Easter Hunting Trip Vs. COVID19 - QLD - Can I get fined?

[SlickColt]

So Ive had a trip planned for months in far north QLD on my cousin’s property. I plan to be camping there with 1 other mate of mine. The landowner will be on the property however on the other side of said property (150 acres) the entire time. It will be a 4 day trip and I plan to camp on the property with my mate and varmint hunt rabbits foxes dogs etc which have been terrorizing the landowners livestock. My question is, am I or the landowner liable for any fines associated with social distancing measures? I wont be travelling interstate but it will be a 6 hour drive. Ive searched for a ruling however only found a clause that Fossicking (gold prospecting) is still allowed on private land with owners consent. Any advice/rules would be a big help.

[sungazer]

i think strictly speaking it would be against the rules about reasons for leaving the house. No holidays or camping anywhere is really allowed although personally I see no threat to anyone and you would probably be at a very low risk of being caught. But we are all being asked to do the right thing so its on your consonance.

[Bill]

take an esky and knife, sounds like your shopping

seriously thou all regulations basically say no unless work or shopping. Run the gaunlet you might just make thru the 1st road block

[Blr243]

For my next mission( bush trip ) I intend getting a letter from the landowner offering me a certain fixed price for a certain amount of contracting work .... I’ll have a photo of the place on my iPad showing its 10 ooo plus acres ( living and working alone ) ...and I’m carrying enough extra diesel in Gerry cans to get there and back so I don’t have to speak to or contact a single person from start to finish ....... it’s work, it’s excercise it’s isolation, and it’s a lot less people contact that I would be having if I were in the city . It’s the most responsible week a person could ever do . And Australia can benefit from haveing a few less feral pigs cats and foxes

[Oldbloke]

i think strictly speaking it would be against the rules about reasons for leaving the house. No holidays or camping anywhere is really allowed although personally I see no threat to anyone and you would probably be at a very low risk of being caught. But we are all being asked to do the right thing so its on your consonance.

I agree. Ive recently been invited to a very large property within about 30min drive. But Ive refrained and staying home. Plenty of foxes apparently. Bloody frustrating.

[Ferrisweil]

Was thinking the same BLR. Always fencing that needs doing. If you’re getting paid for it, then it’s work...

[Farmerpete]

i think strictly speaking it would be against the rules about reasons for leaving the house. No holidays or camping anywhere is really allowed although personally I see no threat to anyone and you would probably be at a very low risk of being caught. But we are all being asked to do the right thing so its on your consonance.

Sungazer the threat would be stopping to get supplies for your camping trip.
There is a lot of speculation of how long it can live on a surface. One would think they could have worked that out by now but...
How many people touched the pump at the servo?
How many people touched the can of beans you bought to take from the supermarket?
How many people touched the cash used for both transactions?
Are you a carrier of the virus? Can you prove your not?
Staying home is to look after you As well as everyone else.

Covid relies on the population to move and spread it.
Modeling has shown it only takes 10% of the population to ignore warnings and keep moving to keep this thing spreading. If 10% of people say f it I just wanna go hunting/camping it defeats the purpose of all the rest of us staying locked up with our spouses and risking divorce.

The short answer to the op
You will be fined for going north.
If your trip was up the cape you won't get in because they locked the cape down a couple of weeks ago to stop the virus spreading to the indigenous communities.

[Maxjon]

No offence, but I hope you get fined. Take one for.the team, and stay home, like the rest of us.

[Bruiser64]

I think most of us are frustrated about our usual activities being curtailed. I am not able to leave my home for any reason as I recently returned from an interstate trip. I am of the view we all need to do the right thing as these are unprecedented times. A good example is the recent decision to prevent boaties going fishing. The reason they want to minimise movement as it has the potential to divert resources if something goes wrong. e.g sea rescue call outs for the boaties(of which I am also one). So I would suggest dont go.

[trekin]

I think most of us are frustrated about our usual activities being curtailed. I am not able to leave my home for any reason as I recently returned from an interstate trip. I am of the view we all need to do the right thing as these are unprecedented times. A good example is the recent decision to prevent boaties going fishing. The reason they want to minimise movement as it has the potential to divert resources if something goes wrong. e.g sea rescue call outs for the boaties(of which I am also one). So I would suggest dont go.

Fishing is not banned in QLD, in fact QLD Fisheries just release a statement saying as long as social distancing rules are abided by, then fishing for food is no problem. Yet we can't hunt for food with a gun.

[TassieTiger]

No offence, but I hope you get fined. Take one for.the team, and stay home, like the rest of us.

I agree. If you go - then get the disease, don’t go to hospital. Find A tree and lay down for a few weeks. Oh - and sign over your estate to ER services...just in case.

It’s this kind of me, me, me - that is continuing to spread the bloody thing.
Everyone has been impacted - I’ve had to cancel a $5k non refundable holiday with 3 kids - it is what it is...

[RoginaJack]

Well, 1st up you've gotta get into Qld. Borders are closed and everyone entering is checked, no valid reason - turn around and "have a safe journey home".
2nd. Now if you spin the feral pest control story, I imagine your licence + paperwork would have to be endorsed as such.
3rd. Should you spin the yarn it's under SSAA "Farmer Assist", once again paperwork would be required and no mention of money(Wink, Wink).
4rd. Somewhere along the trip you may get the 14 days detention, either coming or going or both.
6th. Then you've gotta get out!
7. th. Enjoy and safe hunting!

[FNQ]

To be honest hunting on 150 acres in FNQ will be a major let down as there would not be much to actually hunt.

If you did see something, after the first shot everything would be off that acreage in seconds.

