Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by SCJ429 » 02 Jun 2018, 9:32 pm

There is only one Savage on used guns for $300 and it is blued, pick yourself up a tub of grease from SuperCheap and apply liberally when storing it if you buy the Savage.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Wombat » 02 Jun 2018, 10:07 pm

SCJ429 wrote:There is only one Savage on used guns for $300 and it is blued, pick yourself up a tub of grease from SuperCheap and apply liberally when storing it if you buy the Savage.

Do you store rifles in a 44 gallon drum full of salt water? The OP is a new shooter, please bear that in mind. A wipe over with an oily rag should be ok for blued guns in most parts of Australia.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by SCJ429 » 02 Jun 2018, 10:22 pm

A lot of oils migrate away from where they were applied, grease won't .and a quick wipe over before you head out and it is ready to use. Have you never been caught out by humidity and found rust on your rifle Wombat?
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by bigfellascott » 02 Jun 2018, 10:44 pm

SCJ429 wrote:There is only one Savage on used guns for $300 and it is blued, pick yourself up a tub of grease from SuperCheap and apply liberally when storing it if you buy the Savage.


:unknown: Got a Blued Savage, no rust on it anywhere, only wipe it over with Lanox and put it in the safe. :drinks:
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by SCJ429 » 02 Jun 2018, 10:51 pm

Lanox is a good option, I use grease. The end result is the same. As long as you are using something to prevent rust.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Wombat » 02 Jun 2018, 10:57 pm

No never been caught out with rust on a blued rifle. But mine dont sit for too long without an airing and quick wipe over.
Even so my 1872/1900 conversion Martini Enfield sat in one place from the early 1950's until the 80's with just a 3 in 1 oil wipe and it was ok It was fine externally sitting from the 80's until five or so years ago with a fresh application of Singer sewing machine oil. The bore is stuffed though as it wasn't cleaned properly when it was shot in about 1982 or 3.
A lot has to do with where you store your guns, high humidity and big temperature fluctuations are the enemy - Sheds for example.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Wombat » 02 Jun 2018, 11:18 pm

Some peoples sweat has a tendency to cause rust more than others on blued guns. If someone else has handled my guns I take extra care. I was wrong in my previous post, in the late 1970's I had rust appear on my Chinese air rifle after a mate had been plinking with me. Wherever he had touched it had his rusty fingerprints.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by SCJ429 » 02 Jun 2018, 11:25 pm

A friend of mine inherited some rifles which were stored down the coast for years and the bore was choked with rust. A little grease would have saved them. One was a WW1 Lee Enfield, such a shame.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Zarrs » 04 Jun 2018, 1:14 am

I have a la101 and its a great rifle, on Saturday I had the chance of firing the new Rugger a bloke at the range had one and that is also a great rifle and a bit cheaper. I wouldn't take either hunting for me they are to heavy or to awkward t hunt with but for the range I love them.

A CZ for me is the perfect hunting rifle a its great at the range and nice and light to hunt with but thats just my view so I guess pick what you want to do and go to your local gun shop and get a feel of the rifles.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Nigel » 06 Jun 2018, 3:00 am

I am also in the market for a 22LR and have been considering my options for a few months. The CZ 455 and Lithgow LA101 are two at the top of my list.

You should be aware that there is a new rimfire rifle produced by Tikka, the T1X, due to be released soon.

http://www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t1x/t1x

I think these were originally scheduled for release in April but it has been delayed a couple of times. The last I heard was June but it keeps getting pushed back. This is a highly anticipated release. They have lots of pre-orders around the world and there is a lot of discussion of this rifle on various forums. The Australian pricing is around $900.

I have decided to wait and see what the initial reviews of the T1X are like. If they are as good as other Tikkas, I expect the T1X will go to the top of my list.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by JimTom » 06 Jun 2018, 4:51 am

Nigel wrote:I am also in the market for a 22LR and have been considering my options for a few months. The CZ 455 and Lithgow LA101 are two at the top of my list.

