xDom wrote:This topic has been mentioned before. I did some searching through old threads but couldn't really see what I was after.
How much attention do you pay to a possible ricochet before taking a shot.?
I've heard the lighter faster rounds are more likely to crumble and the shallower an angle the more likely it is to ricochet off at the opposing shallow angle.
I've also heard that a team of scientists wouldn't be capable of working out where the bullet is gonna go.
Specifically, a .223 from 100-150 yds shooting into a heavily rocky area in an otherwise empty paddock, do I need to be concerned?
trekin wrote:Wasn't he an Irish sniper?
RoginaJack wrote:A 22lr would be the worst offender.
xDom wrote:".. but you can have distance between you and a ricochet that's what needs to be considered"
So the idea of putting down an injured animal at point blank or near on point blank is to be very carefully considered?
bladeracer wrote:RoginaJack wrote:A 22lr would be the worst offender.
Not the worst due the lack of bullet mass, but between lost velocity and bullet deformation, any .22LR ricochet is not likely to go very far at all, and have little energy left when it lands.
RoginaJack wrote:Take your word for the "lack of bullet mass" as I'm not keen to stand around and test your theory.
On old boxes of 22 ammo, along with a target, the warning was the 22 had a range of 1.5 miles.
bladeracer wrote:RoginaJack wrote:Take your word for the "lack of bullet mass" as I'm not keen to stand around and test your theory.
On old boxes of 22 ammo, along with a target, the warning was the 22 had a range of 1.5 miles.
Yes, for a bullet fired into the sky at the optimum angle at full power with perfect BC, although I think it was still way over-stated. Take away the velocity lost from bouncing off something, even more if the bullet went through something first, the extra drag of a deformed bullet, and the fact that you probably didn't aim it into the sky.
A quick calculation with the CCI Std Velocity fired at 25-degrees into the sky gives it a maximum possible range of 1100 meters (where the bullet lands at a similar altitude as it was fired from). As most field shooting is far more likely to be within a few degrees of horizontal, or downhill, even if the bullet misses everything, it's still going to fall to the ground within a few hundred meters. And, CCI SV won't penetrate a corrugated steel shed past about 600m even at full-power.
bigfellascott wrote:Exactly! those warnings are for a perfectly formed projectile shot at an exact angle with perfect conditions etc etc, a ricocheted projectile is far from that!
marksman wrote:I should add that a ricochete apparently ricochets off faster than the bullet leaving the barrel
so I have been led to believe
marksman wrote:I should add that a ricochete apparently ricochets off faster than the bullet leaving the barrel
so I have been led to believe
marksman wrote:I should add that a ricochete apparently ricochets off faster than the bullet leaving the barrel
so I have been led to believe
bladeracer wrote:marksman wrote:I should add that a ricochete apparently ricochets off faster than the bullet leaving the barrel
so I have been led to believe
I'd love to see how they came up with that
So I fire a bullet at 1080fps, and 600m down the track, when it's down to about 500fps, it bounces off a rock at more than double that speed?
marksman wrote::lol:
its being taught at the firearm safety courses
bladeracer wrote:marksman wrote::lol:
its being taught at the firearm safety courses
I was impressed with the general lack of understanding of the instructors when I did the course.
One guy was talking about using the wrong ammunition, "What would you expect if you accidentally chamber a .270 in a .30-06?"
"A fire-formed .30-06 case?" was my response, he really had no idea what would happen, but just assumed it would be bad.
xDom wrote:“..The same physics say that a bullet rises after it leaves the barrel...”
What’s the story with this comment? I’ve heard it before.
I heard that if a .223 is fired horizontally, at 25m and 200m it’ll be at the same height.
Is this right?