How do Roo Tags Work?

[MG5150]

Hi All

I was on my way to a mate's place for a fox shoot early Jan and noticed that one of his neighbours had a few cows on the wrong side of the fence. I called the number on the gate, which luckily was the landowner and helped him and his wife get them in.

When it came up why I was randomly outside their property, I let him know I was on my way to my mates down the road for a fox shoot.

Their eyes lit up and they asked me if I did deer and roos. I told them I do deer and would do roos if they had the tags. They've got tags and need someone to shoot them.

So I'll be heading up their this week and seeing what I can do. I've never done roo shooting before and wanted to know from anyone with the experience how the tags work, and any specifics of what I should be doing or questions I should be asking?

All help is appreciated.

[Wapiti]

Call your crazy states environmental department for all you need to know.
I've gotten thousands of tags here in Qld, but to muddy the water about what happens down there, no.
Here, tags are allocated for commercial purposes, based on assessments of numbers.
For you, a DMP might be better, and free. A Damage Mitigation Permit here is issued to farmers only, also based on numbers left over from tags not sold. You don't need tags in this instance, only keeping full records of animals take, sex, number per day etc up until your quota is met.
Then you must lodge the paperwork at the end of the allocated period.
The animals cannot be sold or utilised whatsoever.
Pretty dumb, but that's activist latte sipping government for you.

The question I've got is, why? It's a sh*t of a job, young always in pouches, follow ups, anyone who says they like it has in my eyes, a serious mental concern.
Helping others? They should be getting firearms licenses themselves and dealing with their own problems, and then finding out for themselves what political trash they should stop voting for and how much hell you're going through.

[Finniss]

https://www.vic.gov.au/authority-contro ... -your-atcw

I'd have a look through the application and guides for the Authority to Control. Ask to see their permit as you will be acting as their agent and must comply with the conditions and code of practice.

[MG5150]

Call your crazy states environmental department for all you need to know.
I've gotten thousands of tags here in Qld, but to muddy the water about what happens down there, no.
Here, tags are allocated for commercial purposes, based on assessments of numbers.
For you, a DMP might be better, and free. A Damage Mitigation Permit here is issued to farmers only, also based on numbers left over from tags not sold. You don't need tags in this instance, only keeping full records of animals take, sex, number per day etc up until your quota is met.
Then you must lodge the paperwork at the end of the allocated period.
The animals cannot be sold or utilised whatsoever.
Pretty dumb, but that's activist latte sipping government for you.

The question I've got is, why? It's a sh*t of a job, young always in pouches, follow ups, anyone who says they like it has in my eyes, a serious mental concern.
Helping others? They should be getting firearms licenses themselves and dealing with their own problems, and then finding out for themselves what political trash they should stop voting for and how much hell you're going through.

Thanks for the advice.
I'm doing the farmer a service and earning some brownie points so that I can come and shoot foxes and deer, as well as getting some experience under my belt and hopefully a few more referrals to other landholders in the area.

Being a city boy I've got the guns, but not the land and this might be a valuable foot in the door.

[tuknal]

Hi All

I was on my way to a mate's place for a fox shoot early Jan and noticed that one of his neighbours had a few cows on the wrong side of the fence. I called the number on the gate, which luckily was the landowner and helped him and his wife get them in.

When it came up why I was randomly outside their property, I let him know I was on my way to my mates down the road for a fox shoot.

Their eyes lit up and they asked me if I did deer and roos. I told them I do deer and would do roos if they had the tags. They've got tags and need someone to shoot them.

So I'll be heading up their this week and seeing what I can do. I've never done roo shooting before and wanted to know from anyone with the experience how the tags work, and any specifics of what I should be doing or questions I should be asking?

All help is appreciated.

it all depends on what state your in ,, and you need to be accredited to do it legally , yes even with drop tags (non commercial tags) they must be tagged and left where they lay, head shot only and theres rules on dealing with pouch young too look up the code of conduct ,, ,,,MSG me if you need more info or look up your states governing body ie national parks office

[tuknal]

Call your crazy states environmental department for all you need to know.
I've gotten thousands of tags here in Qld, but to muddy the water about what happens down there, no.
Here, tags are allocated for commercial purposes, based on assessments of numbers.
For you, a DMP might be better, and free. A Damage Mitigation Permit here is issued to farmers only, also based on numbers left over from tags not sold. You don't need tags in this instance, only keeping full records of animals take, sex, number per day etc up until your quota is met.
Then you must lodge the paperwork at the end of the allocated period.
The animals cannot be sold or utilised whatsoever.
Pretty dumb, but that's activist latte sipping government for you.

The question I've got is, why? It's a sh*t of a job, young always in pouches, follow ups, anyone who says they like it has in my eyes, a serious mental concern.
Helping others? They should be getting firearms licenses themselves and dealing with their own problems, and then finding out for themselves what political trash they should stop voting for and how much hell you're going through.

