A few less ferals

[Member-Deleted]

Howl OB I have heard of blokes using a injured rabbit caller but took forever to bring them close if you've seen tracks on various occasions then it most likely will be its watering hole so with a camera and a bit of bait you should turn up something in a short time with the dry and all when putting a bait down try not to touch it with bare hands or walk around bare foot near the bait I to put boots on when laying baits and traps other than that i'm bare foot don't think a dog will drop its guard after coming the first time it will be edgy for a few goes but if you're on the ball you will get him first up just don't let it wind you or see you because it may not come back it'll go to an alternative watering hole ,what I do is shoot a bait take it 100yds away up wind open it up then drag it back to the watering hole this will decide the most likely way the dog will come in as it will follow the scent trail but I have had the odd dog come in on floating scent in the breeze from a different direction so be aware of that and be prepared for that when you bed down make sure you are concealed all round you then the old ''Patience is a doggers friend'' Boredom is a doggers friend although if you know dogs are in the area you won't get bored if dogging is for you

[RoginaJack]

Hay, OB a mate of mine has downloaded a few MP3 calls to his mobile phone and got a external speaker from JB HIFi and uses that.

The free calls can be got of the net or check out FoxPro site.
Good hunting....

[Die Judicii]

Good advice always comes from GDB

A couple of points he taught me, but missed saying this time are,,,

1) if at all possible drive (4x4 or ute or quad) to the drop off point with a bait carcass rather than walking and leaving your scent.

2) if you have to walk, wipe the soles of your boots with a rag dampened with diesel just before.

[Oldbloke]

Good advice always comes from GDB

A couple of points he taught me, but missed saying this time are,,,

1) if at all possible drive (4x4 or ute or quad) to the drop off point with a bait carcass rather than walking and leaving your scent.

2) if you have to walk, wipe the soles of your boots with a rag dampened with diesel just before.

Yeh, i was thinking of dragging the bait by the ute for a few hundred yards. Im limited on bait as its state forest, probably rabbit or road kill. So may need to wire it to tree.

Diesel seems odd? What about stepping in roo s**t or eucalyptus spray?

Need to scout a bit more but limited info indicates a regular visitor to a particular dam.

[Die Judicii]

They don't seem to be perturbed at all by the scent of diesel.

Also,,, the more scouting around you do, the more scent you leave, plus they don't take kindly to lots of traffic ie: yourself walking back and forth.

[Oldbloke]

They don't seem to be perturbed at all by the scent of diesel. Mmmmmm OK


Also,,, the more scouting around you do, the more scent you leave, plus they don't take kindly to lots of traffic ie: yourself walking back and forth.

That makes it challenging.

Might drop into jbhifi, see about a speaker. Was thinking about it anyway.

[Blr243]

Old bloke I got a good tip for u regarding speakers. Originally I purchased a round one about the size of an orange for home or jobsite use. It makes sense to have it pumping out noise in all directions. But for specifically hunting I bought a different shape from jb hifi. I wanted something that would sit flat in My mini back back ( large camel back type thingy) so it would be comfortable when carrying I also wanted it to sit flat in a pocket. So I bought one that’s shaped like a pack of cigarettes If you are holding your phone in your hand to operate sounds on an app it will Bluetooth directly to the speaker that’s in your pocket thus being simple to operate and minimise hand movements.....there have been times when calling pigs real close I have not had a chance to use the external speaker and just the volume on the phone was heaps but calling dogs way off I know my phone on its own won’t cut it.

[Oldbloke]

OK, to sum up in point form.

- PATIENCE
- Drag baits to lay a scent trail
- Watch wind and movement.
-Ambush using baits and at water points
- Use gloves to handle baits, dead animals, dog s**t, or piss, cans of tuna
- Howling better than whistles, moans, barks, howls, snuffs
- Breeding April to May. (Best for howling)
- Diesel on shoe soles to cover scent?
- 22 hornet minimum. 223 and up. 12g 2s to SSGs?
- Too much activity makes them skitish.

[Member-Deleted]

OB I wouldn't use eucalyptus oil its too strong dogs don't like it you can use a branch from the tree but not the straight oil I use a hessian bag sprayed with diesel and wipe my feet on it then fold it up and throw it in the back had it for many years

[Oldbloke]

Deleted eucalyptus

[Member-Deleted]

Yep but you forgot ''PATIENCE'' big contribute to dog hunting

[Member-Deleted]

Good luck OB hope it goes well for you after all this mate

[Oldbloke]

Ill be in the area in about a week. Will have a crack then. But there are fires there now.

[Die Judicii]

Ill be in the area in about a week. Will have a crack then. But there are fires there now.

Your at the good time of the year,,,,,,,,,, (summer)
And as GDB said,,,,, patience,,,,, patience,,,,,,,patience,,,,,

Try it in the middle of winter when the temp gets below zero, especially just before dawn when you've already been sitting almost motionless
for the last 8 or 9 hours.

