6.5 Grendel?

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6.5 Grendel?

Post by andym79 » 12 Aug 2019, 12:50 pm

Hi has anyone got experience of hunting over 300 yards with the Grendel?

If so is it much good at that range? I am thinking of getting one as its a neat efficient and supposedly accurate cartridge, but I am concerned its too much gun for foxes, rabbits etc, but maybe not enough for say goats at range.

Will it be suitable or would a 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5x55 be the right choice?
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Post by groundhog » 12 Aug 2019, 4:59 pm

I have one that I use around the farm. It has taken Deer, Pigs, Rabbits, Foxes and Roos. It is extremely accurate and will run a range of different projectiles. I haven't used it on game further than 200 odd meters.

A couple of mates of mine play with it in silhouette and it will take rams at 500m more than 50% of the time, but a lot of that is down to shot placement and projectile choice. I shot mine one afternoon at Majura at a C/F rifle turkey at 385m, hit it at the top of the leg with a 90gn speer TNT which promptly exploded leaving the target standing.
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Post by JimTom » 12 Aug 2019, 7:01 pm

Mate just my personal opinion but I have a Creedmoor and I think that it would perhaps be more suitable for hunting at the ranges you have mentioned. In saying that, I don’t have first hand experience with the Grendel, I have just had a look at the load data. I load 95gn projectiles for smaller game and the 143gn for distance shooting pigs.
I think the Grendel is a interesting round. I would be particularly interested in owning one in a CZ527. Let us know what you decide mate.
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Post by SCJ429 » 12 Aug 2019, 8:11 pm

I use a 6mm BR and a 7mm BR in hunting rifles, shooting at longer ranges is not playing to their strenghts. they are accurate and i have shot goats and pigs out past 200. the Swede and Creedmoor are far more capable at distances past 300. if you want the best of both worlds i would chamber it in 6.5x47 Lapua.

the 243 with a 1:8 twist would be a safer bet than a Grendel at longer ranges. Get a Grendel for shorter ranges and a 300 WSM for those longer shots.
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Post by Bill » 12 Aug 2019, 8:52 pm

shot a few thing with the grendel out to 200 and it does the job, not had the opportunity to shot things at extended ranges but i have no doubt it would work fine out to 300. Similar velocity to factory 243 Win, 250 savage

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Post by bigrich » 13 Aug 2019, 4:50 am

I’ve used 6.5x55 on goat at varying range , from as close as 30 yards to a estimated 220yards on a ridge line and with 140sst Hornadys it flattens them instantly providing the shot is the front chest area of coarse. It’s overkill for goats, a 243 would be better, but this rifle also is for deer and pigs. 120’s out of this caliber can shoot very flat and up around 2950fps, 2810fps for the 140’s out of my rifle. I’ve recently started playing with a 243, and this flat shooting rifle is becoming a favourite for lighter game and distance shooting as the recoil is milder and uses less powder. Cheers
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Post by TassieTiger » 13 Aug 2019, 5:24 am

This guy is claiming retention of almost 2000fps at 500 yards...
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Post by Bill » 13 Aug 2019, 8:59 am

if low noise and low recoil is desirable then a Grendel might be for you, 243 is just too blasty for me thou it is flatter than the 260 and Creedmoor out to 400m. 6.5 creedmoor needs lots of pressure and barrel length and it still doesnt match what can be achieved with a 260 or a Swede....... :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 13 Aug 2019, 9:16 am

In the scheme of things, Grendel is a 6.5 caliber hornet :P . Hornets have their uses but :)

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Post by Bill » 13 Aug 2019, 9:24 am

gee I dont know bigrich, a wonderfully frustrating cartridge the old hornet......more lemons than lemonade :lol:

the Grendel just does it.... and only a 100 or so feet behind the 6.5 Britney (aka Creedmoor) :o
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Post by andym79 » 13 Aug 2019, 2:56 pm

I take it you mean with the same length barrel? As most creedmoor have a barrel 6" or more longer than the grendel and get a fair bit more than 100.

From what I have looked at so far though the creedmoor is only a fair bit better with 140 grns
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Post by marksman » 13 Aug 2019, 7:00 pm

andy, mate, dont be shy
just go straight for the 6.5x284 :lol:
the best 6.5 ever made :wtf:
check this utube vid out :thumbsup:
all shots are 6.5x284 :lol:
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Post by bigrich » 13 Aug 2019, 7:13 pm

marksman wrote:andy, mate, dont be shy
just go straight for the 6.5x284 :lol:
the best 6.5 ever made :wtf:
check this utube vid out :thumbsup:
all shots are 6.5x284 :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taRMw9NN8CU


go ya one better MM, 264 win mag ! :P i really want to build one, even though it doesn't have a practical use for me ;)