[matt4350]

You can justify it to yourself all you please, the fact remains it’s a recreational shooting trip and to depart is just the same as saying “I don’t have to obey the rules because I’ve made my own assessment and the Chief Health Officer’s Directive doesn’t apply to me.” Anyone who attempts to do this sort of s**t when the directive is so abundantly clear makes shooters look bad, and you can bet on pretty good odds the people and parties opposed to us would smash home the advantage. Rule of thumb: If it’s gonna look bad when it’s printed in the Courier Mail, just don’t do it.

[Maxjon]

You can justify it to yourself all you please, the fact remains it’s a recreational shooting trip and to depart is just the same as saying “I don’t have to obey the rules because I’ve made my own assessment and the Chief Health Officer’s Directive doesn’t apply to me.” Anyone who attempts to do this sort of s**t when the directive is so abundantly clear makes shooters look bad, and you can bet on pretty good odds the people and parties opposed to us would smash home the advantage. Rule of thumb: If it’s gonna look bad when it’s printed in the Courier Mail, just don’t do it.

Exactly!!

[Oldbloke]

We all in the same boat. Lol

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[snag]

So, here you are on a publicly accessible forum asking advice on finding loopholes in lawful orders designed to save our country from going down the same mortality path as Italy and Spain? Just so YOU don't miss out on a hunting trip. Sorry, but in my world you would be categorised as a complete prick. Suck it up, Sunshine - you are not special and this about saving lives. Grow a brain.

[Blr243]

It’s early days. Laws are being developed.......currently we are generally stuck. But we are very fortunate that our chosen sport is mostly an incredibly isolated activity. Soccer players, gym freaks, team sports generally these people are going to be waiting a very long time before they can get back to doing their thing. If we ,as a whole can demonstrate that we can stick to the rules , there’s a chance of our hunting permission being granted again , even if it carries some restrictions .... then working with that, we can consider ourselves lucky to be out in the field , smelling eucalyptus, getting our socks wet,getting our balls caught in a barbed wire fence, having Roos run into the side of ou cars , fixing flat tyres on our quads, and all the other stuff we love to do

[Oldbloke]

Victoria. Issued today.

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[Sergeant Hartman]

No one is answering the big elephant question in the room. What next?

Yes we are not having deaths now, but we are not developing heard immunity as well. Are we supposed to stay JAILED in our homes for 12/18 months until a vaccine is made available?

[TassieTiger]

I don’t think ppl can answer Z - I think the govt is hoping and praying for a miracle vaccine / cure.
I watched a USA DR from New York last night say that AU is still in fantasy land and our numbers will go crazy in 10-20 days due to our testing programme being inadequate...we are following the same regime for testing as Italy and missing a symptomatic ppl who will inadvertently spread virus.
Regardless, whether this is true, as you’ve said before, we eradicate it locally - then what? We are going in to winter, one missed person and we start again ?

[Farmerpete]

Saw something last night or the night before on sky news that mentioned ivemectin? Not sure on spelling its a head lice treatment supposedly killed the virus.
They say clinical trials in 3 to 6 months so I'm assuming we'll be let out then (If it works)

[Gamerancher]

Until a viable vaccine is developed, this will run it's natural coarse throughout the population. The lock-downs are just to delay the inevitable and "slow down" the rate of infections to avoid overloading our hospital system.

[Blr243]

I think gamerancher u might be right. Our heath system can cope better if this thing is a long slow painful nightmare instead of a single deadly explosion .... I don’t think this virus can be contained inside 2020 .......it’s like a very bad dream that I wish I could wake up from.

[Ferrisweil]

And you watch the rates of clinical depression, suicide and DV sky rocket if this is forced on people for 6 months; and that’s not to mention the impact on 90% of businesses. THOSE figures will be more devastating than Covid, and hence why I believe 6 months of this lockdown is not feasible.

[Ziege]

Wonder how much longer the suck it up sunshine attitude will remain if restrictions aren't lifted and it becomes clearer and clearer that we are entering a dangerous authoritarian socialist regime..... **Queue mystery music**

[Sergeant Hartman]

Yep. Ferris, that's what i am starting to think.

Which gamerancher mentions a very valid point that i used to... still.... believe, butt with so many reports that currently loads of icu beds are unoccupied because we have slowed the spread.

According to the age article i posted somewhere else, the countries where the first wave of Spanish flu instances were lowest, had the highest numbers overall when the second wave of the virus hit.

[Blr243]

Us lot who lose our small businesses and our jobs may for a moment feel jealous of those that haven’t , eg imagine I’m out looking for work and a police officer stops me and tells me to go home .... and so I turn around and head for home knowing I will only be haveing baked beans on toast , but I think that the police officer on his normal guaranteed pay will be chewing on a nice char grilled rump steak....... but at the end of the day as I am licking the last drop of sauce from my cutlery, I may come out on top .... the police, the supermarket workers , Bunnings employees doctors and nurses and everyone else who still has guaranteed income , are all stuck in the seemingly unescapeable high risk environment where they are more likely to become sick, and infect their families .......they must be sh.......ing themselves. I think very fast we are all going to be forced to learn more about the importance of patience, tolerance and cooperation

[trekin]

Saw something last night or the night before on sky news that mentioned ivemectin? Not sure on spelling its a head lice treatment supposedly killed the virus.
They say clinical trials in 3 to 6 months so I'm assuming we'll be let out then (If it works)

Does not require clinical trails, Ivermectin is already approved as an oral medication for the control of headlice, therefore its side effects in humans is already known. They could jump straight to human trails to determine the dosage required to effectively treat this virus as early as the end of this week, it will only require that Monash University's results be replicated by a couple of other, independant, labs. However, finding an effective way to treat/wipe out this virus is not on their agender.

[perentie]

Then there are those that are asymptomatic. Dont show up in testing or show symptoms yet are still carriers.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-04/ ... s/12119942