Sunday thoughts, Realistic NFA Reform

[CAVEMAN]

Well maybe another way to look at that is maybe its not the laws of the country that needs to change, but rather the country that you live. I understand people not wanting to be told what to do, but at the same time as humans we do need rules from the minor to the severe. Maybe aa change in scenery is a better choice for someone like yourself.

This is by no means a dig at you, just my grasping of the situation you just said.

I personally am happy with a society governed by appropriate rules. I like knowing peoples cars are mostly safe and legal. I like knowing my food is of a certain quality. I like knowing that there is a police force there to protect the community and i don't need to. But i feel comfortable with these rules and also feel safe.

[Ziege]

What you (Caveman), Womble and the others who love to be policed don't see, and can't tell the difference between is liberty and slavery.

If you have been anywhere that has recovered from a dictatorship, empireal rule of the socialist/communist kind, or totalitarian control of any sort you will find conclusively that they would rather die on their feet than live on their knees, it's subtle here in Australia, less subtle now in Canada and not subtle in the UK, but what is intrinsically true about all of them is that they are dictatorships in as much as how the people are limited in almost every way, everything is legislated, everything is restricted. A person from a former dictatorship looking at how we live just cringes.

Iv had more than a few of my overseas pals who are from such places telling me they don't know how I or anyone else can tolerate living like this. See like it or not, you're all pandering to a form of tyranny, and not the tin foil hat kind, the 1996 gun ban was nothing more than just that, the overlord cracking the whip over the serfs because one of them got out of line so they are all punished, that's how sick and twisted it really is.

[AussieCapitalist]

Well maybe another way to look at that is maybe its not the laws of the country that needs to change, but rather the country that you live. I understand people not wanting to be told what to do, but at the same time as humans we do need rules from the minor to the severe. Maybe aa change in scenery is a better choice for someone like yourself.

This is by no means a dig at you, just my grasping of the situation you just said.

I personally am happy with a society governed by appropriate rules. I like knowing peoples cars are mostly safe and legal. I like knowing my food is of a certain quality. I like knowing that there is a police force there to protect the community and i don't need to. But i feel comfortable with these rules and also feel safe.

Remember though Caveman community safety is every bodies responsibility. Thats why the concept of a well armed militia is vital to a safe society because ultimately it is we the people who must police the government as they are our employees.

QLD is my home mate and I love it but it is not the QLD I grew up in. It seems foreign to what it use to be. Things have changed for the worse in every way. If things get worse and more laws are brought in I may have to be a political refugee and claim political asylum in America. I know that sounds silly but I worry what the future holds living in this country. We literally dont even have freedom of speech.

[bigrich]

In regards to voting for labor, the labor of days gone are not the labor of today. They use to be socially conservative family based patriots who were fiscally a bit more worker based. Now they are just full blown the party of inner city leftist elitist type people who parody the greens with their insanity.

AGREE 1000% !

[Blackened]

I've just deleted 15 posts arguing about the size of angle grinder discs in a topic about firearm law reform... If you're arguing about this you've clearly gone past the point of constructively contributing to the conversation and just have your knickers in a twist that someone else doesn't agree with your opinion.

To those involved... Not everyone agrees with you. Get over it.

Tone down the agro and keep it on topics. If you can't, don't participate in the topic any longer.

[bigrich]

Thanks for stepping in blackened . Caveman started this post to look at realistic firearm reform in this country, and to his credit, tried to understand his critics . Unity ,which is what’s needed to make headway with reform was not really apparent . Instead of ranting online some folks need to become members of pro active firearms clubs/groups that will lobby politicians for reform. Pauline Hanson wanted to get semi auto 22’s and pump shotty’s reveiwed. Love or hate her, with tens of thousands of gun club members united behind her the pollies would have to listen

JMHO

[Ziege]

Well unity is impossible given the representation of firearm owners in this country, one wants semi automatic firearms and ten more shut them down about not "needing it" until that attitude f#cks off there will be no unity.

[Farmerpete]

Well unity is impossible given the representation of firearm owners in this country, one wants semi automatic firearms and ten more shut them down about not "needing it" until that attitude f#cks off there will be no unity.

Maybe this problem should be addressed by the ssaa or shooters union via a poll of their members get a list of what reforms are specifically wanted to be reviewed and then work towards that, publishing the list and the priority among shooters would go far towards uniting us all.

[Blackened]

Already this is going down the same path as before the warning.

Locked.