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Post by JimTom » 13 Aug 2019, 7:14 pm

marksman wrote:andy, mate, dont be shy
just go straight for the 6.5x284 :lol:
the best 6.5 ever made :wtf:
check this utube vid out :thumbsup:
all shots are 6.5x284 :lol:
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Quite impressive by anyone’s standards. No doubt an extremely capable round but I suspect you would be changing out the barrel with every magazine change. Well not quite but I’m sure you get my drift.
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Post by bigrich » 13 Aug 2019, 7:18 pm

Bill wrote:gee I dont know bigrich, a wonderfully frustrating cartridge the old hornet......more lemons than lemonade :lol:

the Grendel just does it.... and only a 100 or so feet behind the 6.5 Britney (aka Creedmoor) :o


i get exceptional accuracy out of my hornet , it's fun to play with , but my 222 is sooo much better and not fussy at all :) .i like the hornet , and the grendel would siut some peoples uses and circumstance , i was having a fish :D

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Post by marksman » 13 Aug 2019, 8:30 pm

bigrich wrote:
marksman wrote:andy, mate, dont be shy
just go straight for the 6.5x284 :lol:
the best 6.5 ever made :wtf:
check this utube vid out :thumbsup:
all shots are 6.5x284 :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taRMw9NN8CU


go ya one better MM, 264 win mag ! :P i really want to build one, even though it doesn't have a practical use for me ;)

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yep more speed :thumbsup:
but that does not guarantee an accuracy window :lol:
although I do like the 264wm I will keep my 6.5x284
and here's why :lol: :drinks:

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Post by marksman » 13 Aug 2019, 8:43 pm

JimTom wrote:
marksman wrote:andy, mate, dont be shy
just go straight for the 6.5x284 :lol:
the best 6.5 ever made :wtf:
check this utube vid out :thumbsup:
all shots are 6.5x284 :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taRMw9NN8CU


Quite impressive by anyone’s standards. No doubt an extremely capable round but I suspect you would be changing out the barrel with every magazine change. Well not quite but I’m sure you get my drift.


although I am still on my first 6.5x284 barrel I do believe I will only get around the 1200 - 1500 shots before I stop using it for longer distances
I'm at about 400 shots now and it has shot over 30 deer so I would say it will have paid for itself by now , I dont use it for plinking and look after the bore
but there are no free lunches for a very accurate shooter :thumbsup: and this just shoots :drinks:
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Post by SCJ429 » 13 Aug 2019, 8:46 pm

Nice shooting, you really should compete.

I like the idea of the Grendel but the BR case is just superb.
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Post by bigrich » 13 Aug 2019, 8:59 pm

i'm assuming that target was at 100 yards MM . but i think you broke your rifle ! there's only one hole ! :lol: i hear ya on not using your favorite hunting rifle as a plinker . i put about 600 rounds through my model 70 swede rifle doing load developement ( i tried every conceivable projectile and combo as i was new to reloading and it was fun :D ) , i don't shoot it too often now unless i'm on a hunt to preserve the barrel/accuracy . i have two other model 70's to plink/ range shoot/hunt with (222 , 243 ). they all shoulder the same and trigger pull is all about the same, so it makes jumping back and forth between rifles and calibers easy for me . i've seen a couple of 338 win mag model 70 rifles on line cheap, thinking they would be a good basis for a 264 project . i think i need another safe ...... :crazy:

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Post by marksman » 14 Aug 2019, 9:16 am

the wins have a good magazine size, good for magnum size case's so you can load long and wins can make a very accurate rifle
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Post by Cooper » 17 Aug 2019, 8:44 pm

I have two 6.5 Grendel’s now. I have a Howa Mini action and a cz527 MTR in 6.5 Grendel. The CZ was $1000 on special and I couldn’t resist. The MTR actually has a 25.6 inch barrel. But it actually feels quite usable.

I’m still working up loads for the CZ. But it shooting extremely well. I won’t be surprised if it ends up being the most accurate gun I own.
I also bought the 200 round Hornady American Gunner ammo for $235 for 200. I paid more for empty brass when I started reloading 6.5 Grendel.
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Post by Shootermick » 11 Oct 2019, 12:32 pm

I’m interested in 6.5 Grendel at the moment. Just wondering what ammo price and availability are like here in Aus? I’m not into hand loading at all.
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Post by Bill » 11 Oct 2019, 1:40 pm

Seems to be available in all the eastern state, for range work the American gunner 123gr x 200round ammo cartons is a clear winner in accuracy. I've had 5 shot groups approaching 0.5moa with nuthin but a 1.5lb trigger in my Heavy barrel howa.

Centreway have the ammo in stock, give em a ring on pricing.

I'm putting up a Sporter 6.5 Grendel Howa Mini (22inch barrel) black stock (2lb trigger) this weekend on used guns. Fired not a lot of rounds maybe 400, will have 100 piece of brass thrown in for a reloader, bases included. $575 posted
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Post by Shootermick » 11 Oct 2019, 3:09 pm

Bill wrote:Seems to be available in all the eastern state, for range work the American gunner 123gr x 200round ammo cartons is a clear winner in accuracy. I've had 5 shot groups approaching 0.5moa with nuthin but a 1.5lb trigger in my Heavy barrel howa.

