Mick460 wrote:Consider yourselves fortunate to have your various police branches have the decency and courtesy to pre-arrange inspections. There is no such luxury in South Australia, Sapol will never announce their intention to inspect prior to knocking on your door. They can and will as per our 2017 legislation arrive at any time of day or night they deem fit. It can be one, two, three officers or more. This is to catch anyone doing the wrong thing at the time. Many stories abound in the gun clubs of LAFO's becoming unstuck. Apparently the most common way was wives and or other residents opening safes or ammunition storage to allow officers to inspect. There is no 2nd chance in S.A.
I have only been inspected once and it was an enjoyable experience as the officer shoots at the same club as me, I do live rural and most people seem to have good stories. Friends and colleagues in the city seem to be less fortunate. Kind regards, Mick
Oldbloke wrote:They are people just like us. About 5% are prix the rest of fine.
MontyShooter wrote:A pre arranged inspection?!?
That makes no sense at all...
I wonder how many keep their guns under their bed and just buy a safe if and when.
bladeracer wrote:Theoretically, our government is supposed to assume we are not all criminals. Springing inspections on us just shows how much they don't trust us.
bah! wrote:bladeracer wrote:Theoretically, our government is supposed to assume we are not all criminals. Springing inspections on us just shows how much they don't trust us.
Hardly an imposition.
Gamerancher wrote:By signing up for a licence, you are basically entering into a fairly strict "good behaviour" bond.
Really, it's no different to having a drivers licence, you are supposed to comply with the road rules.
I don't find it hard to comply with the NSW firearms reg's. I have way too much invested in this sport to risk it by getting lazy.
If I'm not using a firearm, it's locked up, simple. Anything that can go "bang" is also locked up, separately of coarse.
I won't make excuses for, or have anything to do with someone who doesn't do the right thing.
If someone starts telling me about something "special" they have or do, I walk away.
Gamerancher wrote:By signing up for a licence, you are basically entering into a fairly strict "good behaviour" bond.
Really, it's no different to having a drivers licence, you are supposed to comply with the road rules.
I don't find it hard to comply with the NSW firearms reg's. I have way too much invested in this sport to risk it by getting lazy.
If I'm not using a firearm, it's locked up, simple. Anything that can go "bang" is also locked up, separately of coarse.
I won't make excuses for, or have anything to do with someone who doesn't do the right thing.
If someone starts telling me about something "special" they have or do, I walk away.
Gamerancher wrote:By signing up for a licence, you are basically entering into a fairly strict "good behaviour" bond.
Really, it's no different to having a drivers licence, you are supposed to comply with the road rules.
I don't find it hard to comply with the NSW firearms reg's. I have way too much invested in this sport to risk it by getting lazy.
If I'm not using a firearm, it's locked up, simple. Anything that can go "bang" is also locked up, separately of coarse.
I won't make excuses for, or have anything to do with someone who doesn't do the right thing.
If someone starts telling me about something "special" they have or do, I walk away.
Mick460 wrote:Gamerancher wrote:By signing up for a licence, you are basically entering into a fairly strict "good behaviour" bond.
Really, it's no different to having a drivers licence, you are supposed to comply with the road rules.
I don't find it hard to comply with the NSW firearms reg's. I have way too much invested in this sport to risk it by getting lazy.
If I'm not using a firearm, it's locked up, simple. Anything that can go "bang" is also locked up, separately of coarse.
I won't make excuses for, or have anything to do with someone who doesn't do the right thing.
If someone starts telling me about something "special" they have or do, I walk away.
One can not simply compare a firearms licence to a drivers licence, if you make an unintentional error whilst on the road you will receive an appropriate fine and loss of demerit points, make numerous errors, or a severe enough error and it may lead to loss of licence.
Make an error in contravention of your licence or registration requirements and you WILL face the full force of the law and courts. I do hold you in great esteem for if I have interpreted your post correctly, and I think I have, it seems you have never made an error in storage requirements, unfortunately some of us are getting on in years and our once agile minds no longer retain the cat-like agility you still possess.
Does one deserve to lose a collection of firearms collected over a lifetime because they dropped a live primer on the floor and failed to notice, or perhaps left a few grains of powder still in the dispenser, or failing to realise there was still a primed case on your shelf?
Wouldn't education be a more appropriate approach in such cases, rather than destroying a law abiding citizens reputation, or taking away what may have been their reason to get out of bed in the morning? Perhaps explain what the person has done correct, and then where they may have done wrong, or how to improve upon their set up.
Perhaps use firearms storage inspections to come down hard on those who are in blatant contravention of their storage conditions, not those who have made smaller, unintentional errors. We aren't all robots and do on occasion make mistakes, not just in the shooting sports but in all facets of our lives. So perhaps rather than suggesting people are 'lazy', acknowledge that they are human.
bladeracer wrote:bah! wrote:bladeracer wrote:Theoretically, our government is supposed to assume we are not all criminals. Springing inspections on us just shows how much they don't trust us.
Hardly an imposition.
What are you referring to?
Mick460 wrote:unfortunately some of us are getting on in years and our once agile minds no longer retain the cat-like agility you still possess.
bah! wrote:bladeracer wrote:bah! wrote:bladeracer wrote:Theoretically, our government is supposed to assume we are not all criminals. Springing inspections on us just shows how much they don't trust us.
Hardly an imposition.
What are you referring to?
Inspections
bah! wrote:Mick460 wrote:unfortunately some of us are getting on in years and our once agile minds no longer retain the cat-like agility you still possess.
If you're getting on a bit and are concerned that both the cops will harass you for leaving a primer around, or forgetting to lock up your guns, maybe best to move on with happy memories before fines, or worse?