Easter Hunting Trip Vs. COVID19 - QLD - Can I get fined?

[Gamerancher]

I don't know about taking Ivermectin for this, I have used it to drench my cattle, ( it is a common parasite drench for livestock ), safety warnings on the package say to avoid contact with skin and wash thoroughly after use? Anyone want me to dose them up?

[Ziege]

Ivermectin is used in pill form in the developing world to control lice and other parasites in empoverished communities. The dose is far less than what old mate will be putting on his cattle, I fail to see how it could affect a virus

[Gamerancher]

Yeah mate , I do realise that, perhaps I should have used this......

[Blr243]

I would hate to be driving a Ute loaded with a quad bike and a swag in cent Qld this Easter ....it will be swooped on as if it were a boatload of coke from South America..... there’s bound to be people caught and made an example of

[TassieTiger]

I’ve just had a ph conference with a very highly rated medical practitioner in Switzerland Re a recent surgery I had and the conversation turned to cv for some time post surgical discussion.
Take the following as info only. Please do your own research.
He said to me - stromectal (pharmaceutical name) for ivermectin has shown positive results in 60% of - non clinical - studies. TBC but was a lot more positive than anyone thought it would be.
The aids medication was 50/50 with testing and the maleria drug (chloroquine) is still being evaluated but has not proven to be as successful as hoped.
BUT he said (his info, not mine) the manufactures of tamaflu have had 100% success rate in lowering symptoms by at least 80%. They believe - they have a cure as a result. BUT - it’s all down to the $$$$ and FDA as to how fast they can / will proceed - as FDA are very strict on trials.
The CDC are seeking a waiver to the strict testing regime - but even if that’s successful, the manufacturers won’t pour millions into production in case, it falls over from an unknown - so best case for this particular drug being available - would be October.

Again and as above - this was conveyed to me privately by a high ranking medical practitioner. It is 4th hand info and should be treated as such. Do NOT go taking any medication without consulting your own medical ppl. I know nothing of his back ground in virology - he is a specialist in his individual surgical field.

[sungazer]

I would not say that it is only used in developing countries and it is not used so much for head lice.

It is used to treat worms I have a couple of packets the brand I have is called Zentar Plus Albendazole 400mg and Ivermectin 6mg so this drug would not require much in the way of approvals but would it work on a virus and what would the dose be that would need to be determined.

The price I paid for it was less than $1 it may have only been 50c

[Ziege]

There's like 5 people on this forum that keep using coarse in place of course... It's really bothering me

[Sergeant Hartman]

I think tamiflu is a very effective drug for treatment of different types of flu including swine flu. But while we do need a treatment a vaccine is the end game.

As they say prevention is better than cure.

[trekin]

I’ve just had a ph conference with a very highly rated medical practitioner in Switzerland Re a recent surgery I had and the conversation turned to cv for some time post surgical discussion.
Take the following as info only. Please do your own research.
He said to me - stromectal (pharmaceutical name) for ivermectin has shown positive results in 60% of - non clinical - studies. TBC but was a lot more positive than anyone thought it would be.
The aids medication was 50/50 with testing and the maleria drug (chloroquine) is still being evaluated but has not proven to be as successful as hoped.
BUT he said (his info, not mine) the manufactures of tamaflu have had 100% success rate in lowering symptoms by at least 80%. They believe - they have a cure as a result. BUT - it’s all down to the $$$$ and FDA as to how fast they can / will proceed - as FDA are very strict on trials.
The CDC are seeking a waiver to the strict testing regime - but even if that’s successful, the manufacturers won’t pour millions into production in case, it falls over from an unknown - so best case for this particular drug being available - would be October.

Again and as above - this was conveyed to me privately by a high ranking medical practitioner. It is 4th hand info and should be treated as such. Do NOT go taking any medication without consulting your own medical ppl. I know nothing of his back ground in virology - he is a specialist in his individual surgical field.

Fortunately, for the rest of the world, FDA (The Food and Drug Administration (FDA or USFDA) is a federal agency of the United States Department of Health and Human Services, one of the United States ...) approval is not required. In Aus, the TGA are the ones to approve medicines, https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/partner ... nistration

[TassieTiger]

Politics and $$$ being as it is - is who know wtf might eventuate...

