Rabbits and small game at long distances - 22-250 and .308

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Rabbits and small game at long distances - 22-250 and .308

Post by Zackster » 06 Apr 2015, 7:18 am

I like to shoot rabbits and small game at long distances

What is the longest range I could expect from a 22.250

And is a 308 cal an over kill if I want to shot them at 650 yards
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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Apr 2015, 9:20 am

Both capable of those ranges - just depends on you and your skills/knowledge to get the job done. :thumbsup:
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Post by Chronos » 06 Apr 2015, 9:43 am

Best look at the ballistic charts for both cartridges and see is your scope will get you out there.

While you're there you can look at comparisons between bullets, high BC will be a huge help with drop and windage

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Post by Jack V » 06 Apr 2015, 1:07 pm

There is a lot more to it than just checking ballistic charts on certain cartridges . To hit a Rabbit at 650 yards with any kind of consistency takes an accurate rifle /cartridge combination with good optics and a good shooter . A 22-250 is a bit light on with bullets and most have a 1 in 14 twist that don't help either.
I think that heavier 6mm is a better bullet for that job , would be less effected by wind and not produce too much recoil . The 243 W with a 1 in 10 barrel in a heavier gun would be better than a 22-250 . In the right gun the 308 can do the job but it's extra recoil to try and control if the gun is not very heavy . Match grade 30 cal bullets are expensive to be throwing down range on varmints.
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Post by Browning » 06 Apr 2015, 1:35 pm

Not sure if this is a p$&@take or not?? Rabbits at 650m... Why??
Fair enough a 22-250 at 200-300m but a 308 at 600m on rabbits?? Lol
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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Apr 2015, 1:50 pm

Browning wrote:Not sure if this is a p$&@take or not?? Rabbits at 650m... Why??
Fair enough a 22-250 at 200-300m but a 308 at 600m on rabbits?? Lol


I'd imagine its the challenge it represents - perfectly doable with the right equipment and skills etc. :thumbsup:
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Post by Blu333 » 06 Apr 2015, 2:31 pm

Rabbits at 400+ yards is fun! I was doing it yesterday. Not much left after a 168grn pill gives them a touch up. We ran out of rabbits so paper coffee cups filled with mud out at 500 where the next victims until home time.
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Post by brett1868 » 06 Apr 2015, 11:23 pm

Guess some of you were expecting this....forget the 22-250, forget the .308 go buy yourself a .375 Cheytac and vaporise the furry little varmints :) Nothing says red mist like 350Gr of SMK at that range. And you all thought I was going to suggest buying a 50 Cal but that would be just plain silly cause we all know the 50 is for watermelons at short ranges :)

Seriously I love the 22-250 it's still my favourite go to rifle for hunting but as others have suggested, check your scope for the amount of elevation available or use a tactical type reticule with appropriate holdover markers. Practise and more practise at those ranges, wind, air temp and how much coffee you've had will all contribute to your success. Other then that go for it and if nothing else at least you're giving the bunnies a fighting chance while improving your shooting :)

On the subject of coffee and shooting I've noticed that since I've broken the caffeine habit my groups are improving...
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Post by Aster » 07 Apr 2015, 2:45 pm

.308 is overkill on a rabbit at any distance if you want anything left of it afterwards.
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Post by Die Judicii » 09 Apr 2015, 7:25 pm

Blu333 wrote:Rabbits at 400+ yards is fun! I was doing it yesterday. Not much left after a 168grn pill gives them a touch up. We ran out of rabbits so paper coffee cups filled with mud out at 500 where the next victims until home time.


What's even more fun and spectacular to boot, is those fly spray size cans of Butane gas.
We used to set them up one at a time about 10 or 15 feet in front of a bonfire, and hit em with the 22/250 from 200 metres away at night.

The impact combined with the pressurized butane was quite explosive, but then the resultant cloud of gas would be ignited from the fire.
So you get this massive ball of flame.
Real good fun, as long as you are sensible while doing it.

Its impressiveness is brought home when you start gathering up the schrapnel (tins) to put in the bin afterwards. :thumbsup:
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Post by brett1868 » 09 Apr 2015, 8:10 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
Blu333 wrote:Rabbits at 400+ yards is fun! I was doing it yesterday. Not much left after a 168grn pill gives them a touch up. We ran out of rabbits so paper coffee cups filled with mud out at 500 where the next victims until home time.


What's even more fun and spectacular to boot, is those fly spray size cans of Butane gas.
We used to set them up one at a time about 10 or 15 feet in front of a bonfire, and hit em with the 22/250 from 200 metres away at night.

The impact combined with the pressurized butane was quite explosive, but then the resultant cloud of gas would be ignited from the fire.
So you get this massive ball of flame.
Real good fun, as long as you are sensible while doing it.

Its impressiveness is brought home when you start gathering up the schrapnel (tins) to put in the bin afterwards. :thumbsup:


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Post by Josh Smith » 14 Apr 2015, 2:19 pm

Try .25-06.

It sounds like you're wanting to do a lot like our prairie dog hunters do.

Try this:

http://www.longrangehunting.com/article ... hunt-1.php

I still have a hard time seeing wabbits as vermin, but I suppose with no natural predators... but dang, they's good eatin'!

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Post by PaWNTANK » 14 Apr 2015, 6:56 pm

Guys please, we all know .500 Nitro Express and 12g Slugs are where its at for bunny busting :)
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Post by Norton » 16 Apr 2015, 12:25 am

Die Judicii wrote:Real good fun, as long as you are sensible while doing it.


I think the antis aren't going to accept the word 'sensible' in that story :lol:
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Post by Josh Smith » 16 Apr 2015, 12:41 am

PaWNTANK wrote:Guys please, we all know .500 Nitro Express and 12g Slugs are where its at for bunny busting :)


I'm coming from the hyper-expanding-exploding-bullet at hyper-velocity angle.

I figure you want to do to rabbits what we do to prairie dogs. You often hear of prairie dog hunters celebrating "The Red Mist".

A .25-06 with a varmint bulled would do that nicely.

Also, these varmint bullets will come apart if they so much as touch a blade of grass. Overpenetration is therefore not a problem and one reason these are used.

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Post by ebr love » 16 Apr 2015, 3:22 pm

Barnes "varmint grenade" bullets do have a nice ring to the name :D
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