Need Input - 22 LR \ WMR Revolver Combo

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Need Input - 22 LR \ WMR Revolver Combo

Post by Eduardo » 04 Dec 2013, 5:53 am

Need some input folks.
Been interested in a .22 revolver but then thought it would be cool to have one that can swap cylinders to shoot either .22LR or .22 WMR, so now I must have one.

Two that I am looking at now are the Ruger Single Six Convertible and the Taurus 992 Tracker. Cost seems to be a wash.

Here's what I can gather so far as far as pro's and con's.

Ruger Single Six Convertible

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Pro:
Legendary Reliability
Asthetics, better looking that the Taurus IMHO. Amazing fit and finish.

Con:
6 round capacity
Single Action only


Taurus 992 Tracker

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Pro:
Life Warranty - not on the owner, the gun (pretty cool)
9 Round capacity
Double or Single Action

Con:
Questionable reliability
Lower Resale Value
Weight - not a problem for me.

That's all I can think of. If you can think of any additional Pros\Cons please feel free to add. I do not know what the trigger is like on either of these guns. So if anyone has any insight please let me know. Also, if you are aware of any additional guns I should be looking at I'd love to hear about it.
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Re: Need Input - 22 LR \ WMR Revolver Combo

Post by Guliver » 04 Dec 2013, 6:33 am

Eduardo wrote:Con:
6 round capacity
Single Action only

Is that a con when you only ever need to load five on the range?
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Post by Eduardo » 04 Dec 2013, 7:38 am

Range limit in New York is 10, at home or anywhere else it's 7.


Guliver wrote:
Eduardo wrote:Con:
6 round capacity
Single Action only

Is that a con when you only ever need to load five on the range?
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Post by Atter » 04 Dec 2013, 7:54 am

The Taurus really doesn't have any style compared to the Ruger.

It's a real lump of a pistol...
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Post by beepar » 04 Dec 2013, 8:02 am

Ruger wins on classiness alone.
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Post by Blackened » 04 Dec 2013, 9:48 am

If the single action doesn't worry you, Ruger. Hands down.
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Post by Guliver » 04 Dec 2013, 10:00 am

Eduardo wrote:Range limit in New York is 10, at home or anywhere else it's 7.

OK missed that you were in the US.
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Post by Rippah » 04 Dec 2013, 10:17 am

Atter wrote:It's a real lump of a pistol...


Good description.
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Post by Warrigul » 04 Dec 2013, 10:55 am

Eduardo wrote:Need some input folks.


Ruger Single Six Convertible

Pro:
Legendary Reliability
Asthetics, better looking that the Taurus IMHO. Amazing fit and finish.

Con:
6 round capacity
Single Action only



Ruger make a single TEN now,

Exactly the same but it is a 10 shot cylinder.

I have had a RUGER single six for years now and love it, needed a trigger job when I got it but has always been accurate. I love single action revolvers, if I want to shoot fast I pick up a semi auto.
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Post by Eduardo » 04 Dec 2013, 11:40 am

But they don't make a Single Ten Convertible. If they did it would be a no brainer.

Warrigul wrote: Ruger make a single TEN now,

Exactly the same but it is a 10 shot cylinder.

I have had a RUGER single six for years now and love it, needed a trigger job when I got it but has always been accurate. I love single action revolvers, if I want to shoot fast I pick up a semi auto.
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Post by Warrigul » 04 Dec 2013, 12:34 pm

Eduardo wrote:But they don't make a Single Ten Convertible. If they did it would be a no brainer.

Warrigul wrote: Ruger make a single TEN now,

Exactly the same but it is a 10 shot cylinder.

I have had a RUGER single six for years now and love it, needed a trigger job when I got it but has always been accurate. I love single action revolvers, if I want to shoot fast I pick up a semi auto.


Sorry thought it was, on that point I have only used the WMR cylinder twice as the .22WM aren't as accurate as the .22LR.

One good point about the Taurus is it is a swing out to load cylinder, the loading gate on the Ruger does get tiresome at times.
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Post by Fry » 04 Dec 2013, 12:40 pm

Dunno if it's just a bad photo, but the Taurus grip looks like it's made out of bathmat rubber or something?
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Post by Eduardo » 04 Dec 2013, 1:20 pm

That's not far from the truth. I should have added this to the pro\con list. The grips on the Taurus are certainly more comfortable than the Ruger. But I think when you're going for the classic look of the Ruger, that is to be expected.

Fry wrote:Dunno if it's just a bad photo, but the Taurus grip looks like it's made out of bathmat rubber or something?
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Post by Eduardo » 04 Dec 2013, 1:22 pm

Thanks, I had not thought of that. Another Pro\Con to add to the list.

Warrigul wrote: Sorry thought it was, on that point I have only used the WMR cylinder twice as the .22WM aren't as accurate as the .22LR.