[Oldbloke]

.... the police, the supermarket workers , Bunnings employees doctors and nurses and everyone else who still has guaranteed income , are all stuck in the seemingly unescapeable high risk environment where they are more likely to become sick, and infect their families .......they must be sh.......ing themselves. I think very fast we are all going to be forced to learn more about the importance of patience, tolerance and cooperation

Been thinking that myself. I'm 65 now. I ask myself, is work worth the risk?

[Oldbloke]

There's like 5 people on this forum that keep using coarse in place of course... It's really bothering me

Yeh, I'm hearng you. See it daily. Here is a few more.
To too
Would wood
Tho though
Of off

Poor use of language, but then it is only a forum.

[Blr243]

I’m actually a very good speller but I know I m guilty of misspelling would often.......Off coarse I could spell better tho unsure I wood want too. (Tok Me fife minnits too strung that togeva )

[NTSOG]

Ziege wrote: "There's like 5 people on this forum that keep using coarse …"

Of course they might be describing coarse fishing:

"In the United Kingdom and Ireland coarse fishing refers to angling for freshwater fish which are traditionally considered undesirable as a food or game fish. Freshwater game fish are all salmonids—most particularly salmon, trout and char—so generally coarse fish, also known as rough fish, are freshwater fish that are not salmonids...."

Bloody carp fall under that label.

Jim

[Ziege]

They aren't, they just have bad vocabularies.

[NTSOG]

Ziege: "... they just have bad vocabularies."

I fear, as one who once taught English Expression and studied German, French and Latin, that many of the students of today spell very poorly due to slack teaching and the overall belief of trendy young teachers that structured and coherent expression has little value. Feelings are enough - until said students have to get a job and write reports that are comprehensible to others, have some organisational purpose and even legal standing.

Jim

[Ziege]

+1 I'm strict as with my kids writing and grammar and correct use of vocabulary. I'm not the greatest but was astounded at how poorly even my other half cohort and herself were at University when it came to elaborating and coherently expressing their findings/ideas in writing, math and science (mostly applicable/engineering etc) was my strong suit at school so paid very little attention to English or literature. Yet I find myself leagues above others in both spelling, vocab, and the likes.... What erks me the most is when there is a highly contentious situation at play regarding firearms and lafo's with poor literary skill make well intentioned arguments but instead set themselves and the whole scene up as poorly educated and therefore lead to dismissal of our values and wants.

But yeah the education system owes some answers I think, first world country my ass, kids in grade 3 in the Philippines have better comprehension and spelling and vocab than a lot of Aussies. Also noticed a lot where teachers blame parents, this doesn't fly in my book, if you're a teacher, then teach.


But yeah enough with the thread hijack, as for old mates question, if it were me as the authorities and you're telling me you were going out of your way for a 150 acre property I would probably tell you to sod off.

[trekin]

32 of the confirmed cases up here have now classed as mystery transmission, they have not been able to track where these cases came into contact with another confirmed case.
Possible scenio?,
Community transmission, which begs the question "how long has it been circulating in the community?"
Clusters of 'mystery tranmission" have been have found in Cairns, Townville and the Gold Coast.

[sungazer]

32 of the confirmed cases up here have now classed as mystery transmission, they have not been able to track where these cases came into contact with another confirmed case.
Possible scenio?,
Community transmission, which begs the question "how long has it been circulating in the community?"
Clusters of 'mystery tranmission" have been have found in Cairns, Townville and the Gold Coast.

If it is not airborne then they must have picked it up from a surface. If that was the case you would think they would be able to trace back to a common surface. Perhaps a surface a different infected person touched all over the place which means we are in for some more cases.

Oh and the chances of being stopped and fined have gone up enormously. The police are stopping people on Peninsular Link in Vic stating they are too far from home and giving a $1650 fine.

[TassieTiger]

Stories like yours trekkin make me wonder - when my mates neighbour got the cv disease, he was told to not go outside on the same boundary fence that adjoined his neighbour - when he scoffed, the health worker said they were worried Re airborne distances and simply didn’t know...

[Diamond Jim]

Skipping all the discussion, please accept my apologies if this has already been said.

