Letter to YOUR minister for Police

[Heckler303]

That also works too

[Rocker]

[email protected]

Suppose that would help,lol.

Yes my psychic powers are a bit rusty these days so I need things explained to me

[David Brown]

Just sent my submission in……. keep it going folks.

[Harper]

Just sent my submission in……. keep it going folks.

[Sam45]

LOL, I received pretty much the same generic crap late last week.

[Heckler303]

By balancing, they mean mostly what they want, and half-ass considerations for those who actually want something better to happen.

[Supporter]

Photocopied with a stamp made up for that signature probably.

[David Brown]

LOL, I received pretty much the same generic crap late last week.

Do you mean the Qld Police Minister has replied? I have not seen one from her office yet.

The one from the AG and state member was pathetic to say the least. Same BS and not addressing the question.

[Sam45]

LOL, I received pretty much the same generic crap late last week.

Do you mean the Qld Police Minister has replied? I have not seen one from her office yet.

The one from the AG and state member was pathetic to say the least. Same BS and not addressing the question.

This guy

The Hon Michael Keenan,

MC15-002093
1 September 2015

Dear Mr .....
I refer to your email dated 19 July 2015 to the Minister for Justice, the Hon Michael Keenan MP, regarding the National Firearms Agreement (NFA) and lever action shotguns. The Minister has asked me to respond to you on his behalf.
The NFA sets out a national approach to the regulation of firearms, and aims to strike a balance between the interests of licensed gun owners and the need of the broader community to live safely and securely.
In January of this year, the Martin Place Siege Review recommended that the Commonwealth, States and Territories simplify the regulation of the legal firearms market through an update of the technical elements of the NFA. All States and Territories agreed to this recommendation at the May 2015 meeting of the Law, Crime and Community Safety Council (LCCSC). Ministers and attorneys-general from all jurisdictions will consider any proposed updates at the November 2015 meeting of the LCCSC. Updates adopted by the LCCSC will then be considered by first ministers from the Commonwealth and each State and Territory at the first Council of Australian Governments (COAG) meeting in 2016.
The Government is conscious that the regulation of firearms is of great interest to many members of the Australian community. For this reason, in addition to incorporating advice from all federal and state law enforcement and justice agencies, the review of the NFA will also involve consultation with the firearms community (industry, recreational groups and licensed shooters) and community safety organisations in order to produce sensible, practical changes where required.
As part of that consultation process, on 12 August 2015, the Government announced the establishment of an Industry Reference Group to provide advice to Government and the Firearms and Weapons Policy Working Group (FWPWG) – which comprises representatives of all Australian Governments – on any updates to the technical elements of the NFA.
Minister Keenan will chair the Industry Reference Group and will meet with members in the lead up to first ministers considering any proposed update to the NFA at the first COAG meeting of 2016.
The review of the NFA is not about targeting law abiding gun owners, it is about ensuring that the NFA remains current in light of any changes to the firearms market since it was signed almost two decades ago.

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The Government is also pursuing other recommendations from the Martin Place Siege Review including considering further measures to deal with illegal firearms. This is being progressed at Ministerial level through LCCSC and through the FWPWG. Removing illegal firearms from our community will remain a key Government focus.
As you are aware, the Commonwealth Government has temporarily prohibited the importation of lever action shotguns with a magazine capacity of more than five rounds. The Government has taken this step on the advice of Commonwealth, State and Territory law enforcement agencies and officials pending the outcomes of the review of the NFA.
To allow the Government to consult with relevant stakeholders and appropriately consider the classification of this firearm as part of the NFA review, the Government has committed to apply a sunset clause of 12 months to the temporary ban.
This action is not pre-judging the outcome of the NFA update – it’s about listening to the advice of our law enforcement agencies and ensuring a proper process of consultation on the classification of this type of firearm is undertaken before a final decision is made through the NFA process.
Thank you for raising your concerns with the Government.

Yours sincerely
Catherine Smith
Assistant Secretary Crime Prevention and Federal Offenders Branch

[Title_II]

When were police delegated the task of violating and dictating our rights? I thought they worked for us, I had no idea we worked for them.

This silly argument comes up in America from time to time. They can always get anti gun opinions from several big city police chiefs (politicians) and from police unions (political hacks).

Want to know what police really think? Here is the largest survey ever performed on verified and registered police officers with respect to gun law policy. If you have a few minutes, this will completely knock your socks off. We are being lied to about what "police" think.

http://police-praetorian.netdna-ssl.com ... y_2013.pdf

Keep in mind, this survey was performed right after the Sandy Hook massacre in the States, when gun control efforts were in their heyday (and failed). Statistical analysis of all polls in the US indicate that firearms issue polls are biased low by 20-30% during periods of gun control pushes or media outrage.

[Sam45]

I reckon it would be the same here. The biggest problem I feel in Australia is we as shooters are not united enough! IMHO of course

[Heckler303]

I sent off my own e-mail to the NFA submissions, looking forward to see see what I get back from them.

[David Brown]

Yeah….the AG's department must be printing that letter of BS for everyone. We all write different letters, they spam us all with BS.

[SendIt]

Yes we'll all get the same BS politically correct reply.

Still does good to keep the pressure on.

[Sam45]

Yes we'll all get the same BS politically correct reply.

Still does good to keep the pressure on.

Lets the Muppet's know we are standing united and will not put up with their bullsh#t no longer

[beerd]

Lets the Muppet's know we are standing united and will not put up with their bullsh#t no longer

Old mate Tony finally learned everyone is sick of him