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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by brett1868 » 21 Sep 2015, 9:44 pm

petemacsydney wrote:is the kick much more than a 223?


Come over to my desk on Friday and I'll punch you in the shoulder a few times so you get an idea of how it recoils. Might take me a few punches to warm up though :lol:
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by bigfellascott » 21 Sep 2015, 10:19 pm

rsj223 wrote:
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happyhunter wrote:Depends on how much noise you want to make. Get both if undecided.


whats the noise difference like?


Ones a BOOM (22.250) the others a CRACK (223) 22.250 being louder (more powder = more noise obviously.

That Boom sound is the best, would it be similar to .308 without the kick?


Sorta similar I reckon, not quite but similar. :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by bigfellascott » 21 Sep 2015, 10:22 pm

petemacsydney wrote:is the kick much more than a 223?


Much a muchness for me, certainly nothing to worry about at all (I can still watch foxes being red misted at nearly 300m at night (HB Howa). :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by petemacsydney » 22 Sep 2015, 8:57 am

brett1868 wrote:
petemacsydney wrote:is the kick much more than a 223?


Come over to my desk on Friday and I'll punch you in the shoulder a few times so you get an idea of how it recoils. Might take me a few punches to warm up though :lol:


But I usually shoulder the rifle butt to my face?
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by petemacsydney » 22 Sep 2015, 8:59 am

Elmer wrote:Get both mate, Ive got 3 sako 85s LVSS a .223 , 22-250 and a .260....will be using the 250 from 400-550 maybe 600yds and have used the .223 to smack bunnies out to 450yds. Both are very accurate but if your content to limit your self to about 450yds well then I would stick with the .223. Check out my youtube channel , have got some good long range shots with the .223.

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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by winchestersx » 22 Sep 2015, 10:06 am

22-250 is more fun to shoot than 223. I would buy the 22-250.
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by MalleeFarmer » 29 Jan 2016, 6:37 pm

.250 v fox headshot. Best thing about the 250 is the sound. :shock: :thumbsup: You can actually feel the very significant pressure increase rather than just hear it! It's awesome! :drinks:
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by Browning » 31 Jan 2016, 7:41 pm

Unless you've got a medical prob, your shoulder is made of butter or you're not eating enough cement mix, don't even think about recoil....
Honestly, if recoil is an issue on either a 223 or 250, find another sport..
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by Rakk » 01 Feb 2016, 3:14 pm

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that velocity is a real bastards when it comes to steel targets.

Plates that will deflect a .308 with a slight dimple, the 22-250 can go straight through. Or damage much more significantly and wear through in short order.

Seriously strong targets are required if you want them to last, otherwise use something you consider more disposable.
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by MalleeFarmer » 01 Feb 2016, 8:10 pm

Rakk wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that velocity is a real bastards when it comes to steel targets.

Plates that will deflect a .308 with a slight dimple, the 22-250 can go straight through. Or damage much more significantly and wear through in short order.

Seriously strong targets are required if you want them to last, otherwise use something you consider more disposable.


I use both the .308 and the .22-250 and I have found that neither make a large mark on a bisalloy plate at 100-200 yards
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by bigfellascott » 01 Feb 2016, 10:01 pm

MalleeFarmer wrote:
Rakk wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that velocity is a real bastards when it comes to steel targets.

Plates that will deflect a .308 with a slight dimple, the 22-250 can go straight through. Or damage much more significantly and wear through in short order.

Seriously strong targets are required if you want them to last, otherwise use something you consider more disposable.


I use both the .308 and the .22-250 and I have found that neither make a large mark on a bisalloy plate at 100-200 yards


This one got nailed by my 250 at around 80m from memory :lol: Hardox 500 plate and she sailed straight through it, the 338 Lap, 308 and 223 hardly made a scratch.

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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by MalleeFarmer » 02 Feb 2016, 8:48 am

S#!t what load is that with?
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Re: 22-250 VS .223..... School me!

