243 Ackley for long range foxes

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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by TassieTiger » 28 May 2019, 12:01 am

So it’s like the hsv section of shooting world? Lol.
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by GQshayne » 28 May 2019, 7:54 pm

TassieTiger wrote:Who is this ackerley fella and if his developments are so poo hot - why are “standard” cartridges of the same no more popular ? If it’s an extra couple hundred FPS - would it not be easier to look at a different but more main stream cartridge? As a relative newbie, I’m genuinely confused - surely the “better” (ie more efficient and accurate) cartridges eventually become the norm /mainstream...ie 6.5 Cm...if the AI’s are as good as spruiked, what went wrong? Poor marketing? Performance conjecture??


I think the other issue is that Ackley did most of his work, many, many years ago, and some of the claims never quite added up to the hype. Some of the cartridges are quite good, others not so. In some instances it is only a difference of 100-200 fps. As you can see, such a gain for a field rifle is not as important as other factors, such as projectiles, powder, or the biggest factor of all, the shooter.
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by marksman » 28 May 2019, 9:00 pm

here's one for sale for the price of the barrel job
http://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/69498 ... ckley.html
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by Bill » 28 May 2019, 9:00 pm

A mate use a 6mm/250 for his roo shooting gig and head shots at 250-300m are predictable.

A 243 would have a little more and the AI even more but noise would also increase.

A simple choice really lol
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by straightshooter » 29 May 2019, 9:15 am

Strikey wrote:Yeah nah, the 250 Savage gains the most performance for the extra capacity of any of the Ackley Improved family. Modern powders help this little cartridge achieve velocities without "insane" pressures, I use Winchester brass and some are approaching 20 odd firings, admittedly some have been reasonably mild but I have loaded 120SPBT and Berger115VLD to 3100fps with no issue. I have owned a 25/06,will take a 250Ackley everyday, less powder, less blast/noise and possibly better consistent accuracy. The 250AI is not a myth :thumbsup:


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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by Member-Deleted » 29 May 2019, 10:36 am

I have a Hyem 30-06 rebarreled to 22-250 AI I only shoot one at a time it's a good gun 26'' s/s barrel I shoot 60gn only out of it one thing you must understand is your only going to get a few fps on top of a standard 22-250 then you have to hand load for it then on top of that you have to fire form the brass which is an extra cost for loading almost double I fire form my brass with a lower load than the one I normally use but its still a projectile, powder ,primer, time that you wouldn't use with a standard caliber there are calibers out there that are fast that you can buy brass for or buy tools to shape brass for that caliber rather than a caliber that you have to fire form to fire form you could almost expect twice the cost to a conventional caliber or a caliber that you can buy brass for or shape with dies
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by Baronvonrort » 31 May 2019, 12:03 am

There is a much cheaper solution to fireforming brass, you need one of these dies and a primer in the brass.

A video on how to do it here- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCqb_7UYh9k
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by bigrich » 31 May 2019, 5:06 am

Looking at ballistic charts, 243, 25-06 and 270 win are some of the flattest shooting caliber that are commercially available. For the distance at foxes, and the other stuff the poster wants to shoot ,I reckon 25-06 would do me
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Re: 243 Ackley for long range foxes

Post by Member-Deleted » 31 May 2019, 11:07 am

Yeah I agree with bigrich but it all depends on what you want although I would be sticking with a conventional type caliber one of these 3 mainly for availability of brass and projectiles for way out if you want speed i'd go small projectile giving you speed but on saying that by stepping up the speed it will mess with barrel life in the end and any of these 3 will shoot further and more than accurate enough for any shooters ability to harvest ferals a well set up 22-250 is good for 300-500yds for shooters it's getting to know your rifle and being able to shoot well with it you can have the fastest rifle the most accurate and hardest hitting caliber but if you can't shoot it well then its ability is lost and the cost is still there
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