Really !!!
im not saying its great (i do it for income)
if your always shooting does with pouch young youd better get you identification skills up to speed
and if your always needing follow up shots get your shooting skills up to speed cos you have no business doing this
FFS this is why i get the s**ts ,,farmers couldnt be f***ed after working all day going out for another 5hr to shoot roos
then they let ppl on to shoot ,mostly scaring /wounding as many as they shoot ,then wonder why pro shooter dont want to show up cos you cant get near the things anymore

sorry to MG5150 im not saying that this is your situation or that implies thats what youll do ,but it gets frustrating

[Late_Starter]

In SA the destruction permit is only given to the property owner. If you are shooting for a farmer you have to be a nominated shooter on the destruction permit. In SA tags are only required if you are removing the carcass from the property for personal use, meat, skins dog food etc. There are a different set of tags for professional roo shooters which I do not know anything about. I shoot for a farmer and she has my name put on the permit when she applies for it.

[wrenchman]

it is sad they just don't issue regular tags and the animals can be donated or used as seen fit many deer get donated to food banks and soup kitchens here.
It is a social thing here that if they are being killed that they get used as best as possible and I wont judge I don't know much about roos and most of my thoughts are from seeing videos were they were shot and hung up to be cut up or shipped out for meat.

[deye243]

Unless they change the system Victoria no such thing as a tag I used to fill out all the paperwork for the cockies drop it off that Sparks and Embers then they would receive a permit with a number on it then the last two permits that were put in farmer had to do everything online and prove what he had done on kangaroo mitigation before they would do the permit and of course it has changed now where it's all online by somebody a couple hundred kilometers away with no local knowledge so it can be problematic but the cocky will get an email with the permit on it you just have to read it and generally on a couple of thousand acres you'll get one for 60 it's up to you to keep numbers no one checks on it .

[bladeracer]

Unless they change the system Victoria no such thing as a tag I used to fill out all the paperwork for the cockies drop it off that Sparks and Embers then they would receive a permit with a number on it then the last two permits that were put in farmer had to do everything online and prove what he had done on kangaroo mitigation before they would do the permit and of course it has changed now where it's all online by somebody a couple hundred kilometers away with no local knowledge so it can be problematic but the cocky will get an email with the permit on it you just have to read it and generally on a couple of thousand acres you'll get one for 60 it's up to you to keep numbers no one checks on it .

Our neighbour had a roo shooter in just before Christmas, he only took 15 roos, but also nailed two fallow. Another couple years of deer population migration and I should be shooting deer on my own properties. Everybody needs to convince all their shooting mates to get out in the bush chasing deer, we need to get on top of their numbers.

[Col]

In NSW the landholder applies for a "Licence to Harm Kangaroos" and then nominates you as a shooter attached to the licence. There are no tags issued, because they are not used commercially. The meat can be used by the property owner for dog meat etc, but not sold commercially.
The landholder will then need to fill in a return sheet saying how many were shot, species and by whom, if not by the landholder.
Commercial roo shooters can also shoot the same property at the same time, but they are under different rules regarding tagging. Non Commercial licences do not need tags.

As an aside, the landholder can get permits for emus also. We have permits for both at the moment. Pigs and foxes are vermin and do not need permits and I am not sure on deer. I think this depends on the LLS region.

[Billo]

Call your crazy states environmental department for all you need to know.
I've gotten thousands of tags here in Qld, but to muddy the water about what happens down there, no.
Here, tags are allocated for commercial purposes, based on assessments of numbers.
For you, a DMP might be better, and free. A Damage Mitigation Permit here is issued to farmers only, also based on numbers left over from tags not sold. You don't need tags in this instance, only keeping full records of animals take, sex, number per day etc up until your quota is met.
Then you must lodge the paperwork at the end of the allocated period.
The animals cannot be sold or utilised whatsoever.
Pretty dumb, but that's activist latte sipping government for you.

The question I've got is, why? It's a sh*t of a job, young always in pouches, follow ups, anyone who says they like it has in my eyes, a serious mental concern.
Helping others? They should be getting firearms licenses themselves and dealing with their own problems, and then finding out for themselves what political trash they should stop voting for and how much hell you're going through.

Really !!!
im not saying its great (i do it for income)
if your always shooting does with pouch young youd better get you identification skills up to speed
and if your always needing follow up shots get your shooting skills up to speed cos you have no business doing this
FFS this is why i get the s**ts ,,farmers couldnt be f***ed after working all day going out for another 5hr to shoot roos
then they let ppl on to shoot ,mostly scaring /wounding as many as they shoot ,then wonder why pro shooter dont want to show up cos you cant get near the things anymore

sorry to MG5150 im not saying that this is your situation or that implies thats what youll do ,but it gets frustrating

Just ignore the troll, he likes to attack other shooter s because of his small man mentality.

