PTA wait time in QLD

[Nails]

[quote="AussieYob"
…
I received an email from Shooters Union though, Weapons Licencing is no longer processing PTA's before your licence is issued.[/quote]

I heard this from a staff member at WL, surely they can’t just decide to do this without some kind of change to the Weapons Act.

[rc42]

The weapons Act and associated legislation mentions some mandatory wait times but has no mention of how quickly or in what order WLB need to process licenses and PTAs, they can take years if they want to.

The only thing keeping them reasonable is pressure from our politicians, so basically, we're lucky they work as fast as they do now.

[perentie]

I put in for two. both patch ball muzzle loaders One in .45 and one .50. The 50 cal was put in 6 weeks ago and has arrived. The 40 cal over 8 weeks ago and still not got it. I have phoned twice and been assured its coming but I think each time I phone its put on the bottom of the pile.

[Pighunter]

Lodged Cat A 24/04/2023
Approved 18/05/2023

[bucks_unlimited]

I lodged a Cat A PTA nearly 6 weeks ago and still nothing. Weapons Licensing page says that as of 11/06 PTA wait time is 13 days. I am tempted to call Bit am worried it will be put to the bottom of the pile. Then again I have waited 3x the listed wait time all for a single shot shotgun

[dirtjay]

FYI PTA
A bloke I know applied for PTA a day before I did.
He received his yesterday and I received mine today.
Both took 13days from application to approval

[Wapiti]

I'm getting concerned. The firearm I requested for PP use in November last year took probably just under 3 weeks, including me having to answer an email from them a week after I submitted it saying "Not enough info, please provide why etc. etc" which i find is actually really offensive.
Now, the one I submitted two weeks ago, again for PP use, generated another "not enough info, why do you need it" despite there being nowhere to include any extra info on genuine reason. Response to that is the form email "we will endeavour to respond within 28 days"

It's actually childish, pathetic and disrespectful.

[bladeracer]

I'm getting concerned. The firearm I requested for PP use in November last year took probably just under 3 weeks, including me having to answer an email from them a week after I submitted it saying "Not enough info, please provide why etc. etc" which i find is actually really offensive.
Now, the one I submitted two weeks ago, again for PP use, generated another "not enough info, why do you need it" despite there being nowhere to include any extra info on genuine reason. Response to that is the form email "we will endeavour to respond within 28 days"

It's actually childish, pathetic and disrespectful.

In Vic we have to write a supporting letter for _all_ CatB firearms after your first fifteen, every time. That's the only reason I've put the newest purchase on my girlfriend's licence, I couldn't be bothered doing yet another letter. They don't care how many CatA we have.

[alexjones]

Thats the same as QLD. Cat A firearms do not require a genuine reason. Yet they still require a PTA. Every other category you must provide a genuine reason. In practice they just rubber stamp everything however lately every now and then they want to see a bit more info.

[bladeracer]

Thats the same as QLD. Cat A firearms do not require a genuine reason. Yet they still require a PTA. Every other category you must provide a genuine reason. In practice they just rubber stamp everything however lately every now and then they want to see a bit more info.

Yep, we need genuine reason, but after your fifteenth CatB you need an additional letter explaining why your current CatB firearms aren't able to be used for the purpose.

[alexjones]

Thats the same as QLD. Cat A firearms do not require a genuine reason. Yet they still require a PTA. Every other category you must provide a genuine reason. In practice they just rubber stamp everything however lately every now and then they want to see a bit more info.

Yep, we need genuine reason, but after your fifteenth CatB you need an additional letter explaining why your current CatB firearms aren't able to be used for the purpose.

This would lead one to get quite creative I would imagine. Although different calibres, barrel lengths, stocks, action, etc etc I imagine it can be quite easy to fulfil this requirement.

[bladeracer]

This would lead one to get quite creative I would imagine. Although different calibres, barrel lengths, stocks, action, etc etc I imagine it can be quite easy to fulfil this requirement.

Yep, I never had one knocked back. I think it's more of "we asked the question, he responded, so we said okay." They probably just hope most people don't bother responding and let the permit lapse. Those of us that legitimately want the firearm are at least willing to put together a response.