Centreway have the ammo in stock, give em a ring on pricing.

I'm putting up a Sporter 6.5 Grendel Howa Mini (22inch barrel) black stock (2lb trigger) this weekend on used guns. Fired not a lot of rounds maybe 400, will have 100 piece of brass thrown in for a reloader, bases included. $575 posted


Thanks Bill.
How do you think it would perform for hunting? Nothing bigger than a kangaroo.?
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Post by Shootermick » 11 Oct 2019, 5:53 pm

Cooper wrote:I have two 6.5 Grendel’s now. I have a Howa Mini action and a cz527 MTR in 6.5 Grendel. The CZ was $1000 on special and I couldn’t resist. The MTR actually has a 25.6 inch barrel. But it actually feels quite usable.

I’m still working up loads for the CZ. But it shooting extremely well. I won’t be surprised if it ends up being the most accurate gun I own.
I also bought the 200 round Hornady American Gunner ammo for $235 for 200. I paid more for empty brass when I started reloading 6.5 Grendel.


Hey Cooper. How do you like the mini action? What barrel did you go for?
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Post by Bill » 11 Oct 2019, 7:34 pm

Hey shootermick, no I bought another grendel but a heavy barrel, love the round. Performance is like a 243 or 250 savage just with a lot less noise and fuss.

the Grendel is a range bitch and easy to smack the steel plates at 300 and 400m
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Post by Shootermick » 12 Oct 2019, 9:32 pm

Bill wrote:Hey shootermick, no I bought another grendel but a heavy barrel, love the round. Performance is like a 243 or 250 savage just with a lot less noise and fuss.

the Grendel is a range bitch and easy to smack the steel plates at 300 and 400m


Hey Bill, I went to my gun shop today but they only had a mini action in .223, they’re ringing me Monday with a price on a heavy barrel Grendel, they gave me a rough price anyway and when they call I reckon I’ll put the order in on a new one. I saw your add on used guns, and was wondering what model Meopta scope you’ve got on it? I’ve got a Meopta Meopro 6-18x50 on my Lithgow .223 and it’s a nice scope, but just after your opinion on something we’ll suited to the mini action in Grendel.? Thanks mate,
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Post by TassieTiger » 12 Oct 2019, 10:12 pm

bigrich wrote:i'm assuming that target was at 100 yards MM . but i think you broke your rifle ! there's only one hole ! :lol: i hear ya on not using your favorite hunting rifle as a plinker . i put about 600 rounds through my model 70 swede rifle doing load developement ( i tried every conceivable projectile and combo as i was new to reloading and it was fun :D ) , i don't shoot it too often now unless i'm on a hunt to preserve the barrel/accuracy . i have two other model 70's to plink/ range shoot/hunt with (222 , 243 ). they all shoulder the same and trigger pull is all about the same, so it makes jumping back and forth between rifles and calibers easy for me . i've seen a couple of 338 win mag model 70 rifles on line cheap, thinking they would be a good basis for a 264 project . i think i need another safe ...... :crazy:

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You wish it was 100m...he did that at 210m!!!!!!

That’s bloody insane.
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Post by Bill » 13 Oct 2019, 8:26 am

shootermick my go to scope has been the Meopta 4-12x50 with the BDC reticle, plenty of zoom to see holes at 200 and the holdover reticles are easy on the 400m steel plates.

I stuck a Sightron STAC 3-16x42 on the my HB Grendel and for the money I doubt you'll find a better value scope for range use.

I paid $675 plus 50 to get a Kryptek stocked HB from the USA to me in under 12 days. Local distributor quoted me $975 and unavailable, probably a 4 or 5 month wait. That $250 i saved went towards the 2nd hand STAC :drinks:

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Post by sungazer » 13 Oct 2019, 11:55 am

TassieTiger wrote:
bigrich wrote:i'm assuming that target was at 100 yards MM . but i think you broke your rifle ! there's only one hole ! :lol: i hear ya on not using your favorite hunting rifle as a plinker . i put about 600 rounds through my model 70 swede rifle doing load developement ( i tried every conceivable projectile and combo as i was new to reloading and it was fun :D ) , i don't shoot it too often now unless i'm on a hunt to preserve the barrel/accuracy . i have two other model 70's to plink/ range shoot/hunt with (222 , 243 ). they all shoulder the same and trigger pull is all about the same, so it makes jumping back and forth between rifles and calibers easy for me . i've seen a couple of 338 win mag model 70 rifles on line cheap, thinking they would be a good basis for a 264 project . i think i need another safe ...... :crazy:

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You wish it was 100m...he did that at 210m!!!!!!

That’s bloody insane.



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