223 Rem you favourite 50gr pill

[Billo]

So I started reloading for a Howa Mini 223 Remington this week and the only projectiles I had on hand were some 50gr Sierra Blitzkings, now I only had 12 left and made up 4 loads with 2219 to see if the gun like them and straight off the bat it shot a 3 shot group of only 0,2 moa, now these aren't the cheapest pills and I'm curious what others like to shoot, Vmax or BT ?? Vmax would appear to be a safe bet with less of financial hit to the pocket....

[Oldbloke]

Cant help with 50g.
Only tried 55g.
Currently superoos. Cheap as chips. No pics but very tight groups. Umm just under 20mm/100yards. Out of a s**ty Marlin BA.

[geoff]

A 3 shot group doesn't really mean much statistically but if they work for you in the way you use them then that's great.

I'm running super roos and 52 grain Speer varmint hollow points

Availability is the key issue for me. I tend to be a volume shooter so I need something I can get in reasonable quantities

[Billo]

A 3 shot group doesn't really mean much statistically but if they work for you in the way you use them then that's great.

I'm running super roos and 52 grain Speer varmint hollow points

Availability is the key issue for me. I tend to be a volume shooter so I need something I can get in reasonable quantities

Hey Geoff 3 shots is all I could do but it generally it is a good indicator that I'm heading in the right direction, the heavier Howa barrels generally shoot like stink and this one is no different, might pop in to the LGS and see what they have on special

[Fester]

Tried different pills when I started shooting and loading .223 but nothing could compare with 55gr Super roos and they were 13c each if you bought 2,000.

Same with the factory ammo, would be lucky to find a rifle that didn't like them.

Hornady 55gr were also very cheap but were not even in the race for accuracy.
They cottoned on and doubled the price now, but Cleavers still do the odd sale.

[on_one_wheel]

My favourite 50 grain projectile for the .223 is actually the 55 grain V max, theyve got nice light jackets making them pretty explosive, nice construction with those polymer tips, no issues with consistency, I'm getting .5" at 100m with a hunting rifle.

Iv found super roos have heavier jackets, probably better if you like using the little fellas on pigs, they weren't making things pop as spectacularly. Thier slightly cheaper construction makes them a good dual purpose item if you need a lead pencil.

[Oldbloke]

My favourite 50 grain projectile for the .223 is actually the 55 grain V max, theyve got nice light jackets making them pretty explosive, nice construction with those polymer tips, no issues with consistency, I'm getting .5" at 100m with a hunting rifle.

Iv found super roos have heavier jackets, probably better if you like using the little fellas on pigs, they weren't making things pop as spectacularly. Thier slightly cheaper construction makes them a good dual purpose item if you need a lead pencil.

I've heard that complaint about superoos being hard before. But every fox I've hit has just dropped bar one that was hit a bit far back, next shot stopped it in its tracks. But probably nothing over 100yards and nothing messy, just dead.

[on_one_wheel]

Iv have a horsepower addiction, it makes me do things like aim for 100% energy transfer. I can't help it.

[deye243]

So I started reloading for a Howa Mini 223 Remington this week and the only projectiles I had on hand were some 50gr Sierra Blitzkings, now I only had 12 left and made up 4 loads with 2219 to see if the gun like them and straight off the bat it shot a 3 shot group of only 0,2 moa, now these aren't the cheapest pills and I'm curious what others like to shoot, Vmax or BT ?? Vmax would appear to be a safe bet with less of financial hit to the pocket....

So what are you trying to do punch holes in paper or kill critters

[Billo]

So I started reloading for a Howa Mini 223 Remington this week and the only projectiles I had on hand were some 50gr Sierra Blitzkings, now I only had 12 left and made up 4 loads with 2219 to see if the gun like them and straight off the bat it shot a 3 shot group of only 0,2 moa, now these aren't the cheapest pills and I'm curious what others like to shoot, Vmax or BT ?? Vmax would appear to be a safe bet with less of financial hit to the pocket....

So what are you trying to do punch holes in paper or kill critters

100 x 50gr SIerra Blitzkings loaded last night, will be used to clean up paddock rats over the weekend, hoping to bump a few pigs/foxes.

