What is the REAL solution ?

[Die Judicii]

I thank all of the above for your input.
Great suggestions and would be solutions.

Now all we need is for those in power to wake up and take heed.

[bigrich]

I thank all of the above for your input.
Great suggestions and would be solutions.

Now all we need is for those in power to wake up and take heed.

public opinion polls are what drives political policy and action these days, fear of pollies losing their jobs. look at how things have changed since ON has risen to a all time high in public support . new leaders in the nats and libs that talk tougher than any leader of those parties that i can recall in 30 years . long overdue IMHO . increased support for ON in the polls has had a positive affect on attitude by our leaders . even labours rhetoric has changed . we've still got a ways to go but south oz election could be interesting in it's results

[Wapiti]

Thing is, trust is gone amongst the people who have been keeping educated in what politicians have actually done when they too had the chance.
Labor are a party of activists that have never lifted a tool or had to sack someone, or ever had anything to do with money in a real sense except watch public money flood into their bank accounts.
They haven't done anything to make Australia grow, or solve any problems.
The LNP are screaming now about everything, latest is the complete f*ckup with all our huge oil fields, imported fuel, not enough in-country storage or on-shore refining capacity. Sure, they started the subsidies to keep the last two open, but not solve the issues.
They had how many terms to do something about it? the late Jim Molan was into them about it constantly, their solution was to backstab him. The Libs are the same old rusted-on clowns that did nothing in the terms they had prior.
Geeze, even the gun laws, if they haven't taught the shooters they are being disrespected by their duopoly picks.

Again, despite the alternatives being unknown and too many of the voters not following politics enough to realise there have been too many mistakes in the past, will they actually do anything about it?

[Billo]

Sadly voters are going to be disappointed voting for One Nation, Pauline's voting record has alway attacked workers pay and conditions, she just votes for Big Business ( Foreign shareholders) and the Mining sector who pay little to no Corporate Tax.

Pauline won't even promote her Policies apart from her Bigoted statements about hard working migrants . One Nation have never been anything but the Pauline show and those who are deluded enough to think she is the solution are going to be sorry they wated their vote as Labor romp home to easy victories.

Facebook has fooled abunch fo people with fake Pauline ads

[mickb]

I dont believe One Nation has enough clout anyway. The Liberals and Labor are obviously in complete collusion now with the greatest attack on freedoms in our history and I doubt they are going to let upstarts get in. Im still reeling from them passing those hate speech laws. Have you seen what they are doing in the Uk with these laws now? 30 people arrested a day for online comments. And the majority arent extremists, a lot are mums and dads making political comments or deriding immigration.

Its hard time they are doing too. One woman got 24 months for condemining immigration. Apparently she has been 'greenlighted' by the guards too, which means she is open game. She will getting her head knocked in every day inside, probably handwashing the head dykes underwear for her in the cell toilet each night and getting whored to out to other butches for the price of a packet of lollies. Thats someone mum and wife btw.

I still cant believe this has happened. It is such a dangerous slippery slope we have entered into, literally a toe in water of how 130 3rd world dumps control their people. And all our systems, the bipartisan nature of politices folded in a single week to allow it.

[Billo]

Pauline was asked what she would do for young people in SA today and she put forward more apprenticeships

FACT, Pauline has consistently voted against funding for TAFE.

This Idiot just keeps on Gas lighting the younger generation.

[bigrich]

I dont believe One Nation has enough clout anyway. The Liberals and Labor are obviously in complete collusion now with the greatest attack on freedoms in our history and I doubt they are going to let upstarts get in. Im still reeling from them passing those hate speech laws. Have you seen what they are doing in the Uk with these laws now? 30 people arrested a day for online comments. And the majority arent extremists, a lot are mums and dads making political comments or deriding immigration.

Its hard time they are doing too. One woman got 24 months for condemining immigration. Apparently she has been 'greenlighted' by the guards too, which means she is open game. She will getting her head knocked in every day inside, probably handwashing the head dykes underwear for her in the cell toilet each night and getting whored to out to other butches for the price of a packet of lollies. Thats someone mum and wife btw.