At least in summer your main need down there would be mosquito netting.

[marksman]

a lot of what you guys are talking about can be transferable to hunting other animals
this is the sort of thing you dont get from the magazines

[sungazer]

I prefer the cold to the hot. Always easier to keep warm in the Aussie temps than cool. The direct sunlight just burns. I think it is a much prettier time in the bush as well.

[Oldbloke]

"in summer your main need down there would be mosquito netting. "

I use that all the time now.

[Member-Deleted]

I've found in summer when the grass is almost nil and dry the dry ground gets a dead smell about it the dogs tend to rely on sight and scent in the wind but in the good months where grass and weeds are plenty and green then when you walk through it it sends out its own aromas and a dog or animal for that matter will pick up on these aromas and know there is something moving around and will become alert making it difficult to creep up on them some people think the animal has seen them or heard them when it's the aromas of freshly crushed grass and weeds or as simple as breaking of a twig so as to see better, lantana is a dead give away when brushed against it emits a strong odour when crushed or brushed so just something to think about this is why sitting in ambush is to me the best it gives the smells time to settle and return to normal

[Stix]

I prefer the cold to the hot. Always easier to keep warm in the Aussie temps than cool. The direct sunlight just burns. I think it is a much prettier time in the bush as well.

Smells/odours hang around close to the ground stronger & for longer in heavy cold moist air...

[Member-Deleted]

Yeah Stix sounds like an eskimo brothel hey

[Oldbloke]

I read somewhere that direct UV kills smell.

[Member-Deleted]

Yeah well ya got me there OB but a dead roo on the side of the road still stinks bad to me

[Oldbloke]

I read somewhere that direct UV kills smell.

GDB, to clarify. When we or animals walk around our feet leave some scent. I read that after say,, 2 or 3 hours the sunshine eliminates/reduces the scent.

Hanging clothes in sunshine same.

I think the theory is, and its well known UV kills bacteria. Bacteria are the main sources of odour.

A dead roo would be genersting far more bacteria than the sunshine would be killing. And most of the bacteria would be out of the sunsine, protected.

[Member-Deleted]

Yeah OB the fresher the scent the better it is to pick up and most likely the sun would break it down then on another side the hotter the day the more odour the body emits and I see what you are saying about the roo

[Blr243]

My night clothes (black shorts and T-shirt’s)get a bit skanky stinky and feral after a few days hunting . I remember one night somehow being in the wrong position in a paddock in relation to the wind and eventually I got into a favourable wind position and made a successful stalk .. I was extremely surprised that they did not wind me in the process The only thing I could put it down to is that it was cold and I was that night well covered in fresh clean clothes that must have contained enough of my scent to keep me unoticed..... so it pays to stay clean

[Die Judicii]

Yeah OB the fresher the scent the better it is to pick up and most likely the sun would break it down then on another side the hotter the day the more odour the body emits and I see what you are saying about the roo

Are we in fact opening up new ground in a yet to be fully explored new science ????????


On that note,,,, I think I'd better get back to living again, and head out bush.
Haven't been out for a month now,,,, although every day lately is stinking hot, and the constant smoke haze is akin to a battle field.

[Oldbloke]

Haven't been out for a month now,,,, although every day lately is stinking hot, and the constant smoke haze is akin to a battle field.

Due to a family illness I have not been out yet. Dont expect to for at least a few weeks either.

Has anyone else been out?

[Blr243]

I had a plan to be slack over the hot period , forget the major pig trips and just do a day or two dingo hunting close to home but I’m so glad I changed my mind. The heat has not at all been a killer. Mostly I was too lazy to set up up my air con but today I did. And tomorrow is my last day so I might as well use it seeing it’s set up at the entrance to my tent. To hell with the heat I’ll b back out here end Of January when we have a really dark week with no moon .... this trip has been my most successful for a bloody long time.

[Ricochet]

Its more known in the bow hunting world but some gear lncluding boots have some sort of silver nitrate treatment permeated through some of the materials as an anti-bacterial agent to eliminate smells, there are anti smell detergents that also have no phosphates in them to reduce the glow reportedly seen by some animals too.
But as far as scent trails go we shed skin particles all the time, if we could visualise smell, just picture one of those hippy images of auras were there are bands of colour radiating outwards from the human form, its sort if like that, and picture the color being left behind you floating in the air as you walk, on the ground and on everything you touch. These clouds of particles we leave behind us are slowly dissipated by wind and killed off by sunlight, this is what spooks animals and what tracker fogs follow hunting down your deer for you or what a police dog follows from the scene if a crime.

[Oldbloke]

Yep, about the best we can do is reduce or partly mask our scent. So still rely on the wind.

Here is an old thread.

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