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Powder storage NSW

Post by headspace » 15 Dec 2014, 3:56 pm

I'm not sure about the legalities of storing powder.

I think we're only allowed 10kg but I'm unclear on storage.

I have mine in a locked container but it's made of timber. Good and solid but not metal. Would that pass?

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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by Seconds » 22 Dec 2014, 10:54 am

G'day headspace.

10kg is correct.

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If you are a dealer or have a firearms permit to sell under the Firearms Act 1996 – eg owner of a gun shop or shooting club – you are not required to be licensed with WorkCover provided you store for sale not more than 10kg of propellant powder and/or gunpowder. The quantity of ammunition, percussion caps and capped cases that may be stored without a licence from WorkCover is unlimited.

If you store for sale more than 10kg of propellant powder and/or gunpowder, you need a licence to store from WorkCover. Information on how to apply for this licence is available at workcover.nsw.gov.au

This licence allows storage on nominated premises, and at public fairs and trade shows, if security is maintained and you have notified WorkCover of the dates of the fairs or shows.

As a dealer or holder of a firearms permit to sell under the Firearms Act 1996, you are entitled to sell ammunition, percussion caps, capped cases and powders without a licence to supply from WorkCover.

If you are a shooter licensed under the Firearms Act 1996, you do not need a licence from WorkCover to store any quantity of ammunition, percussion caps, capped cartridges and up to 10kg of propellant powder and/or gunpowder, provided they are for your personal use with your firearm.

A licence to store is required if you store more than 10kg of powders.

If, as a dealer or holder of a permit to sell under the Firearms Act 1996, you need to transport more than 10kg of propellant/gunpowder – eg to a fair – a licence to transport is required, or you must use a licensed transport operator. A licence to transport is not required for any amount of ammunition, percussion caps or capped cases.
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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by Seconds » 22 Dec 2014, 10:57 am

As for storage, if storing a firearm in a wooden box is ok, must be ok for powder, no?

When any firearm is not actually being used or carried, it must be stored in a locked receptacle of a type approved by the Commissioner of Police and that is constructed of hard wood or steel and not easily penetrable.


Mine is steel so never really looked further soz, but the above is from NSW Pol website on storing firearms.
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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by anthillinside » 22 Dec 2014, 4:48 pm

Hi Headspace,

I asked our DFO the same question, I'm in Vic so the answer is different but he gave me good advice.

The Police don't make the laws, they just enforce them,and sometimes the Chief commissioners interpretation of the law is a little different from what you might read on web sites even the police site.

The "law" is in legislation so that's what you need to find.

In the case of gun powder its covered by Workcover as quoted by [Seconds] in post above.

Get the document it has reference to the relevant legislation, get and read the legislation and it's referenced acts etc. That is the "LETTER OF THE LAW"

Ever read any government legislation? :roll: read it 3 times and when you think you understand it, you've missed something :ugeek:

Get to know your local DFO, I hope he is a good guy (most are, they usualy get the job because they are interested in guns!) Don't be pushy, see if you can get an email address for him and ask if it's OK to email him questions, keep them short, remember he's busy, and remember, he's is not the one that made the law, he's just enforcing it so there is no point arguing with him, "Dont Shoot the messenger"
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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by subatom » 24 Dec 2014, 6:54 am

Email your registry, get a reply in writing.

Always a good idea.
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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by Seconds » 24 Dec 2014, 6:55 am

anthillinside wrote:Get the document it has reference to the relevant legislation


Headspace,

Here is the doc I was referencing FYI if you want the whole thing, from the Workcover site.

Explosives - Fact sheet 7 - Handling ammunition and powders
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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by ebr love » 24 Dec 2014, 6:57 am

Pic of the container by any chance?

Not to doubt you but 'solid' is a relative term, wouldn't hurt to ask others for their perspective/opinion on the container you're using.
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Re: Powder storage NSW

Post by Kelix » 24 Dec 2014, 7:01 am

I have mine in a heavy duty wooden tool chest. It's lockable, and it's in a moderately tough shed which is also locked.

Didn't have a problem.
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