CrackThump wrote:"Concealed weapons license".?? Whats that all about then.? Youre not talking about concealled carry are you.?
trekin wrote:Section 54 of the Weapons Act;
54 Possession or use of weapon by unlicensed person in
primary production sometimes allowed
(1) In this section—
primary producer means a person who—
(a) has a licence; and
(b) usually carries out primary production on land (the
primary producer’s land), even if only as an agent or
employee of another person.
weapon means a weapon that a primary producer possesses
under the authority of a licence.
(2) A person who is an agent, employee or member of the
immediate family of the primary producer may possess or use
a weapon on the primary producer’s land, even if the person
does not hold a licence for that category of weapon, if the
person—
(a) assists the primary producer with primary production on
the land; and
(b) is eligible to obtain a licence to possess a weapon; and
(c) only uses the weapon with the express consent of the
primary producer; and
(d) only uses the weapon in connection with carrying out
primary production on the land. Note sub section (1) (b).
Also, any firearm regristered to the primary producer is actually registered to the property, and must be stored and only used at that property.
trekin wrote:CrackThump wrote:"Concealed weapons license".?? Whats that all about then.? Youre not talking about concealled carry are you.?
In QLD, a licence for a Cat H is actually called a "concealed weapons" licence.
Kelsey Cooter wrote:I don't know the rules around being family and the occupational licence. All I know is for me personally, I was able to get my cat H occupational licence for my grandmothers station even though I've never been an employee.
My licence conditions were OC4 before I got my cat C and is now PP1so I could be wrong, but I don't think you'll need to do a form 4B, as you will automatically be applying to change to OC4 by applying for your Cat C.
Something I didn't realise until I had my Category C is that with an OC4 occupational licence you can't use a B709 import permit. There might a way to buy new (I don't remember, but might of been by writing to the Governor General or something) but you are more or less stuck in the second hard market, which can be expensive because all the collectors are in the same boat
30roundsisstandard wrote:Thanks Kelsey. That was some pretty solid information. I didn't know that being family could possibly change things and I didn't know that if the land owner has cat C that I would be able to shoot those weapons on a cat A and B (if I understood what you said correctly. Correct me if i'm wrong).
I was just about ready to go down a similar road that you suggested from the start with a 6 page essay at my disposal however, I got stumped at the part about being a "paid" employee and even though as of next year I will be frequently attending the property and will even do work I wont be on the books as a paid employee. I wasn't sure how to get around the paid part thus I did not want to tread in that grey area as I didn't know enough nor did I want to end up with 2 years in Jail.
If I had to guess the next step for me would be to fill out a form 4B to make my licence Occupational and not recreational and resubmit my form 1 Annex as a rural employee? Any advice to get around the paid employee part would be greatly appreciated. If i had to guess adding some additional words in that essay about being family and pest control being my duty to the family or something along those lines?
Please let me know if i'm on the right track.
bladeracer wrote:30roundsisstandard wrote:Thanks Kelsey. That was some pretty solid information. I didn't know that being family could possibly change things and I didn't know that if the land owner has cat C that I would be able to shoot those weapons on a cat A and B (if I understood what you said correctly. Correct me if i'm wrong).
I was just about ready to go down a similar road that you suggested from the start with a 6 page essay at my disposal however, I got stumped at the part about being a "paid" employee and even though as of next year I will be frequently attending the property and will even do work I wont be on the books as a paid employee. I wasn't sure how to get around the paid part thus I did not want to tread in that grey area as I didn't know enough nor did I want to end up with 2 years in Jail.
If I had to guess the next step for me would be to fill out a form 4B to make my licence Occupational and not recreational and resubmit my form 1 Annex as a rural employee? Any advice to get around the paid employee part would be greatly appreciated. If i had to guess adding some additional words in that essay about being family and pest control being my duty to the family or something along those lines?
Please let me know if i'm on the right track.
It wouldn't hurt to throw a few hundred bucks to a firearms lawyer to draft the application for you. The three that spring immediately to mind:
Simon Munslow
Ross Williamson
Karrie Louden
30roundsisstandard wrote:
last of all is it actually possible to go out and shoot collectible weapons at events. I have been told that it is possible to do this at certain events however the details are few and far between on where these events are around Queensland.
Cheers.
30roundsisstandard wrote:I can confirm that buying new can be done with an Attorney General Permit: https://firearms.homeaffairs.gov.au/App ... nForm.aspx
As far as I know this is the route that must be taken if you cant fill out a B709 or if you are importing new Category D weapons. The difference between the two is that the AG Permit takes longer and a few more phone calls/ emails to make happen.
Chinballs wrote:AG permission is more than just a few phone calls/emails to make happen. You need quite a lot of support and it is a slow process. People either don't qualify or give up and that's why beat up pieces of crap Cat C and D stuff sell for a small fortune on the second hand market.