Holdover question

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Holdover question

Post by Blr243 » 22 Nov 2020, 3:05 pm

Where do u put the cross hairs when the cat walks into front. Verandah and is only 3 metres away ?
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Re: Holdover question

Post by TassieTiger » 22 Nov 2020, 3:24 pm

Shooot from the hip.
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Blr243 » 22 Nov 2020, 3:29 pm

Shipping container behind
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Re: Holdover question

Post by straightshooter » 22 Nov 2020, 3:29 pm

At that range the projectile will be below the line of sight by the same amount as the centerline of the scope is above the bore, typically 1.5 inches with rimfire sized scopes.
So if for example you wanted a quick dispatch then the crosshairs would be just above the top of its head between the ears.
This of course assumes that you are accurately sighted in at typical 60 to 75 meters for a 22LR.
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Shootermick » 22 Nov 2020, 5:03 pm

Use the shotgun.
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Skinna » 22 Nov 2020, 5:49 pm

For a rimfire, centrally positioned to head, with elevation half way between top of head & top line of ears...like SS said...

For CF rifle, same elevation from desired POI but hit as much bone & body mass as you can to fragment bullet & have it dump as much energy as possible into the cat...for example move to front on & hit it high in the chest hoping to collect as much bone, tissue & spine as you can, or head with body straight behind...

Or 3 consecutive evenly time spaced shots with your over n under...the first into the centre mass of cat, the following 2 into a dirt mound so you can say you had some firecrackers you let off...then promptly make cat vanish to bottom of said dirt mound & put the shotty away... :lol:
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Blr243 » 22 Nov 2020, 5:49 pm

I do hav the shotgun but have accidentally left the mags at home. But not likely to need another shot so don’t really need the mags for one cat. It’s only a hypothetical boredom question. The photo was taken roughly a year ago when it used to hang around for a bit of tucker
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Re: Holdover question

Post by bladeracer » 22 Nov 2020, 6:49 pm

One of the properties I'm hunting picked this up on the trail camera last Thursday at 10am, the day we hit 34C.
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Member-Deleted » 22 Nov 2020, 6:52 pm

bladeracer wrote:One of the properties I'm hunting picked this up on the trail camera last Thursday at 10am, the day we hit 34C.


The Tasmanian panther has made it to Victoria! :sarcasm:
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Re: Holdover question

Post by bladeracer » 22 Nov 2020, 7:12 pm

BangWhizzClack wrote:
bladeracer wrote:One of the properties I'm hunting picked this up on the trail camera last Thursday at 10am, the day we hit 34C.


The Tasmanian panther has made it to Victoria! :sarcasm:


Yep, and he needs to go :-)
The property is a tricky one as it is the top of a hill, finding almost any shot with a backstop is difficult. I'll have to try to bait it into a specific "beaten zone" and call in an artillery strike :-)
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Ziege » 22 Nov 2020, 8:30 pm

use 300wm and aim center mass
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Member-Deleted » 22 Nov 2020, 8:43 pm

Hahaha, bugger that get the A-10 to "brrrrrrrrt" past.

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Re: Holdover question

Post by TassieTiger » 22 Nov 2020, 8:46 pm

Blr243 wrote:Where do u put the cross hairs when the cat walks into front. Verandah and is only 3 metres away ?



He looks sooooooo angry lol
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Post by Blr243 » 22 Nov 2020, 10:08 pm

Looking at blades panther pic, Even if there’s just a sceric of a desire to believe panthers exist , it’s funny how cats look bigger than normal when a part of your brain wants it to be a panther instead of a cat
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Post by Member-Deleted » 22 Nov 2020, 10:15 pm

Blr243 wrote:Looking at blades panther pic, Even if there’s just a sceric of a desire to believe panthers exist , it’s funny how cats look bigger than normal when a part of your brain wants it to be a panther instead of a cat


:lol: I'm to tired to concentrate that hard haha
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Skinna » 23 Nov 2020, 12:47 am

bladeracer wrote:
BangWhizzClack wrote:
bladeracer wrote:One of the properties I'm hunting picked this up on the trail camera last Thursday at 10am, the day we hit 34C.


The Tasmanian panther has made it to Victoria! :sarcasm:


Yep, and he needs to go :-)
The property is a tricky one as it is the top of a hill, finding almost any shot with a backstop is difficult. I'll have to try to bait it into a specific "beaten zone" and call in an artillery strike :-)


Sit where the trail cam is...if its regular on the property you'll most likely find it will follow the same trails...to be sure scatter a small handful of dry cat food over that area.

Using the 204 should be fine...even if you miss a 20 cal 32gr BT wont hold together once it hits something, even a miss at a shallow angle to the ground there will be nothing left of the bullet to probably even make a sound on a metal clad shed 20 yds behind...
Even the angle the pic is taken on would be fine-(although i say that tentatively as i dont know the area or have a good/actual perspective)-if you missed & hit the ground where the cat is with a full loaded 32 Zmax for example i highly doubt any fragments would even make it a metre or so through the grass immediately behind the cat...(and no im not willing to stand there for you to test it... :) )...although at that range hold high & be prepared for a serious mess... :shock:

Ive done a good bit of experimenting over the last 5 or more years with small cal fast flat shooters pinging frangible bullets as compared to the same bullets slowed down from 222/223, & the ricochet frequency even at very shallow angles with 204 & 22-250 is next to none as they fragment either biting in to sand or return to the earth from whence they came-- as compared with a scary high number of ricochet's from 223.

Having said all that, im obviously not suggesting to not worry about the backround...just stating realities of the vast difference that extra velocity can actually make to safety... anyway...you know what youre doing... :)

Now show me the cat skin... :clap:
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Blr243 » 23 Nov 2020, 3:21 am

I’m not useing my usual frangible v max in my 243. I’m useing 180 grain protected point woodleigh so shed is going to suffer big time .....all this talk about shooting the cat has scared it away
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Re: Holdover question

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Re: Holdover question

Post by Blr243 » 24 Nov 2020, 6:52 pm

I agree old bloke. Now it looks like the cat is collecting for the Red Cross
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Re: Holdover question

Post by Ziege » 24 Nov 2020, 7:01 pm

if you add some more to that cross it will be the feline führer
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