Biscuits wrote:So, I'd like to bring 7 firearms into NSW around January next year and put them on my NSW licence. 2 would be Category A and 5 would be Category B.
- When should I apply for a NSW firearms licence? Now? A bit later in the year?
- Do the police/firearms registry want to inspect your safe?
- Can the safe be visible in the house, or does it need to be out of sight in the house?
- Do the police/firearms registry interview you, to check you don't seem like a nutter?
- Can I ask for 7 PTAs at once, when I get my NSW licence, so all 7 guns can come over at the one time?
- Do I need to go to Service NSW to have my photo taken? I had a photo taken there late last year for the driving licence.
- Are the police/firearms registry likely to ask me for a UK criminal record check?
- Is there any way for recreational shooters to own suppressors in NSW?.... I own some suppressors on my UK licence as well as the 7 firearms I want to bring in to NSW.
* side topic, but having owned guns for a while overseas and being a range officer overseas, I didn't think the safe shooters course would make anybody who hadn't shot before particularly safe and definitely not as safe as being shown what to do with a live firearm and ammunition on a live range.
Larry wrote:Yes just like when you applied for residency they will ask you for a police check in every country you have lived for more than **** months. .
No1_49er wrote:The first port of call for your firearms, when they hit the Australian shores, is with Customs.
They will ensure that the trigger mechanism is safe by performing a "drop test". Oh yes, that is for real and there is a prescribed method!
But, if you can prove that the rifle is exclusively a 'target rifle' they may not perform the test. They have been known to break stocks.
Biscuits wrote:Larry wrote:Yes just like when you applied for residency they will ask you for a police check in every country you have lived for more than **** months. .
I’m an Aus citizen, so never had to do a AU police check before. Do you know how long you can have been/lived somewhere without having do get a criminal record check? U.K. is a definite but there could be other countries depending on what NSW police want.
I am a U.K. NRA member.
The only reason I asked when I should apply, is AFAIK once I get the NSW licence, even if there aren’t firearms registered on it, I still have the usage requirements, ie I’d have to rent/borrow a gun and go shoot it 4 times. Unless I can talk to the firearms registry to relax the usage requirement until I have firearms on my licence.
Just as an aside the British police did not ask for an Australian criminal record check, even though I’m an Aus citizen and have liven in Australia for more years than I’ve lived in the U.K.
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The red fire indicator sounds painful. I think I read about that before and that red nail polish was the work around….
Biscuits wrote:The only reason I asked when I should apply, is AFAIK once I get the NSW licence, even if there aren’t firearms registered on it, I still have the usage requirements, ie I’d have to rent/borrow a gun and go shoot it 4 times. Unless I can talk to the firearms registry to relax the usage requirement until I have firearms on my licence.
Gamerancher wrote:As your firearms are not registered in Australia, you will have to go through the hoops of importing firearms. That means export permits from the country of origin, import paperwork ( B709a ) and a willing dealer in NSW to pick them up from Borderforce/customs and register them in NSW. You can them obtain them with valid PTA's.
That can add up in $ terms, most exporter/importers don't mind charging exorbitant amounts for this type of service. There is also GST to be paid on the value of the firearm, that also includes cost of postage, which adds more to the import cost. So if these are rifles than can be easily obtained new or second-hand here, it may not be worth the exercise.
I have a rifle in the U.S that I leave there for competition shooting. With all of the Covaids travel restriction crap I thought I might bring it home, I was quoted a cost of around $1800. It's staying there.
Bugman wrote:I would suggest that you talk to an experienced importer of firearms and get some details of cost involved. I wanted to bring in a DB shotgun from the US, that I came across while travelling there. This was some time back, but even then the paperwork, wait time etc and the cost (got quotes from I think around 3 agencies that handled that type of import trans action). The cost killed it. But that is my experience in these matters. The shottie would have originally cost me $A700 at the time and eventually would have cost me $2100.
Still have the quotes.
Biscuits wrote:AFAIK there is no export charge out of the UK. There may be no GST or other import duties in Aus, as these are personal items which are normally exempt from GST if you move to Australia. But I'll research it.
On the usage requirements once I have a NSW licence but without any guns on the licence:
- Does the 4 uses a year mean a calendar year, a rolling year or something else?
- Does overseas use of firearms count?
Larry wrote:I would fly out with your favorite two guns bring them with you see the UK NRA for details. Use shooting in a comp as the reason. When you are here put your two guns into storage with a dealer. Then go about getting the PTA and then you can get the guns out of storage and transferred to yourself. Get your license done first.
bladeracer wrote:Biscuits wrote:AFAIK there is no export charge out of the UK. There may be no GST or other import duties in Aus, as these are personal items which are normally exempt from GST if you move to Australia. But I'll research it.
On the usage requirements once I have a NSW licence but without any guns on the licence:
- Does the 4 uses a year mean a calendar year, a rolling year or something else?
- Does overseas use of firearms count?
I think it's calendar year as I see people talk about having to complete them by a certain date. In the old days we had to attend every eight weeks minimum to maintain a pistol licence, I was living and working 3300kms from home for three years, so I flew back to Perth every second month for a night or two. Nowadays I think you can do the year's attendance all in one blast then do nothing for most of the year.
I suspect not because you're trying to prove to our Police that you need an Australian licence. But ask the Registry and your club.
Biscuits wrote:I'm thinking the hunting with land permission might be the easiest to just get the firearms licence. Then join SSAA after I have the licence and get target added.
This is dependent on the minimum land size though. My aunt owns about 40 acres / 16ha near Newcastle which I could use as a location with permission. But is that big enough a size of land?
bladeracer wrote:Biscuits wrote:I'm thinking the hunting with land permission might be the easiest to just get the firearms licence. Then join SSAA after I have the licence and get target added.
This is dependent on the minimum land size though. My aunt owns about 40 acres / 16ha near Newcastle which I could use as a location with permission. But is that big enough a size of land?
No minimum property size, just has to be rural zoned.
Lsfan wrote:bladeracer wrote:Biscuits wrote:I'm thinking the hunting with land permission might be the easiest to just get the firearms licence. Then join SSAA after I have the licence and get target added.
This is dependent on the minimum land size though. My aunt owns about 40 acres / 16ha near Newcastle which I could use as a location with permission. But is that big enough a size of land?
No minimum property size, just has to be rural zoned.
I've often wondered about that and have read different opinions. Some have related it to the effective range of different calibres and then it also comes down to whether you have neighbours nearby who could complain.
Are you saying if you have 5 acres of rural land with no neighbours in sight, you can legally fire any calibre rifle on your property?