How big ?

[bigtone]

Just wondering if anyone knows what QLD weapons licensing has to say about where you can discharge a weapon or how big the property has to be by law ?

[pomemax]

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/ ... tional.htm
is always a good place to start or you could just try google

[bigtone]

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/licenceApplication/licences/firearms/recreational.htm
is always a good place to start or you could just try google

If you read that page carefully you will find that it has nothing to do with disharging a rifle other than saying that the projectile is not to leave the property.
That page is coincidentally the page that Qld weapons licencing will refer you to, BUT that page is only to do with using recreational shooting as a genuine reason for having a weapons licence.
It has nothing to do with law regarding the discharge of a weapon.

So you are correct about what Qld weapons licencing will tell you, but can anyone find a REAL law in legislation which actually states a size?

[tom604]

well i will be really unhelpful and say that in South Australia the area must be zoned rural, no size limit that i have found pest mitigation is the reason i use, the land owner has a legal responsibility to keep pests under control "may " be the same in Queensland

[bigtone]

Thanks Tom. Qld weapons licensing are actually unable to find any legislation that answers my question. Strange though that they refuse to give me that in writing (maybe they dont really want us to know). I believe that there is no restriction in Qld as to the amount of land that a rifle is discharged on. I cant find anything other than that the projectile must not cross or enter another property unless you have permission to shoot on that land. Theoretically, provided that you were not making too much noise and that your neighbour was not offended at the site of a rifle, this would mean that a great Australian tradition could be re-instated. SHOOTING TOADS WITH AIR RIFLES! (this is only theory at this stage and I take no responsibility for your actions if you decide to re-take this pastime).

[pomemax]

For Recreational shooting on rural lands, the size of the property you wish to shoot on needs to be of sufficient size to ensure safe use for the category/ies of weapons (generally greater than 40 acres). It is an offence to shoot on or across neighbouring private land without the owner’s permission. well i thought the bit about 40 acres was to the point

[sandgroperbill]

I could answer this question for WA (as far as having a certain caliber approved by licensing) but don't know how this would match up with QLD

[tom604]

For Recreational shooting on rural lands, the size of the property you wish to shoot on needs to be of sufficient size to ensure safe use for the category/ies of weapons (generally greater than 40 acres). It is an offence to shoot on or across neighbouring private land without the owner’s permission. well i thought the bit about 40 acres was to the point

the tricky bit is the "generally" all that means is that they like it to be that big but nothing says it has to be slug gun =? two acres? one?

maybe talk to the local cops,,at least that way they wont charge you if they get called out by a neighbour when your shooting

[Gwion]

In Tas it's based on permission from NEIGHBOURS with in 250m. So, no shooting within 250m of a residence without permission of the OCCUPANT.

So, technically, you could shoot what ever in the middle of the city if you had permission from everyone withing 250m and the bullet never left your property. Thing is, you'll never get permission from everyone (or, at least, it is entirely impractical to achieve) so it will be a no go and a big NO NO.

Size of property required for your Genuine Reason for a LICENCE is another story. Generally a 40ac min.

Probably different in QLD, altogether!

[bigtone]

For Recreational shooting on rural lands, the size of the property you wish to shoot on needs to be of sufficient size to ensure safe use for the category/ies of weapons (generally greater than 40 acres). It is an offence to shoot on or across neighbouring private land without the owner’s permission. well i thought the bit about 40 acres was to the point

And here in lies the the actual problem.
Where did you find this information.
If it came from the Weapons Act or Weapons Regulation that makes it law. (please tell me where in the Act cause I cant find it)
If it came from a website then I am not sure that that makes it law.
Acts and Regulations were written so that both sides (the humans and the other sort who enforce the law) supposedly knew the rules that we are to play by.
If we start having to abide by statements on a website or by the opinions of law enforcers then does that not make Acts and Regulations obsolete?

[Baronvonrort]

For Recreational shooting on rural lands, the size of the property you wish to shoot on needs to be of sufficient size to ensure safe use for the category/ies of weapons (generally greater than 40 acres). It is an offence to shoot on or across neighbouring private land without the owner’s permission. well i thought the bit about 40 acres was to the point

Where did you find this information.
If it came from the Weapons Act or Weapons Regulation that makes it law. (please tell me where in the Act cause I cant find it)

I recall seeing that on a Qld police page, I cannot recall which one I think it was related to property owner for genuine reason.

I also saw something about 50 acres in ACT.

[bigtone]

Where did you find this information.
If it came from the Weapons Act or Weapons Regulation that makes it law. (please tell me where in the Act cause I cant find it)
[/quote]

I recall seeing that on a Qld police page, I cannot recall which one I think it was related to property owner for genuine reason.

I also saw something about 50 acres in ACT.[/quote]

The point exactly! Just because it was on a QLD Weapons Licensing webpage doesn't make it law. It does say about the "generally 40 acres" in relation to using a property as your genuine reason when applying for a weapons licence but it does not say that you cannot discharge a weapon on a property of less than 40 acres. Qld Weapons Licensing know this and WILL NOT give you anything in writing about it because they are trying to keep it quiet. We need to be very aware that there are AOs in Weapons Licensing who don't think that the Weapons Act and its supporting Regulations are strict enough and are making it their own personal crusade to make things much stricter than necessary. If they won't give it to you in writing or direct you to a clause in the Act, then they are hiding something.

[meek]

"generally" is pretty helpful