[alexjones]

This would lead one to get quite creative I would imagine. Although different calibres, barrel lengths, stocks, action, etc etc I imagine it can be quite easy to fulfil this requirement.

Yep, I never had one knocked back. I think it's more of "we asked the question, he responded, so we said okay." They probably just hope most people don't bother responding and let the permit lapse. Those of us that legitimately want the firearm are at least willing to put together a response.

I guess it is an ass covering exercise. The police can say that they fulfilled their legal obligation in seeing the applicant has a genuine reason and the letter is the evidence to store in file.

I have a collector licence and you have to provide a letter on every PTA why the gun fits your collection and why its collectable. The police told me they are not gun experts they have no idea really. They just want to see that you put some effort in to your research so they can file the letter in your file as evidence.

Basically it is just red tape.

[jbarb]

I have submitted 2 PTAs in the past 3 months the longest wait was12 days the other only 10.

[GreyDog]

I thought I'd mention this as a newby to the Qld PTA system. My second firearms PTA and I elected the post to me option as I didn't have a dealer email address and I knew they didn't have my contact details. So after getting an email that my PTA had been approved and notification that I should wait up to 14 working days for the PTA to arrive in the post, I took a stab in the dark that the PTA may have been accidentally emailed to the dealer (before I contacted Firearms Licenecing about the 3 week delay). Sure enough, the dealer had the PTA. His comment was they email them no matter what the PTA application called for, as it saved them postage/delivery costs. OK, I'm happy with that, but it would be good if the authorities let us know that was the situation. Just saying, check with your dealer first if you were expecting a PTA by post. Cheers!

[alexjones]

I thought I'd mention this as a newby to the Qld PTA system. My second firearms PTA and I elected the post to me option as I didn't have a dealer email address and I knew they didn't have my contact details. So after getting an email that my PTA had been approved and notification that I should wait up to 14 working days for the PTA to arrive in the post, I took a stab in the dark that the PTA may have been accidentally emailed to the dealer (before I contacted Firearms Licenecing about the 3 week delay). Sure enough, the dealer had the PTA. His comment was they email them no matter what the PTA application called for, as it saved them postage/delivery costs. OK, I'm happy with that, but it would be good if the authorities let us know that was the situation. Just saying, check with your dealer first if you were expecting a PTA by post. Cheers!

You don't need their email. You only need to enter their dealer licence number and physical address. The police know who they are and send them the pta as they have that information.

Sending pta to dealer is always quicker.

[bigrich]

13 days waiting for a pta now , anytime now . i'm worse than a kid waiting for xmas morning

[TheNateOutdoors]

Hey guys, not trying to Hijack but im puchasing my first rifle and am a bit unsure about the PTA haha.

I have recieved confirmation of my approval of PTA (see screenshot below) - Approval from the 21/11/2024... I asked for it to be emailed directly to my gunshop..

Does that mean I can go pick up my new rifle on the 21/11/24?

Or does that email mean that from the 21/11/24 I will have to wait a mandatory waiting period of X amout of days?

I feel like I have waited long enough haha!

[alexjones]

Hey guys, not trying to Hijack but im puchasing my first rifle and am a bit unsure about the PTA haha.

I have recieved confirmation of my approval of PTA (see screenshot below) - Approval from the 21/11/2024... I asked for it to be emailed directly to my gunshop..

Does that mean I can go pick up my new rifle on the 21/11/24?

Or does that email mean that from the 21/11/24 I will have to wait a mandatory waiting period of X amout of days?

I feel like I have waited long enough haha!

Your first gun has a 28 day waiting period so it means that the 21/11/2024 will be 28 days after you applied for it so they will approve it on this day and send it to the dealer. The dealer may not receive it on this day though and may receive it a day or two later but on this day call him and ask.

You should of applied for your PTA when you applied for your licence(or the weeks after just use the case number) because the 28 day timeframe I mentioned runs concurrently with waiting for the licence so they will be approved at the same time you got your licence.

Also every 14 days gun dealers have to send their records of transactions(form 10) to the police but the police can take a while to update their records(form 10) so you can apply for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc etc gun and still have to wait the 28 days because they still think you don't own a gun because they have not updated their records.