223 has been dropped into a chassis and Hik Micro attached. Off to the range site in the 223 along with the 204R

[bigrich]

So I started reloading for a Howa Mini 223 Remington this week and the only projectiles I had on hand were some 50gr Sierra Blitzkings, now I only had 12 left and made up 4 loads with 2219 to see if the gun like them and straight off the bat it shot a 3 shot group of only 0,2 moa, now these aren't the cheapest pills and I'm curious what others like to shoot, Vmax or BT ?? Vmax would appear to be a safe bet with less of financial hit to the pocket....

So what are you trying to do punch holes in paper or kill critters

100 x 50gr SIerra Blitzkings loaded last night, will be used to clean up paddock rats over the weekend, hoping to bump a few pigs/foxes.

223 has been dropped into a chassis and Hik Micro attached. Off to the range site in the 223 along with the 204R

55 vmaxs work good in my tikka accuracy wise . i don't get out at night using a light , early morning and afternoon are when my 223 gets used . but in those conditions they move their heads a lot compared to shooting under lights, which has resulted in horrible head wounds which need a follow up shot . not happy about that , so i switched to 60 vmax for chest shots and haven't looked back .not to code i know , but the result is more humane . i do this type of shooting to help out a property owner i know , not out of a desire to hunt paddock rats . 60 vmax will give you more smack down on pigs too . there's a noticable terminal difference stepping up to the 60gn pill from the 55. the 60vmax is a flat base that stabilises well, my tikka is 12 twist and shoots under .5" at 100 with the 60's and BM2 . i like 2219 in my 222 with a 50vmax , one ragged hole at 100 in a timber stocked rem 700 . just noticed your using a thermal scope , from what i hear very efficient way of pest control . unfortunately for me too expensive

[Billo]

Yeah Bigrich the thermal is more likely to give you that still animal, I chroned the 50gr at 3270fps from the 20 inch barrel so they are pretty flat out to 200. Really liking the accuracy 2219 is giving aswell. Old farmer is getting his paddock flogged atm so hoping we can do our bit.

I've also laded up some 36gr OEP monos which shoot to the same point of impact so if we bump into any pigs....

[Fester]

You often hear blokes say the Sierra pills can pencil through, but others find them OK.
Some use V-max because they are a great explosive varmint pill, but often admit they are less accurate.

For head shooting hoppers, I would like that half MOA accuracy and head shots just kill with any pill.

I wonder if it's at close range that the pencilling goes on more as that was the problem with Hrdy ELDm in 6.5 type cals from what I have heard. Blokes were saying they performed fine at long range and the ELDx was not as accurate.
I don't do much LR critter shooting, but can understand why they often use target pills like MatchKings and ELDm.
If you can't hit the vital zone, you can't kill it well.

[Billo]

Hey Fester Sierra now make 2 types of Blitzking, 1 suitable for 22-250s and one advertised for the 22 Hornet/222.

Will see how they go tonight

[on_one_wheel]

I wonder if it's at close range that the pencilling goes on more as that was the problem with Hrdy ELDm in 6.5 type cals from what I have heard. Blokes were saying they performed fine at long range and the ELDx was not as accurate.

Fragmentation and expansion will always decrease as the speed drops, that is the case for all projectiles.
If it's pencilling at close range it will still pencil beyond that as it loses velocity and energy.

[bladeracer]

I wonder if it's at close range that the pencilling goes on more as that was the problem with Hrdy ELDm in 6.5 type cals from what I have heard. Blokes were saying they performed fine at long range and the ELDx was not as accurate.

Fragmentation and expansion will always decrease as the speed drops, that is the case for all projectiles.
If it's pencilling at close range it will still pencil beyond that as it loses velocity and energy.

I think the problem he's referring to is the target bullets tend to blow up without penetrating at close range so they start to perform better as range increases and the terminal velocity drops.

[Billo]

So had a good run Sat nite, didnt quite hit the double ton but we sure did give it a crack, the wind blew up a bit after midnight which didnt help 10 Foxes and 6 Hares rounded out things nicely. This was the first hare of the night, shot at about 80yd broadside.

So the 50gr Blitzing with the fast 1:8 tend to blow up too easily, not a problem in my mates 1:12 twist Bergara. 36gr OEP mono worked a treat but no pig were sighted. This 223 barrel will be pulled and screwed onto my old Hornet for update, plan is to use the 36gr OEP's and use it as an allrounder for foxes and pigs.