Post by Rakk » 09 Feb 2016, 10:49 am

Yep, that'd be what I was talking about.
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by bones-350 » 20 Oct 2016, 9:10 pm

I got a ,223 and a 22,250 and my peace maker 7mm rem mag.
Personally if had my time again I would go for a .243 win instead of the 22.250
.223 rem .243 win and my 7mm rem mag. would cover all bases.
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by John » 12 Apr 2020, 10:41 am

Personally not a big fan of the 22/250 but you can stretch the shots out a lot more than the .223 if you think your gunna want to take longer shots on thin skinned game it’s not a bad option I use to use a 220 swift that was a bit finicky to load but had very impressive results at longer ranges if there wasn’t any wind around the standard 220 was hard on cases they stretched a lot I had mine improved for that reason but than barral life became a problem still a great gun I’m not sure how the 250s stand up barrel and case life I haven’t used one long enough to gage that one.
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Ziege » 12 Apr 2020, 1:59 pm

Now that I handload, I would have gone 220 swift, but in saying that I don't think I would have shot anything with it my 223 couldn't
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by boingk » 01 Aug 2020, 9:28 pm

Brain says 223 gets the vote. 22-250's aren't a bad cartridge at all but are a bit of an intermediate IMO. Sure they're fast and fast is nice, but why not have the power to go with it? Just get a 223 and you'll be right.

Heart, however, says get the 22-250 and load those fahkers up to 4000fps and ledder rip sunshine!

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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by bigrich » 10 Jan 2021, 6:27 pm

okay, old post fellas .but who likes 22-250 and what do you use it for ? all personal experiences and views welcome . has anyone tried a fast twist and used heavier .224 high B.C projectiles ? does anyone use this as a "walking" rifle , or is this caliber just for bull barrelled varmit rifles . i used to see a lot of older european sporters , sako's , krico's ect in this caliber .
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Ziege » 10 Jan 2021, 7:02 pm

way I see it, for how useful .224 projectiles are over distance at lighter weights, If you can shoot, the choice between the two is more noise or less noise.
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by SCJ429 » 10 Jan 2021, 8:24 pm

bigrich wrote:okay, old post fellas .but who likes 22-250 and what do you use it for ? all personal experiences and views welcome . has anyone tried a fast twist and used heavier .224 high B.C projectiles ? does anyone use this as a "walking" rifle , or is this caliber just for bull barrelled varmit rifles . i used to see a lot of older european sporters , sako's , krico's ect in this caliber .


I have owned a number of rifles in 22/250 and shot a lot of bunnies and foxes with them using 50 or 55 grain pills. Also used it on smaller pigs and goats. Always shoot very well and got over 2,500 rounds out of a barrel shooting 1/4 inch groups. You can shoot them at warp speed or throttle back to 223 speeds if you need to. Lapua make brass for it and the 1:14 twist barrels make for a very accurate combination using some flat based match bullets.
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Blr243 » 10 Jan 2021, 8:50 pm

Mine is a heavy barrelled howa. Just picking it up and putting it on the rack of my quad bike is an effort ... it weighs a ton. It’s strictly a quadbike spotlighting rifle for foxes and cats There’s no way I’m walking thru the bush with it
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by bigrich » 10 Jan 2021, 10:02 pm

SCJ429 wrote:
bigrich wrote:okay, old post fellas .but who likes 22-250 and what do you use it for ? all personal experiences and views welcome . has anyone tried a fast twist and used heavier .224 high B.C projectiles ? does anyone use this as a "walking" rifle , or is this caliber just for bull barrelled varmit rifles . i used to see a lot of older european sporters , sako's , krico's ect in this caliber .


I have owned a number of rifles in 22/250 and shot a lot of bunnies and foxes with them using 50 or 55 grain pills. Also used it on smaller pigs and goats. Always shoot very well and got over 2,500 rounds out of a barrel shooting 1/4 inch groups. You can shoot them at warp speed or throttle back to 223 speeds if you need to. Lapua make brass for it and the 1:14 twist barrels make for a very accurate combination using some flat based match bullets.


how did you find this caliber with a sporter barrel ? was accuracy consistant for a couple of quick shots ? :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by bigrich » 10 Jan 2021, 10:08 pm

Blr243 wrote:Mine is a heavy barrelled howa. Just picking it up and putting it on the rack of my quad bike is an effort ... it weighs a ton. It’s strictly a quadbike spotlighting rifle for foxes and cats There’s no way I’m walking thru the bush with it


i got a 223 vangaurd with a shortened barrel . the weatherby /howa action is heavy for what it is . accurate though . i can only imagine what one with a varmit barrel weighs . maybe you should set it up on the qaud with a 50 cal browning swivel mount :lol: :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Bello » 11 Jan 2021, 10:10 am

Hi Mate
I have both 223 and 22-250, Sold the 204.
I find he 223 does everything I need t to do with 55gr pills, most of my hunting is within 200 Meters.