You should be aware that there is a new rimfire rifle produced by Tikka, the T1X, due to be released soon.


http://www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t1x/t1x

I think these were originally scheduled for release in April but it has been delayed a couple of times. The last I heard was June but it keeps getting pushed back. This is a highly anticipated release. They have lots of pre-orders around the world and there is a lot of discussion of this rifle on various forums. The Australian pricing is around $900.

I have decided to wait and see what the initial reviews of the T1X are like. If they are as good as other Tikkas, I expect the T1X will go to the top of my list.




Yes it would be worth the wait to see what the new Tikka rimfire is like.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by in2anity » 06 Jun 2018, 10:46 am

IMA bet there will be t1x's at the Sydney Shot Expo...
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by winton » 06 Jun 2018, 5:07 pm

I just handled the Steyr Zephyr 2. Extremely well made CZ clone with their own mods. One of the nicest looking 22 I've ever seen. Price on par with the equally good lithgow, but I know for sure the 101 shoots real well.

Would love to know how these steyrs shoot.
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Post by brett1868 » 06 Jun 2018, 9:37 pm

in2anity wrote:IMA bet there will be t1x's at the Sydney Shot Expo...


Don't be betting too much cause the word I got today was maybe we'll see them the end of July. I was thinking to buy a ANSCHUTZ 1710 DHB G-28 TACTICAL 22LR 18" 10 SHOT to compete in some rim fire comps till I saw the price tag. Something about paying $3450 for a 22LR is reason to reconsider and look at other options. If the Tikka 22 shoots as well as the bigger centre fire relatives then I'll be on one like me on cake :)
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by pappaszx9 » 07 Jun 2018, 7:09 am

Wow, great response guys! Thanks for the info! The Lithgow LA101 has always been high on my want list but I remember reading on a forum that you would be crazy to spend that much money on a 22. But Flyer makes a good point, it will probably be the most used gun that I will buy.

So in saying that I guess my budget just doubled. I'm going to go to the Sydney Shot Expo and hopefully see if they have any show specials.

I really like the look of that T1X but I'm leaning towards the Australian made gun for the moment. I guess that may change when I get my hands on them, hopefully at the expo.

New short list is Lithgow La101, Tikka T1x (if it's available) and CZ455.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Gwion » 07 Jun 2018, 8:03 am

Spend what you can afford on a 22lr. If you like it, you will have it for the rest of your life. Very doubtful you would ever wear it out...
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by JimTom » 07 Jun 2018, 8:18 am

pappaszx9 wrote:Wow, great response guys! Thanks for the info! The Lithgow LA101 has always been high on my want list but I remember reading on a forum that you would be crazy to spend that much money on a 22. But Flyer makes a good point, it will probably be the most used gun that I will buy.

So in saying that I guess my budget just doubled. I'm going to go to the Sydney Shot Expo and hopefully see if they have any show specials.

I really like the look of that T1X but I'm leaning towards the Australian made gun for the moment. I guess that may change when I get my hands on them, hopefully at the expo.

New short list is Lithgow La101, Tikka T1x (if it's available) and CZ455.



Yep you’re onto it mate. Can’t go wrong with any of those, provided the Tikka T1x performs similarly to its big sister the T3x.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by PaddyT » 07 Jun 2018, 2:02 pm

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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by pappaszx9 » 25 Jun 2018, 2:44 am

Thanks for everyone's recommendations! I went to the Shot Expo over the weekend and ended up buying a Tikka T1x. I ended up narrowing it down to the Lithgow LA101 and the Tikka. The Lithgow looks and feels like a great gun but the T1X I liked just that bit more.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by Stix » 25 Jun 2018, 6:35 am

:thumbsup:
Let us know how its shoots...
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by in2anity » 25 Jun 2018, 10:58 am

pappaszx9 wrote:Thanks for everyone's recommendations! I went to the Shot Expo over the weekend and ended up buying a Tikka T1x. I ended up narrowing it down to the Lithgow LA101 and the Tikka. The Lithgow looks and feels like a great gun but the T1X I liked just that bit more.

pappa did yu get to handle both of them at the show?
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by green_comet » 25 Jun 2018, 1:30 pm

pappaszx9 wrote:The Lithgow looks and feels like a great gun but the T1X I liked just that bit more.


