a wood laminate stock vs. plastic and the accuracy should be better.

Ruger Customer Service

[rsj223]

FYI From Ruger Today
The 8334 barrel tapers from .760 diameter to a .720 diameter at the muzzle. The 8348 barrel is 0.860 with no taper.

The target model has a wood laminate stock vs. plastic and the accuracy should be better.

Ruger Customer Service

So need some help as I want to either buy the OD Green or place an order for the Target.
Can the barrel thickness set out above make a difference on a .22 when they are both hammer forged and whatever that stuff means and the same action and length.
I dont want a super bench rifle but would be good to sit on the bench and get reasonable groups but would mostly be used for hunting and plinking.

[bladeracer]

So need some help as I want to either buy the OD Green or place an order for the Target.
Can the barrel thickness set out above make a difference on a .22 when they are both hammer forged and whatever that stuff means and the same action and length.
I dont want a super bench rifle but would be good to sit on the bench and get reasonable groups but would mostly be used for hunting and plinking.

I really don't know with a .22. All the current rimfires run at 24,000psi max, roughly double that of shotguns but half that of most high-velocity centrefires. I would expect it's still enough for barrel harmonics to have an affect on accuracy.
Ruger claims my Compact is 2.4kg, while the Target is 3.04kg - 25% heavier (both with 18" barrels). With almost 40% more steel in the barrel I would expect it to better withstand barrel whip. I don't know if it's possible to get a .22 hot enough for temperature to play any role in accuracy but I doubt it.

When I was a kid I had a very long, very heavy barrel on a single-shot .22 rifle and it shot very, very well. But was ridiculously heavy for field use.

[in2anity]

Get the target version if you can hold out. If you want pinpoint accuracy, barrel meat is your friend.

[Seamouse]

I've been looking at getting my first 22 and had narrowed it down pretty much to what has been discussed in this thread American rimfire and a cz 455. A bit confused about which model 455 to be looking at, and if anyone knows is a busman just an American with a southern cross on the handle?

Thanks

[bladeracer]

I just got an email. NIOA expect to land the Ruger Rimfire Target on April 20.

[rsj223]

Yeah and I think they should be at the SSAA shot show in May and I thinks I will wait for that now.

[rsj223]

So still waiting for the show but seen this today, has anyone seen or know much about Savage?
https://www.nioa.com.au/products/view/B22F

[bladeracer]

I just got an email. NIOA expect to land the Ruger Rimfire Target on April 20.

My Ruger Target arrived at the shop just after lunch so I raced in and grabbed it.
Also got another eight types of ammo for a huge test-fest - I should be able to run at least 40 different types through it

[rsj223]

I just got an email. NIOA expect to land the Ruger Rimfire Target on April 20.

My Ruger Target arrived at the shop just after lunch so I raced in and grabbed it.
Also got another eight types of ammo for a huge test-fest - I should be able to run at least 40 different types through it

Nice how does it feel? can you pm me what LGS and do they have more.

[in2anity]

I just got an email. NIOA expect to land the Ruger Rimfire Target on April 20.

My Ruger Target arrived at the shop just after lunch so I raced in and grabbed it.
Also got another eight types of ammo for a huge test-fest - I should be able to run at least 40 different types through it

Make sure you post a range-report blade! Very interested to see how she groups- could take CZ's place at that price-point.

[bladeracer]

Nice how does it feel? can you pm me what LGS and do they have more.

Looks and feels like any Ruger should, perfect
I had my local order it for me from NIOA on February 16th, and half the first 200-rifle shipment was already spoken for at that time.
They arrived in Oz on April 20th, then NIOA had to get them through Customs before sending them to dealers.
$700 plus the $10 PtA.

Just ask your local to order one.

[bladeracer]

Make sure you post a range-report blade! Very interested to see how she groups- could take CZ's place at that price-point.

Definitely going to keep everybody informed
https://enoughgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8123