Oldbloke wrote:
Mmmm I thought it was about 10,982 gun related murders per 350ml . And does not include any other deaths such as accidents and suicides
This is a perfect example of fudging the figures. Or was it a typo? A good reason not to rely on any old site on the internet.
The figures I base my view on are the most up to date and reliable the USA produce, and that is direct from the FBI, one such report showed a total of 38+ thousand deaths due to firearms (let it soak in for minute before we go ant further that they have close to 300k deaths from incompetence in medicine and surgery) as said before by capitalist, the over reaching amount of them are from gang related, drug trade related and turf war shootings and suicide, then there is in the vicinity of 1000 accidental discharges/accidents that are also factored in, so we are looking closer to see that there are infact now 30k+ of these deaths now accounted for, infact closer to 35k, so that leaves us with 5k maximum of murders by general pop, but then you also need to factor in how many of those were justifiable homicide, and to keep that in perspective firearms stop between 300,000 and 3,000,000 violent crimes a year in the United state so sayeth the FBI and CDC, who have both done conclusive studies, so, given this you can probably and most likely Say that at least 2k of those deaths were people more or less asking for it.
After you chisel away all the bulls**t, NBC and CBS and so on's lefty bulls**t and misinformation and the roundabout of lefty politicians making up their own flawed and fake stats, you end up with a very small part of what is a much larger population than ours who actually committed murder or killed someone (manslaughter) with a firearm that was a) legally purchased, b) owned by someone who passed background checks and C) was imported or manufactured legally in the United states.
Counting the criminal aspect into the total does nothing for anyone, especially here where even less law abiding people shoot people and even less people are eligible for a firearms license, because those people procure these items despite the law and to spite the law. Only a complete idiot believes that firearm laws stop criminals.