If you've seen first hand the devastation 2-3000 migrating roos cause to the last farmer who's done the right thing during a drought and kept some pasture for his stock then you understand it's just a job that's needs to be done, there's nothing pretty here but castigating fellow shooters is just poor form.

[MG5150]

Unless they change the system Victoria no such thing as a tag I used to fill out all the paperwork for the cockies drop it off that Sparks and Embers then they would receive a permit with a number on it then the last two permits that were put in farmer had to do everything online and prove what he had done on kangaroo mitigation before they would do the permit and of course it has changed now where it's all online by somebody a couple hundred kilometers away with no local knowledge so it can be problematic but the cocky will get an email with the permit on it you just have to read it and generally on a couple of thousand acres you'll get one for 60 it's up to you to keep numbers no one checks on it .

Apparently roo numbers are way up in Vic and they've made it easier to get permits as many were complaining about how convuluted it had gotten.

They have extended it from 15 to 100 (or 15 per paddock) the block I'm going to shoot for has 200 tags

[bladeracer]

Apparently roo numbers are way up in Vic and they've made it easier to get permits as many were complaining about how convuluted it had gotten.

They have extended it from 15 to 100 (or 15 per paddock) the block I'm going to shoot for has 200 tags

I think my neighbour said he had permissions to remove 55 roos, but the shooter found the paddocks a bit steep so he bailed after taking fifteen, plus two deer. I'm not sure if he's supposed to come back at some time, but this was a few weeks ago and he hasn't returned yet.

[Wapiti]

Just ignore the troll, he likes to attack other shooter s because of his small man mentality.

If you've seen first hand the devastation 2-3000 migrating roos cause to the last farmer who's done the right thing during a drought and kept some pasture for his stock then you understand it's just a job that's needs to be done, there's nothing pretty here but castigating fellow shooters is just poor form.

A troll is a pretender who follows someone around online, desperate to discredit them as a mask for their own failed life.
You, mate.

There's something seriously wrong with you, is it because I actually get out there and have a go, and you're the lounge lizard? You can change that but it takes effort, that's the problem mate eh?
I've got a 200-Euro/Wallaroo permit here now, but NOT because I get any joy from it. Unlike you, I am directly affected.

The point was why anyone not directly affected would ever want to do it because of how distasteful it is, I certainly don't like it, and it's my right to say so.

About time you post something about shooting mate, if you actually do any, instead of feverishly trying to elevate yourself from your bitterness couch with the abuse of others.

[Billo]

For someone who has so much too say, what you do end up saying has so little value.

Wapiti you strike me as someone who feels burdened by the responsibilities of owning a bush block, as for your wallaroo mates, maybe feed em some more cotton seed and then you won't need to feel guilty.

[Wapiti]

Mate I'm only offering the opinion of someone affected directly, who deals with this every day. Trying to tell me your opinion of what you think of my situation is pointless, only you and your alter-ego do that.
My opinion is going to be different from someone like yourself, and you aren't going to change it. Others here take it for what it is, and I've made a few great friends here who've been really kind to me with offers and help, completely unlike you, so it's been really rewarding.
AND I get to see why my peers reject your kind more and more, unfortunately tarring everyone with the same brush.
I would say, give it a rest, but I really don't think you have anything else to do.
I didn't ever realise I was such a polarising and magnetic personality to your type. It's quite flattering.
Again I have to stress, I'm only into the ladies, if that's your corner.
Over to you.

[tuknal]

Just ignore the troll, he likes to attack other shooter s because of his small man mentality.

If you've seen first hand the devastation 2-3000 migrating roos cause to the last farmer who's done the right thing during a drought and kept some pasture for his stock then you understand it's just a job that's needs to be done, there's nothing pretty here but castigating fellow shooters is just poor form.

A troll is a pretender who follows someone around online, desperate to discredit them as a mask for their own failed life.
You, mate.

There's something seriously wrong with you, is it because I actually get out there and have a go, and you're the lounge lizard? You can change that but it takes effort, that's the problem mate eh?
I've got a 200-Euro/Wallaroo permit here now, but NOT because I get any joy from it. Unlike you, I am directly affected.

The point was why anyone not directly affected would ever want to do it because of how distasteful it is, I certainly don't like it, and it's my right to say so.

About time you post something about shooting mate, if you actually do any, instead of feverishly trying to elevate yourself from your bitterness couch with the abuse of others.

no offence but 200 tags is F all ,,
also how is shooting roos any different/distasteful to shooting deer/pigs/goats/foxes/rabbits ?? and deer F me why do ppl hold them with such high esteem they are just another feral animal under the banner of game animal bulls**t to serve somes ego,,they do taste good but

as billo said wait till you see 2 /3000 odd move in
i see this all the time ,cocky says to me, mate are you shooting a few ,i says yeah ,they say oh well come out home theres a few getting around ,,i say oh yeah how many are we talking (because i know where they live and the size of the place) theres a mob of about 60
honestly some of the farmers i talk to wouldnt know what a real roo problem was