Sharing safe with other shooter QLD

[brisb]

G'day all,

Pretty sure this is right but double checking with the guys in the know (you).

I'm licensed, rifles registered to my name, currently holding the safe keys.

As long as the misses has a license too, she can use the safe, yes?

Just double checking before I do something stupid

[MeccaOz]

Not 100% on QLD Laws .. But in WA you can only share a safe if you have the exact same rifles licensed to you as the other person, any rifles they have they arent licensed to you, cant be kept in that safe and visa versa

[VICHunter]

Surely it's not the exact same rifle?

Just the same category?

If person 1 has cat B firearms and person 2 has cat A/B license, they can share the safe no problem.

If person 1 has cat B firearms and person 2 has cat A license only, they can not share safe which contains cat B firearms.

That's the way it is in Victoria.

[MeccaOz]

Well Im sure WA has the strictest laws on it, doesnt it always. Anyway yeah thats how it is in WA, But I think your right about Vic, so Ive been lead to believe ... The category Idea was floated over here, but the cops wouldnt budge at all on it.

[Vati]

So you can have a Ruger 4 shot bolt action .308 but can't have access to your mates Sako 4 shot bolt action .308?

Really?!

That is completely ridiculous if that's the case for WA and sharing a safe.

The exact same rifles? Who the hells going to have that with their house mate.

I don't even live in WA and that's ridiculously frustrating.

(Not having a go at you obviously Mecca )

[scrolllock]

If person 1 has cat B firearms and person 2 has cat A/B license, they can share the safe no problem.

If person 1 has cat B firearms and person 2 has cat A license only, they can not share safe which contains cat B firearms.

That's how it was explained to me by the dealer at my firearms course.

Can confirm that's correct for VIC.

[yoshie]

The way it is in WA is similar to the way it is in ACT, doesn't matter about type, it goes on serial number, you can only use/be in possession of, a firearm that's registered to you, or you are authorised to use, or if you are under instruction of an instructor.

There is an exemption in a gun shop/dealer etc. You can get approved to use another gun ( if you're a junior you can get approval to use a parents gun, farm guns situations, etc, or you want to share a gun with a mate, say for example your wife won't let you have one at home, you can get authorised to use a mates gun.)

Also if you're an instructor you need to be authorised for each gun your club owns in order to instruct with those guns.

[Norton]

Hmm,

I was under the impression as long as you had the right category license it was OK in QLD, same situation as Victoria.

Got me doubting it now with the ACT and WA stuff.

That's my understanding but better safe than sorry.

Dropping QLD weapons licensing an email is probably best.

Ph: (07) 3015 7777
Email: weaponslicensing@police.qld.gov.au

[brisb]

Fair enough guys, thanks anyway.

I did call them a few days ago during work but was on hold for too long and had to leave it.

Will go with the email and give it a few days.

[MeccaOz]

So you can have a Ruger 4 shot bolt action .308 but can't have access to your mates Sako 4 shot bolt action .308?

Really?!

That is completely ridiculous if that's the case for WA and sharing a safe.

The exact same rifles? Who the hells going to have that with their house mate.

I don't even live in WA and that's ridiculously frustrating.

(Not having a go at you obviously Mecca )

By the exact same rifles, I mean the same gun ( same serial number ) ... And yep your dead right, its a load of toss.

I actually wrote a letter to the Premier and he got a cop from some branch to ring me and explain it slowly to me

By the end of the conversation even he said "Well that's the way it is, if you don't follow the rules we will take your license".

[Vati]

By the end of the conversation even he said "Well that's the way it is, if you don't follow the rules we will take your license".

So you're the two year old and they're the parent telling you to do it "because I said so".

Great.

[Supporter]

Brilliant way to handle legislation, right?

Don't do it because we have a logical reason, do it because we say so.

[RoginaJack]

May I suggest that you and the good wife fit trigger locks to the firearms. You and only you hold the keys for yours and the GW hold the keys for hers and keep the bolts locked in separate containers.

By doing that, you both have access to the safe but can't use the firearms.

[brisb]

Hmm, that's an idea.

Wasn't really about keeping mine away from her or anything. Just doing the right thing legally.

[MeccaOz]

Hmm, that's an idea.

Wasn't really about keeping mine away from her or anything. Just doing the right thing legally.

Always better safe than sorry mate, and when it comes to firearm laws, dont ever confuse sanity with legislation

[tamjess]

So did anyone come to a conclusion as to what the law states. Can me and my hubby share a safe?

[MeccaOz]

So did anyone come to a conclusion as to what the law states. Can me and my hubby share a safe?

I thought someone had gotten onto the fuzz about it... But I'll fire an email off ro them to get the final say .. Might take a day or 2 to get back to me though.

Watch this space for the QLD Regs on keeping your guns safe.

In thge mean time here is the website with some info

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/licenceApplication/storage/default.htm

[MeccaOz]

Here is the answer from the QLD Firearms Registry guys. Hope it helps

******* *******.

Thank you for your inquiry into whether it is legally possible to share a gun safe or only if parties have the same weapon and license category.

Prior to possessing a firearm or having access to a gun safe you must be a licensed firearms holder.

If you are house sharing with your defacto, it is lawful for both of you to use shared gun storage provided: -

Both of you currently hold Firearm Licenses.
Both of you have the same categories on your license.
All of the weapons are lawfully registered and
There are no more than a total of 30 firearms on the premises.

One firearm can not be registered in the name of two persons.

In simple terms the licence provides legal authority for the licensee to possess any registered firearm of the category their licence is endorsed for.

No unlicensed or unauthorised person must be able to access the gun safe at any time.

I hope this information has been of assistance.

Cheers
Name of Policeman
Sen. Constable 3967
Weapons Licensing
Special Service Branch
Operations Support Command
Queensland Police Service
E-mail: ****.*******@police.qld.gov.au
Fax: 3015 7766

[brisb]

Awesome. Thanks Mecca.

*clap clap clap*

[MeccaOz]

Happy to help mate Looks alot more sensible that the WA laws ....

[brisb]

The grass is always greener somewhere I guess

[lowb]

Somewhere has to be bottom of the list though... Welcome to WA

[whert]

May I suggest that you and the good wife fit trigger locks to the firearms. You and only you hold the keys for yours and the GW hold the keys for hers and keep the bolts locked in separate containers.

By doing that, you both have access to the safe but can't use the firearms.

I'm basically doing this.

(VIC laws)

[tamjess]

Cheers thanks Mecca