Question about competition shoots required for Cat H license

[Bauer]

Hi guys I'm new here I've asked this question in another forums but got no replies and also emailed the weapons licensing branch directly but got no response

I'm in QLD by the way I recently did the safety course for category A, B and H firearms I've applied for the cat A & B license now just waiting for it. I wanted to eventually get a H license too. In QLD as far as I know you need to be a member of a club for 6 months and have done 3 competition shoots. Do these competition shoots need to be with pistols (cat H) or can they even be done with cat A and B firearms?

The reason I ask is because I asked this shotgun club here on the Gold Coast about it and they said they do do competition shoots but it wouldn't help me with a category H license because they only fire shotguns and referred me to a pistol club. This sort of perplexed me because, if these required competition shoots are meant to be done with pistols, how can that be done when I don't even have the pistol license yet? Do you need to hire pistols at the range?

Sorry for the rant I know it's a stupid question with probably a very simple answer and I'm just missing something here but any help clearing this up for me would be greatly appreciated thanks

[Fozzy]

Most pistol clubs have guns you can hire/loan as part of your membership (In WA anyway) You have to do an approved safety course though a club in WA to actually be able to get a H cat license. So all the clubs have their own guns to allow for the trainees to do said courses. The club also allows you to use them from the time your course finishes and your license is approved.

Some clubs also allow you to purchase a firearm through them and they hold it for you on the club license until yours clears.

Thats the basics.

[Chronos]

welcome to the forum Bauer, i'm not familiar with Qld regulations so I can't help,

hopefully someone will chime in

Chronos

[Apollo]

"Bauer" At times I have read through the various Firearms Acts from a number of states, I do have some legal background so can make sence of most of the wording.

Not the point here but if you have not had an email responce then I would both resend the email or ring and wait for someone to answer. In NSW they are pretty good and tell you how many people are waiting, suggest not doing it on a Mobile Phone unless you have free calls and some time to wait.

Going through reading the laws and I have not had reason to follow this point but close. I am a Primary Producer and as such I have Category A,B & C for Hunting & Varmint control. I wanted to attend and compete in National Target Competitions so I had to have "Target" endorsed on my License. Now, just for that reason I need to attend a minimum of 4 Shoots at a Rifle Range and mark my attendance as "T" for Target.

I am pretty confident even though you are in Queensland the same will apply. I will say that no attendance using a Rifle will count for your required attendances per year. You need to attend a Pistol Range, sign in as a Pistol Shooter and do your required number of attendances.... Keep the Range Receipts in case they don't submit them and you get questioned.

As I am and explained, if I do not complete my 4 attendances in the recording year (April - March) they will send me a letter, Please Explain, or I will loose not only Target on my Licence but my Firearms Licence in general.

Pistol attendances I'm not sure on the number but if you have a Category H Licence then you need to do the required number of attendances at a Pistol Range, you don't have to shoot, just sign in, pay your money, take your receipt.

Pretty sure this will be Australia wide.

[Bauer]

"Bauer" At times I have read through the various Firearms Acts from a number of states, I do have some legal background so can make sence of most of the wording.

Not the point here but if you have not had an email responce then I would both resend the email or ring and wait for someone to answer. In NSW they are pretty good and tell you how many people are waiting, suggest not doing it on a Mobile Phone unless you have free calls and some time to wait.

Going through reading the laws and I have not had reason to follow this point but close. I am a Primary Producer and as such I have Category A,B & C for Hunting & Varmint control. I wanted to attend and compete in National Target Competitions so I had to have "Target" endorsed on my License. Now, just for that reason I need to attend a minimum of 4 Shoots at a Rifle Range and mark my attendance as "T" for Target.

I am pretty confident even though you are in Queensland the same will apply. I will say that no attendance using a Rifle will count for your required attendances per year. You need to attend a Pistol Range, sign in as a Pistol Shooter and do your required number of attendances.... Keep the Range Receipts in case they don't submit them and you get questioned.

As I am and explained, if I do not complete my 4 attendances in the recording year (April - March) they will send me a letter, Please Explain, or I will loose not only Target on my Licence but my Firearms Licence in general.

Pistol attendances I'm not sure on the number but if you have a Category H Licence then you need to do the required number of attendances at a Pistol Range, you don't have to shoot, just sign in, pay your money, take your receipt.

Pretty sure this will be Australia wide.

Thanks for the replies

I think you are talking about the required shooting attendances to keep your license. I think that is different to the one I'm talking about which is 3 competition shoots required before you can apply for cat H license


I currently do not have any license, I have done the safely course for cat a,b and h (all in one) and have recently applied for a category a&b license. To get, or rather, to apply for a category H license I need to (amongst a couple of other things) attend 3 competition shoots. I wanted to know if these competition shoots I must attend must be pistol shoots. And if so, how does that work when I don't have a pistol license. Unless of course I have to hire their (the club) pistols.

[Fozzy]

Just find a pistol club and send them an email mate. Im sure they will let you know the process.

[Apollo]

Ring, visit your nearest club and speak with the Club President / Training Officer or whatever and ask about the facts. Best bet is the Queensland Police Firearms Branch.

[yoshie]

As part of you're training after joining a club you need to complete a certain number of matches in the first 6 months, after you have completed them and the mandatory waiting period, the club sign off on them and then you can submit your licence application.

[Vati]

Welcome to the forum Bauer

[yoshie]

As part of you're training after joining a club you need to complete a certain number of matches in the first 6 months, after you have completed them and the mandatory waiting period, the club sign off on them and then you can submit your licence application.

And yes they have to be handgun comps with a cat h gun.

[nords]

G'day Bauer

[AusC]

Do these competition shoots need to be with pistols (cat H) or can they even be done with cat A and B firearms?

I'm almost certain they have to be with the category H firearm.

It's number of shoots required per class of handgun

e.g.

(a) an air pistol;
(b) a centre-fire pistol with a calibre of not more than .38 inch or a black-powder pistol;
(c) a centre-fire pistol with a calibre of more than .38 inch but not more than .45 inch;
(d) a rim-fire pistol.

You need to do the required number of shoots for each one you have to justify having it to the Gov.

Can't substitute for them for longarms.

[Bauer]

Thanks guys,

I talked to an SSAA guy he said yes, the shoots need to be done with cat H guns and yes, you need to borrow them in their range.

Needs to be a minimum of 3 in qld anyway.

[AusC]

Yeah, expected as much.

No cutting corners on the pistol licensing.