No1Mk3 wrote:G'day Rider888,
I see you have some confusions, first there is no S.105 of the Act, you refer to S.105 of the old Firearm Regulations and it is important to know the difference of which legislation pertains to you. Under the current NSW Firearms Regulations 2017 the reference is in Part 10, S.106 (1) and you are corect in that participation is based on numbers of handgun KINDS owned during the reporting period of your club. No handguns, no participation in shoots required. As to the 2nd part of your query you are very much mistaken, clubs absolutely CAN make up their own rules regarding member participation and activites providing they do not minimise lawful rquirements and you agree to the clubs Terms & Conditions when you join that club. You are free to leave and join some other club if you don't like their rules, Cheers.
JohnV wrote:When you get an attendance receipt that says you attended for Hunting and Target shooting on the one receipt , is that one attendance or two attendances for two separate categories ? I see it as I have attended for 1 Hunting and 1 Target attendance on each receipt . That means I only have to get 4 receipts to cover 6 attendances not 6 receipts . No one can explain this to me because I think we are being ripped off . What constitutes an attendance me turning up or the tick on the T & H on the receipt . Where in the firearms act does it state what constitutes an attendance ?
Rider888 wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:G'day Rider888,
I see you have some confusions, first there is no S.105 of the Act, you refer to S.105 of the old Firearm Regulations and it is important to know the difference of which legislation pertains to you. Under the current NSW Firearms Regulations 2017 the reference is in Part 10, S.106 (1) and you are corect in that participation is based on numbers of handgun KINDS owned during the reporting period of your club. No handguns, no participation in shoots required. As to the 2nd part of your query you are very much mistaken, clubs absolutely CAN make up their own rules regarding member participation and activites providing they do not minimise lawful rquirements and you agree to the clubs Terms & Conditions when you join that club. You are free to leave and join some other club if you don't like their rules, Cheers.
Thank you for clarifying that no shoots are needed if one doesn’t own a firearm and as for clubs that make up their own sideline rules, this should be discouraged and they should be following what’s stipulated in the regulations
No1Mk3 wrote:JohnV wrote:When you get an attendance receipt that says you attended for Hunting and Target shooting on the one receipt , is that one attendance or two attendances for two separate categories ? I see it as I have attended for 1 Hunting and 1 Target attendance on each receipt . That means I only have to get 4 receipts to cover 6 attendances not 6 receipts . No one can explain this to me because I think we are being ripped off . What constitutes an attendance me turning up or the tick on the T & H on the receipt . Where in the firearms act does it state what constitutes an attendance ?
Are you talking rifle or handgun? rifle attendance is 4 times per year, and no, they won't accept 1 attendance as 2 because of your Genuine Reason.
Rider888 wrote:Thank you for clarifying that no shoots are needed if one doesn’t own a firearm and as for clubs that make up their own sideline rules, this should be discouraged and they should be following what’s stipulated in the regulations
bladeracer wrote:Rider888 wrote:Thank you for clarifying that no shoots are needed if one doesn’t own a firearm and as for clubs that make up their own sideline rules, this should be discouraged and they should be following what’s stipulated in the regulations
Clubs don't exist just to give you your minimum attendances, they are businesses and they have to make a profit, they need the freedom to decide how many attendances they need from members to stay afloat.
But I thought you could get your minimum attendances at any club, they don't have to be at your own club do they?
JohnV wrote:If your a SSAA member in NSW anyway you can go to any range affiliated with SSAA which is most of them and do an attendance but just make sure you keep your receipts . I just think that technically 1 receipt with T & H ticked is two attendances not one but who am I to question the money train to the SSAA .
JohnV wrote:That is not what I am talking about . I know it's the law but it's the SSAA who checks your attendances for the Government . It's the SSAA who set up the receipt books and payment system . All I am saying is should the SSAA see T & H ticked on the one receipt as two separate visits and I reckon they should but they don't because it makes them more money . Oh and by the way it was the SSAA that advised the Howard Government to have mandatory visits it's in Hansard . Government was not even going to call for mandatory visits . Far does not require 4 separate days at all . You are allowed to visit twice in one day if you go home for lunch and come back .
JohnV wrote:...it was the SSAA that advised the Howard Government to have mandatory visits it's in Hansard . Government was not even going to call for mandatory visits.