I still cant believe this has happened. It is such a dangerous slippery slope we have entered into, literally a toe in water of how 130 3rd world dumps control their people. And all our systems, the bipartisan nature of politices folded in a single week to allow it.

i believe your right about ON not having enough clout . but i'll be voting for them anyway . as i stated in a previous post the rise of ON in the polling has had a affect on the duopoly . people make enough noise it can change things . look at the greenie environmentalists (with the focus of the word on mental ) they've caused our country to be in decline over their flawed ideology being adopted by our supposed leaders . we're supposed to be a democracy , i'll keep voting for ON
yeah, UK's gone of a cliff . hopefully reform will sort that out . the story you gave , happening to so many people will build to anger towards the uk guv'ment . and rightly so . the place has gone mad with leftist woke thinking . i can't believe some of the things i'm hearing . we have to stop the rot from happening here .

[mickb]

Yeah mate its a show over there. A lot of the complaints are legimate being criticisms of where they are placing these refugee hotels and all the rapes and harrasments of school kids. At the end of the day, the opinion is less important than the freedom to say it.

Whats really bothering me in Aistralia is the next generation of home owners...wont be, they will be renting. One of the major freedoms we fought for and attained was affordable shelter. It wasnt meant to be something the billionaires and our government deregulate and bubble into an international bookies game.

Everyone says well kids just have to work harder. I worked at 3x the salary needed to own a home, the kids need 8-12x their salary. Thats not about the next generation 'working harder'., its giving them a country with 1/4 the relative buying power. We basically inherited "Australia" from the boomers and handed our kids "Poland".

[mickb]

Pauline was asked what she would do for young people in SA today and she put forward more apprenticeships

FACT, Pauline has consistently voted against funding for TAFE.

This Idiot just keeps on Gas lighting the younger generation.

Mate seriously, you got the major parties voting on the greatest attacks on freedoms in our countries history,( not to mention colluding at state level to fry the largest gunowning state). They have run this country so far into the ground we cant even make a car or fridge or afford a house on a single income anymore... and you are more worried 'Pauline doesnt back TAFE...'

Im not saying she is the answer to everything, I think she is too small and frankly the big parties are using her, but when it comes to scorecards for general f*ckery she does not hold a candle to them.

[bigrich]

Yeah mate its a show over there. A lot of the complaints are legimate being criticisms of where they are placing these refugee hotels and all the rapes and harrasments of school kids. At the end of the day, the opinion is less important than the freedom to say it.

Whats really bothering me in Aistralia is the next generation of home owners...wont be, they will be renting. One of the major freedoms we fought for and attained was affordable shelter. It wasnt meant to be something the billionaires and our government deregulate and bubble into an international bookies game.

Everyone says well kids just have to work harder. I worked at 3x the salary needed to own a home, the kids need 8-12x their salary. Thats not about the next generation 'working harder'., its giving them a country with 1/4 the relative buying power. We basically inherited "Australia" from the boomers and handed our kids "Poland".

yep , spot on . all the young people i work with and know are angry . cost of living has got some on a knifes edge financially , let alone affording rent . i've been encouraging them to take action vote accordingly. make the effort to change things . give you one guess who lots are saying their gunna vote for

[mickb]

yeah big rich and one of the criticisms of the younger generation is they waste too much money on toys and holidays. Despite our 'outback' reputation 80% of the people and jobs are in just 15 cities or so.. When you need 1.4 million bucks to buy a house in sydney (!)and every other expense.is eating into you , you say fk it and just concentrate on trying to have a good time. Its called loss of hope.

Breaks my heart to see some kid working his A$$ off in Mcdonalds or a retail store or the local council, putting just the same effort I did, and where once these jobs( and that work effort) got you a decent start in housing, now you need two salaries at professional level to even come close

I get sick of blokes my age sitting back like wise knowledgeable judges too on the basis their land value had skyrocketed the last few years, pontificating like millionaire investors when all we had was being in the right place at the right time. We rode on the skirt tails of big business as it took real estate away from the kids and act like its a good thing. I fought in two fkn wars and while we werent defending the actual country, supposedly we were defending Australis interests abroad. To see one of the corner stones of a free country, which the Anzacs really did fight for, afforable shelter ,stripped away like this would have them turning in their graves.