What was it about the Tikka that you liked? I'm currently looking to get my first gun (a 22LR) and I've been looking at both of these and the CZ455.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by winton » 29 Jun 2018, 2:36 pm

I've seen the Steyr zepher 2. Its a CZ clone, but it oozes quality. Has anyone shot these yet?
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by pappaszx9 » 03 Jul 2018, 3:39 pm

in2anity wrote:
pappaszx9 wrote:Thanks for everyone's recommendations! I went to the Shot Expo over the weekend and ended up buying a Tikka T1x. I ended up narrowing it down to the Lithgow LA101 and the Tikka. The Lithgow looks and feels like a great gun but the T1X I liked just that bit more.

pappa did yu get to handle both of them at the show?


Yes mate got to hold both, they had a good deal on the Tikka. I also liked the bolt on the Tikka better. You could hear that the Lithgow had grooves in the bolt left from when they machined it. I think this would bother me after a while. I know it's being picky but it didn't feel as smooth as the Tikka.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by pappaszx9 » 03 Jul 2018, 3:45 pm

Stix wrote::thumbsup:
Let us know how its shoots...


Could be the end of the month before I get it. . One of the guys showing the guns told me they had 1400 pre-orders?!?! Not sure how true that is though?

My cousin has the Lithgow, so will try and test them side by side, not that I will really be a good judge of quality as I've only shot a handful of guns.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by pappaszx9 » 03 Jul 2018, 3:52 pm

green_comet wrote:
pappaszx9 wrote:The Lithgow looks and feels like a great gun but the T1X I liked just that bit more.


What was it about the Tikka that you liked? I'm currently looking to get my first gun (a 22LR) and I've been looking at both of these and the CZ455.


As above mate, I liked the bolt on the Tikka better. Also They had a show special on the T1X that came with scope, torch, bipod, bag, bolt knob and sling, whereas the Lithgow didn't have any specials. To be honest I didn't look too hard at the CZ as I think I decided prior that I wanted the Lithgow or Tikka.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by in2anity » 03 Jul 2018, 3:55 pm

pappaszx9 wrote:
in2anity wrote:
pappaszx9 wrote:Thanks for everyone's recommendations! I went to the Shot Expo over the weekend and ended up buying a Tikka T1x. I ended up narrowing it down to the Lithgow LA101 and the Tikka. The Lithgow looks and feels like a great gun but the T1X I liked just that bit more.

pappa did yu get to handle both of them at the show?
You could hear that the Lithgow had grooves in the bolt left from when they machined it. I think this would bother me after a while. I know it's being picky but it didn't feel as smooth as the Tikka.


For the record, I can tell you with 100% certainty that "grittiness" slicks up with time - my buddy and I regularly shoot LA101s in comp, and after a couple of thousand rounds, they become silky smooth. In a way I was kind of sad, as it meant she wasn't brand spanking new anymore! Also for the record, the LA101's accuracy only improves with age...

Not that I'm trying to talk you out of the t1x - I have a t3 CTR centerfire (which I also use for comp), and I absolutely adore it. The thing is insanely accurate, buttery smooth and 100% reliable. I'd be very surprised if the t1x does not follow suit.
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by SCJ429 » 03 Jul 2018, 6:57 pm

In what sort of competition do you use your Tikka CTR? What caliber is that chambered in?
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Re: Just starting- recommendations on a 22 rifle

Post by in2anity » 03 Jul 2018, 7:20 pm

SCJ429 wrote:In what sort of competition do you use your Tikka CTR? What caliber is that chambered in?

It’s a silhouette build chambered in 308, which I’ve also shot a bit of invitational 3p with. Anyways point is, from what I’ve gathered, the t1x is the same stock as the t3x, so the feel of the tikkas is one-in-same (which is a damn good thing!)
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