I see the difference like that of the 22LR vs 22HMR

The 22-250 will stretch the distance you can effectively take game over the 223. As long as you are also capable of placing the shot.
Just remember, it usually the same 55gr (Or about that weight pill), that is used in a 223, just driven faster.

If you want a bit more hitting power out further possibly look at 243.

223 will shoot for a long time, 22-250 is a barrel burner.
223 Cheaper to run
223 Quieter than 22-250
A fair few pro roo shooters have gone from 22-250 to 223. for the above reasons.
Both good calibres.
Comes down to personal choice.
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Blr243 » 11 Jan 2021, 10:33 am

Big rich...I have Foam covered racks at the right height for rifle rest front and sides Of my quad so this gives me 180 degree shooting from my quad. To steady the back end when I take a shot I jam my back against my dog cage .....but it’s a bit of a stretch sometimes If you mention swivel mount, Just as a joke but I have equipment and I like making stuff , so now u is giving me ideas. If dj can do something swiveling for the back of his cruiser perhaps I can do same for my quad ....I’ll be giving this some thought and putting pen to paper
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by bigrich » 11 Jan 2021, 11:14 am

Blr243 wrote:Big rich...I have Foam covered racks at the right height for rifle rest front and sides Of my quad so this gives me 180 degree shooting from my quad. To steady the back end when I take a shot I jam my back against my dog cage .....but it’s a bit of a stretch sometimes If you mention swivel mount, Just as a joke but I have equipment and I like making stuff , so now u is giving me ideas. If dj can do something swiveling for the back of his cruiser perhaps I can do same for my quad ....I’ll be giving this some thought and putting pen to paper


by swivel mount i mean a rail in a semi circle with a "mount" that can be slid around on this rail to fire in different directions to the way the vehicle is facing . i saw this system in a WW2 movie . the rail was attached inside of the top edge of a american half-track .

just a idea , a m16 spec half track with a qaud 50 would be handy for large mobs of pigs, buffalo and invading armies :lol:
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by bigrich » 11 Jan 2021, 11:27 am

Bello wrote:Hi Mate
I have both 223 and 22-250, Sold the 204.
I find he 223 does everything I need t to do with 55gr pills, most of my hunting is within 200 Meters.

I see the difference like that of the 22LR vs 22HMR

The 22-250 will stretch the distance you can effectively take game over the 223. As long as you are also capable of placing the shot.
Just remember, it usually the same 55gr (Or about that weight pill), that is used in a 223, just driven faster.

If you want a bit more hitting power out further possibly look at 243.

223 will shoot for a long time, 22-250 is a barrel burner.
223 Cheaper to run
223 Quieter than 22-250
A fair few pro roo shooters have gone from 22-250 to 223. for the above reasons.
Both good calibres.
Comes down to personal choice.
Do what I did...Buy BOTH :lol:


yeah , i understand the "cons" of the 22-250 in terms of barrel life . don't realy want to step up to 243 . i'm thinking in terms of powder and projectiles i already use ,i see the addition of the 250 as a versatile step up from the 223 . with a 1-12 twist i could use 50-60 gn projectiles but with more energy and reach . cost isn't the big factor as i don't do high volume culling .
i've found the 222 to be a nice accurate, quiet caliber for such uses. if not for the millitary developement of the 223, the 222 would probably be very popular still .
noise is probably the biggest factor to concern me , i'm thinking accuracy loads in the 250 at 223ai/really hot 223 load levels would be practicle without pushing preasure limits

keep your thoughts coming fellas :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Diamond Jim » 20 Jan 2021, 12:54 am

22-250 is certainly a popular calibre and it does have an impressive "boom". When I bought a .22 calibre rifle I asked "what do professional shooters use?"
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by Blr243 » 20 Jan 2021, 6:49 am

After my last trip away I’m thinking of Taking my thermal scope of the 250 and sticking the 250 in the safe for possibly a long rest. I’d rather have my 243 it’s more versatile when in on my quad at night. It’s better suited to being able to take pigs if I see them. I don’t want to be carting different rifles on my quadbike
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Re: 22-250 vs 223

Post by JimTom » 20 Jan 2021, 12:56 pm

Have had both and really they’re two different animals. 22/250 has obvious advantage for the long range varmint shots. 223 has several advantages also in other areas, ie running costs, barrel life etc.
I sold my 22/250 and got a 223.
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