Sorry Im ranting too much here, but Im so upset by it. This isnt what we fought for and its not a fair fight we have given the kids.

[Willie]

[quote="Billo"]Sadly voters are going to be disappointed voting for One Nation, Pauline's voting record has alway attacked workers pay and conditions, she just votes for Big Business ( Foreign shareholders) and the Mining sector who pay little to no Corporate Tax.

Pauline won't even promote her Policies apart from her Bigoted statements about hard working migrants . One Nation have never been anything but the Pauline show and those who are deluded enough to think she is the solution are going to be sorry they wated their vote as Labor romp home to easy victories.

Facebook has fooled abunch fo people with fake Pauline ads :thumbsdown:[/quote]

Wrong again Billo. The mining companies pay significant corporate tax etc, to the tune of billions of dollars. That is a fact.
Are you just "cherry picking" pseudo facts to prop up your opinion, again?

[Bugman]

Sadly voters are going to be disappointed voting for One Nation, Pauline's voting record has alway attacked workers pay and conditions, she just votes for Big Business ( Foreign shareholders) and the Mining sector who pay little to no Corporate Tax.

Pauline won't even promote her Policies apart from her Bigoted statements about hard working migrants . One Nation have never been anything but the Pauline show and those who are deluded enough to think she is the solution are going to be sorry they wated their vote as Labor romp home to easy victories.

Facebook has fooled abunch fo people with fake Pauline ads

Wrong again Billo. The mining companies pay significant corporate tax etc, to the tune of billions of dollars. That is a fact.
Are you just "cherry picking" pseudo facts to prop up your opinion, again?

Now that's a valid point in my books.

[Billo]

Pauline was asked what she would do for young people in SA today and she put forward more apprenticeships

FACT, Pauline has consistently voted against funding for TAFE.

This Idiot just keeps on Gas lighting the younger generation.

Mate seriously, you got the major parties voting on the greatest attacks on freedoms in our countries history,( not to mention colluding at state level to fry the largest gunowning state). They have run this country so far into the ground we cant even make a car or fridge or afford a house on a single income anymore... and you are more worried 'Pauline doesnt back TAFE...'

Im not saying she is the answer to everything, I think she is too small and frankly the big parties are using her, but when it comes to scorecards for general f*ckery she does not hold a candle to them.

One Nation have 1% of all Politicians across Australia at a State and Federal level, they are a Facebook Shiller wet dream.

They do Bigotry and Intolerance and Im happy to point out Pauline's voting record.

She isnt the Solution and when One Nation get a high vote they strip votes off the Nationals and the Liberals and you get an easy Labor victory. Thats a fact

[Billo]

Sadly voters are going to be disappointed voting for One Nation, Pauline's voting record has alway attacked workers pay and conditions, she just votes for Big Business ( Foreign shareholders) and the Mining sector who pay little to no Corporate Tax.

Pauline won't even promote her Policies apart from her Bigoted statements about hard working migrants . One Nation have never been anything but the Pauline show and those who are deluded enough to think she is the solution are going to be sorry they wated their vote as Labor romp home to easy victories.

Facebook has fooled abunch fo people with fake Pauline ads

Wrong again Billo. The mining companies pay significant corporate tax etc, to the tune of billions of dollars. That is a fact.
Are you just "cherry picking" pseudo facts to prop up your opinion, again?

Mate they pay stuff all Corporate Tax, thats a fact, what they pay are STATE royalties, dont confuse the two. try hard Judy

[Billo]

Sadly voters are going to be disappointed voting for One Nation, Pauline's voting record has alway attacked workers pay and conditions, she just votes for Big Business ( Foreign shareholders) and the Mining sector who pay little to no Corporate Tax.