I'm discussing with my state police if I can travel to inspect a property I'm interested in buying. Drive there, inspect, drive home - no human contact. If they say no then that's it.

I usually take my boys north to farming properties for a week or so at Easter shooting and generally enjoying the bush but I wouldn't be trying to get around the system now. This Corona business is serious. My Dad is 99 and a Kokoda veteran - I would hate for someone to jeopardise his life for a hunting trip.

[trekin]

If it is not airborne then they must have picked it up from a surface. If that was the case you would think they would be able to trace back to a common surface. Perhaps a surface a different infected person touched all over the place which means we are in for some more cases.

Oh and the chances of being stopped and fined have gone up enormously. The police are stopping people on Peninsular Link in Vic stating they are too far from home and giving a $1650 fine.

Yesterday, we drove the 360km round trip from our highlands village to the smoke for our flu shots. Left home leaving plenty of time, fully expecting to be stopped and questioned serval times, meet four police cars cruising the highway, not one stopped us. East bound lane was as empty as I've every seen it, west bound was almost bumper to bumper for the whole distance. As I pointed out in another thread,, QPS seem quite happy to hole up and let Qld citizens do their job for them.

[Bill]

So we have herd immunity but what you really need to practice is herd travel, much like a pack of Zebra's.

A lone zebra is much easier to be picked off by a pack of wild dogs. Find other travellers on the roads and freeways and travel at the time most others do to avoid being the lone zebra easily taken by the pack of roaming HWP patrols ......

[trekin]

So we have herd immunity but what you really need to practice is herd travel, much like a pack of Zebra's.

A lone zebra is much easy to be picked off by a pack of wild dogs. Find other travellers on the roads and freeways and travel at the time most others do to avoid being the lone zebra easily taken by the pack of roaming HWP patrols ......

I suspect that the westward congestion was DIDO workers called back to the mines to cover for interstate/overseas FIFO workers QLD shut out, until they get a Gov't entry permit and selfisolate for two weeks before returning to work, as of last Saturday.
However, we were east bound in the morning, and because of the lack of traffic going in our direction we arrived for our appointment nearly a hour early. Probably dodged being stopped and questioned by the fact that I drive a newish white ute and wear hi-viz work shirts, but as said QPS, at least out here don't seem to interested in doing their job.

[Ziege]

They're in overdrive here in country WA, pulling over anyone who has out of town plates, both my car's the troll and the Beemer both have generic plates as does the old ducks car, all three have been stopped by local cops who know us personally more than twice because they are just simply pulling over anyone that could remotely be from out of town. And sending them back with a registered warning on the system, caught again = upto 50k fines

[trekin]

They're in overdrive here in country WA, pulling over anyone who has out of town plates, both my car's the troll and the Beemer both have generic plates as does the old ducks car, all three have been stopped by local cops who know us personally more than twice because they are just simply pulling over anyone that could remotely be from out of town. And sending them back with a registered warning on the system, caught again = upto 50k fines

Are cars over there registered to the town of residence and not to the State as in all other everywhere else?

[Gamerancher]

My understanding is, in W.A, on newer rego plates, the first two letters are indicative of the town/locality where the vehicle is registered. ( Was 1st registered? )

[Ziege]

My understanding is, in W.A, on newer rego plates, the first two letters are indicative of the town/locality where the vehicle is registered. ( Was 1st registered? )

Dealerships don't usually register vehicles in the same way as individuals, an individual will Goto the local shire office and can then get local plates, the dealerships will usually just use generic state plates. And it's not a newer thing, infact there are far less people using local plates than what they would have been decades ago.

[Bruiser64]

As Ziege says in WA you can get plate with the prefix for your local government area. Here are some links that explain it.

https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensi ... plates.asp

http://www.plateshed.com/wa_shires/

I bought my motorbike from a bloke in Kununurra, so it has a WY prefix (shire of Wyndham East Kimberley). I can change the plate to the district I live in. Given what Ziege says, that is probably a good idea.

[Gamerancher]

Happy to be corrected fella's, just going off what I've observed over many trips to the west and having a brother that's been living there for nearly 30 years. You have to admit, It is easy to pick local cars due to the plates.