[TheNateOutdoors]

Your first gun has a 28 day waiting period so it means that the 21/11/2024 will be 28 days after you applied for it so they will approve it on this day and send it to the dealer. The dealer may not receive it on this day though and may receive it a day or two later but on this day call him and ask.

You should of applied for your PTA when you applied for your licence(or the weeks after just use the case number) because the 28 day timeframe I mentioned runs concurrently with waiting for the licence so they will be approved at the same time you got your licence.

Also every 14 days gun dealers have to send their records of transactions(form 10) to the police but the police can take a while to update their records(form 10) so you can apply for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc etc gun and still have to wait the 28 days because they still think you don't own a gun because they have not updated their records.

Yeah perfect! That is exactly what i wanted to know. I will call the shop on the 21st and see if they have recieved it yet.

I will stick with the .22LR for the next few months, and then will put in another PTA for a .243

Thanks for your reply mate!

[alexjones]

Your first gun has a 28 day waiting period so it means that the 21/11/2024 will be 28 days after you applied for it so they will approve it on this day and send it to the dealer. The dealer may not receive it on this day though and may receive it a day or two later but on this day call him and ask.

You should of applied for your PTA when you applied for your licence(or the weeks after just use the case number) because the 28 day timeframe I mentioned runs concurrently with waiting for the licence so they will be approved at the same time you got your licence.

Also every 14 days gun dealers have to send their records of transactions(form 10) to the police but the police can take a while to update their records(form 10) so you can apply for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc etc gun and still have to wait the 28 days because they still think you don't own a gun because they have not updated their records.

Yeah perfect! That is exactly what i wanted to know. I will call the shop on the 21st and see if they have recieved it yet.

I will stick with the .22LR for the next few months, and then will put in another PTA for a .243

Thanks for your reply mate!

All good.

Remember a PTA once issued will last for 6 months before becoming void. So just apply for them and keep them on hand so when you want to purchase from the dealer you already have the permit. .

[TheNateOutdoors]

All good.

Remember a PTA once issued will last for 6 months before becoming void. So just apply for them and keep them on hand so when you want to purchase from the dealer you already have the permit. .

Now that's using your noggin! Did't even think about that!

I will apply for my .243 next week and keep the PTA aside for when im ready for something with a bit more poke.

Thanks mate

[bigrich]

well i put in a pta two days ago for my second 308 rifle , curious to see what happens and whether or not i'm contacted over why i need a second 308 . wlb have been scrutinizing firearm owners in qld more these days , any grief from them and i'm passing on any info to shooters union to be used as more facts in their advocacy fight against wlb . i'd been thinking about a lever gun in some topics i posted recently , but a 308 tikka stainless is the most sensible thing for what i need to do. rossi 44mag still has some appeal though

[perentie]

All good.

Remember a PTA once issued will last for 6 months before becoming void. So just apply for them and keep them on hand so when you want to purchase from the dealer you already have the permit. .

Now that's using your noggin! Did't even think about that!

I will apply for my .243 next week and keep the PTA aside for when im ready for something with a bit more poke.

Thanks mate

They want the serial number of the rifle you are buying. I had to get it from Pedersoli for the Carbine I just bought.. Dont know how you get around that applying in advance.
My permit arrived last week. Took 6 weeks or 31 working days. They work on working days not calendar days and last month had a lot of holidays

[bigrich]

All good.

Remember a PTA once issued will last for 6 months before becoming void. So just apply for them and keep them on hand so when you want to purchase from the dealer you already have the permit. .

Now that's using your noggin! Did't even think about that!

I will apply for my .243 next week and keep the PTA aside for when im ready for something with a bit more poke.

Thanks mate

They want the serial number of the rifle you are buying. I had to get it from Pedersoli for the Carbine I just bought.. Dont know how you get around that applying in advance.
My permit arrived last week. Took 6 weeks or 31 working days. They work on working days not calendar days and last month had a lot of holidays

I’ve never submitted a serial number yet. It’s a new rifle on back order from the big C on brisbanes north. It’ll be interesting to see if I get the run around.

[alexjones]

You only have to submit serial number for cat C and D Not A,B or H.

[Wapiti]

And expect a loooooong wait for AG's Dept in the Bludger State, Canberra, to get around to being happy with it. And add another level of genuine need proof.
Just to make the process 3-4x longer.