Pauline won't even promote her Policies apart from her Bigoted statements about hard working migrants . One Nation have never been anything but the Pauline show and those who are deluded enough to think she is the solution are going to be sorry they wated their vote as Labor romp home to easy victories.

Facebook has fooled abunch fo people with fake Pauline ads

Wrong again Billo. The mining companies pay significant corporate tax etc, to the tune of billions of dollars. That is a fact.
Are you just "cherry picking" pseudo facts to prop up your opinion, again?

Now that's a valid point in my books.

You would also be wrong, they pay stuff all Tax, they do pay some State based Royalties

[mickb]

Pauline was asked what she would do for young people in SA today and she put forward more apprenticeships

FACT, Pauline has consistently voted against funding for TAFE.

This Idiot just keeps on Gas lighting the younger generation.

Mate seriously, you got the major parties voting on the greatest attacks on freedoms in our countries history,( not to mention colluding at state level to fry the largest gunowning state). They have run this country so far into the ground we cant even make a car or fridge or afford a house on a single income anymore... and you are more worried 'Pauline doesnt back TAFE...'

Im not saying she is the answer to everything, I think she is too small and frankly the big parties are using her, but when it comes to scorecards for general f*ckery she does not hold a candle to them.

One Nation have 1% of all Politicians across Australia at a State and Federal level, they are a Facebook Shiller wet dream.

They do Bigotry and Intolerance and Im happy to point out Pauline's voting record.

She isnt the Solution and when One Nation get a high vote they strip votes off the Nationals and the Liberals and you get an easy Labor victory. Thats a fact

Whats the difference stripping votes off the liberals when they collude with labor to wipe guns in NSW and free speech at the Federal level anyway? They might as well be the same party.

The worst type of 'intolerance' is the intolerance of free speech and freedoms. The worst attack on our freedoms in history just occurred and you have squeezed past that elephant in the room, three times now, to gripe about something else.

Mate if is she is a schill its for you Liberal/labour punters. They destroy as much as they want and give you a bogeyman to talk about.

[bigrich]

yeah big rich and one of the criticisms of the younger generation is they waste too much money on toys and holidays. Despite our 'outback' reputation 80% of the people and jobs are in just 15 cities or so.. When you need 1.4 million bucks to buy a house in sydney (!)and every other expense.is eating into you , you say fk it and just concentrate on trying to have a good time. Its called loss of hope.

Breaks my heart to see some kid working his A$$ off in Mcdonalds or a retail store or the local council, putting just the same effort I did, and where once these jobs( and that work effort) got you a decent start in housing, now you need two salaries at professional level to even come close

I get sick of blokes my age sitting back like wise knowledgeable judges too on the basis their land value had skyrocketed the last few years, pontificating like millionaire investors when all we had was being in the right place at the right time. We rode on the skirt tails of big business as it took real estate away from the kids and act like its a good thing. I fought in two fkn wars and while we werent defending the actual country, supposedly we were defending Australis interests abroad. To see one of the corner stones of a free country, which the Anzacs really did fight for, afforable shelter ,stripped away like this would have them turning in their graves.

Sorry Im ranting too much here, but Im so upset by it. This isnt what we fought for and its not a fair fight we have given the kids.

your not ranting at all mate, it's the truth . i'm a sheet metal worker , and a young tradie i work with ,26 years old, lives 40 mins drive from work on the outer fringes of logan , he's on $34 a hour , which was good money a few years ago . but his rents just gone up to $700 pw , he's got a missus and 2 year old son and they're struggling to make ends meet . absolutely no chance of saving for a house and with the flow on effects of diesel yet to impact the cost of living even further , he's worried and pissed of . and there's thousands more like him. i predict a BIG shift to ON next election . i could be wrong, but i hope i'm right. the attitude of our leaders over the last 30 years is deplorable , they have to start building the nation like they did in the post WW2 years , to the benefit of ALL australians , instead of the UN and green pandering ideology they currently subscribe too . the best thing all of us can do is encourage as many people as possible to get out and vote for change