One good point about the Taurus is it is a swing out to load cylinder, the loading gate on the Ruger does get tiresome at times.
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Post by whert » 05 Dec 2013, 6:09 am

Why all the bulk of the Taurus for shooting such a small calibre? :?
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Post by Eduardo » 23 Dec 2013, 10:51 pm

Thanks for the feedback all. I selected the Ruger. I ordered it and now the waiting starts.
Steps remaining.
1. Retailer processes order 5-7 days
2. Retailer ships to my local federal firearm licensee (FFL) 4-6 days
3. FFL contacts me to let me know gun arrived.
4. I visit local FFL to get record of transaction.
5. I take record to my local County Clerks office, submit $5 payment and application to have my permit amended.
6. County Clerk takes application and sends to County Judge.
7. Judge reviews application and approves\reject application, send application back to County Clerk with disposition.
8. If approved, County Clerk mails amended permit back to me along with stub with judges signature.
9. I take permit and signed stub back to FFL.
10. FFL runs background check on me via our instant background check system (done on premises).
11. I pay FFL fee ($30 - $60).
12. Smiling, I go home with my new purchase. Probably some time in February.
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Post by Hercl » 24 Dec 2013, 6:23 am

Steps remaining for us Aussies.

1. Nope!

The end.

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Post by Ariat » 24 Dec 2013, 10:16 am

Just for curiosity, Eduardo.

Is all that process because this is your first pistol?

Are future purchases quicker or do you repeat this every time in your state?
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Post by Eduardo » 24 Dec 2013, 10:48 am

This is the process for each pistol purchase, each has to be individually reviewed and approved by a judge and each pistol must be listed on your permit. So, you don't have a blanket permit to own handguns, you have a permit to own the specific handguns listed on your permit. If you're found with a handgun not listed on your permit, you get arrested.

The process to obtain the initial permit is much longer and far more difficult (averages about 11 months in my State\County, but I've heard stories of 14+ months).

Rifles are much easier, basically remove steps 4-9.

Ariat wrote:Just for curiosity, Eduardo.

Is all that process because this is your first pistol?

Are future purchases quicker or do you repeat this every time in your state?
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Post by sneaker » 24 Dec 2013, 2:00 pm

Eduardo wrote:If you're found with a handgun not listed on your permit, you get arrested.


Is that a lose your license/all your guns type event?
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Post by Monty » 24 Dec 2013, 2:49 pm

sneaker wrote:Is that a lose your license/all your guns type event?


I believe any felony conviction in the US stops you owning a firearm.

I think it's probably a safe bet that unlawful possession of a firearm is a felony over there.
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Post by Eduardo » 24 Dec 2013, 11:55 pm

Yeah, like Monty said. Unlawful possession of a firearm is a felony and will very likely lead to confiscation of your firearms. Perhaps not if you lawyer up real well but that would be a stretch.

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Eduardo wrote:If you're found with a handgun not listed on your permit, you get arrested.


Is that a lose your license/all your guns type event?
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Post by sneaker » 26 Dec 2013, 9:04 pm

Cool, thanks.
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Post by Eduardo » 18 Feb 2014, 1:33 pm

My Ruger Single Six Convertible is finally home, safe and sound. Once I picked it up I was shooting it within the hour. I quickly found out it did not come sighted in from the factory, but once I got it dialed in, it was a load of fun.
I was surprised by the 22WMR as this was my first time shooting that round. Nice crack to it. I can see why people use it as a self defense round in guns like the Ruger LCR. It's also pretty accurate from what I can see thus far. I didn't shoot much because it started to rain but I probably got off 70 rounds or so between 22LR and 22WMR. The long barrel and easy trigger makes for some good shooting.
When I got back I changed out the stock grips to the Hogue grips I brought for it weeks prior. They provide an immediate gain in feel. Sure, they're ugly but I'm looking for function plus I'll have pristine stick grips sitting safely in my den.
Fit and finish is heirloom quality. This gun will outlive me by a good margin I suspect. Trigger is great, don't see needing to do much to it at this point. I shot <1" groups at 15' without trying too hard.
Gripes?
I can't say I'm a big fan of the load gate and the fact that I have to extract each shell one by one but at least it'll help me pace myself. I shot it today just walking around without a table or place to hold things and found that I would have benefited from an extra hand or two. Having to open the load gate, feed each round, rotate the cylinder all while holding gun still takes some dexterity. Also changing the cylinder on the go takes some time. I'm sure I'll get better at it but I am giving my first impression.
But I did not buy this gun for it's ease of use. I brought it because of it's undeniable cool factor combined with it's flexibility. So far so good, mission thus far accomplished.

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Post by sha » 18 Feb 2014, 1:55 pm

That's purty :D

Looks like a catalogue shot on that red carpet :lol:
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Post by The Brass » 18 Feb 2014, 6:11 pm

Dead set, that 4th picture is tops :lol:
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