Genuine reason

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Genuine reason

Post by Aussie_Vic » 22 Sep 2021, 6:58 pm

G'day lads!

Just wondering with a "genuine reason" required.

I've been thinking about joining the SSAA for hunting and target shooting as my reasons since i'll be going with the old man who's now interested in doing comps and shooting at the range.

Trying to keep a cost to a minimum with SSAA being $350 and my local range being $240 a year but has both advantages and disadvantages.

There's another option...

Going with my local range as a reason, will need to ask if it's a recognised hunting club.

I do know the SSAA are a "recognised hunting club" but $11 annual "Expression of Interest to Hunt...etc" on Crown Land is another option.

I also have properties to hunt on.

Just having troubles deciding what to do.

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for the suggestions and feedback.

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Re: Genuine reason

Post by bladeracer » 22 Sep 2021, 8:33 pm

Aussie_Vic wrote:G'day lads!

Just wondering with a "genuine reason" required.

I've been thinking about joining the SSAA for hunting and target shooting as my reasons since i'll be going with the old man who's now interested in doing comps and shooting at the range.

Trying to keep a cost to a minimum with SSAA being $350 and my local range being $240 a year but has both advantages and disadvantages.

There's another option...

Going with my local range as a reason, will need to ask if it's a recognised hunting club.

I do know the SSAA are a "recognised hunting club" but $11 annual "Expression of Interest to Hunt...etc" on Crown Land is another option.

I also have properties to hunt on.

Just having troubles deciding what to do.

Cheers,

for the suggestions and feedback.

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If you have property permissions you don't need an club memberships, but if you intend to shoot at SSAA ranges I would join. I believe it reduces the range fees, but more importantly it supports the club. SSAA only costs me $128 per year, including the insurance.

The EOI is not annual, it is only needed when applying for or renewing a licence. There are no permits for hunting pest animals in Victoria, but you need a game licence for deer or duck.
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Re: Genuine reason

Post by Aussie_Vic » 22 Sep 2021, 8:48 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Aussie_Vic wrote:G'day lads!

Just wondering with a "genuine reason" required.

I've been thinking about joining the SSAA for hunting and target shooting as my reasons since i'll be going with the old man who's now interested in doing comps and shooting at the range.

Trying to keep a cost to a minimum with SSAA being $350 and my local range being $240 a year but has both advantages and disadvantages.

There's another option...

Going with my local range as a reason, will need to ask if it's a recognised hunting club.

I do know the SSAA are a "recognised hunting club" but $11 annual "Expression of Interest to Hunt...etc" on Crown Land is another option.

I also have properties to hunt on.

Just having troubles deciding what to do.

Cheers,

for the suggestions and feedback.

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If you have property permissions you don't need an club memberships, but if you intend to shoot at SSAA ranges I would join. I believe it reduces the range fees, but more importantly it supports the club. SSAA only costs me $128 per year, including the insurance.

The EOI is not annual, it is only needed when applying for or renewing a licence. There are no permits for hunting pest animals in Victoria, but you need a game licence for deer or duck.

Cheers for the reply. Yes i'm planning to use the eagle park range.

Are you with a sub SSAA club with your fees?
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Post by bladeracer » 22 Sep 2021, 8:57 pm

Aussie_Vic wrote:Cheers for the reply. Yes i'm planning to use the eagle park range.

Are you with a sub SSAA club with your fees?


I'm a member of SSAA East Gippsland, the range is at Buchan. I've never been to a SSAA range though. But if we don't support our clubs we won't have any.
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Re: Genuine reason

Post by womble » 23 Sep 2021, 4:34 am

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Re: Genuine reason

Post by Oldbloke » 23 Sep 2021, 6:58 pm

Don't get confused all you need is 1 of the following

A letter from the owner of a property you hunt on, preferably say,,,about 50 acres or bigger.

Or

$11 annual "Expression of Interest to Hunt...etc" on Crown Land

Or

A Game licence

Or

Club ( Ssaa) membership


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To apply for licence you don't need Public liability insurance, damage , loss, theft.
But, sometimes a farmer may ask for it
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Post by Larry » 23 Sep 2021, 7:15 pm

Go for a hunting reason not a target shooting reason as with hunting you are always allowed to shoot on a range. But with target shooting you can only shoot at the range and not in any other environment. Check out the police website for firearms they have a table that lays out the reasons and the places you can shoot at what.
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Post by bladeracer » 23 Sep 2021, 8:30 pm

Larry wrote:Go for a hunting reason not a target shooting reason as with hunting you are always allowed to shoot on a range. But with target shooting you can only shoot at the range and not in any other environment. Check out the police website for firearms they have a table that lays out the reasons and the places you can shoot at what.


Have a read under Hunters.
"Holders of a firearms licence issued for the genuine reason of hunting, sport or target shooting or primary production are authorised to hunt on crown land if such hunting is authorised. "

If you only have Target or Sport you can practice for competition on private property, you cannot shoot competition events on private property.

But any application should include CatA and Cat B, and Hunting/Target. Otherwise you'll have to add them later.
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Re: Genuine reason

Post by dpskipper » 26 Sep 2021, 1:10 pm

Larry wrote:Go for a hunting reason not a target shooting reason as with hunting you are always allowed to shoot on a range. But with target shooting you can only shoot at the range and not in any other environment. Check out the police website for firearms they have a table that lays out the reasons and the places you can shoot at what.


Incorrect for VIC. I think other states only allow for the genuine reason, but in VIC you can go hunting on a target licence and vice versa.
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Post by womble » 26 Sep 2021, 2:43 pm

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Larry wrote:Go for a hunting reason not a target shooting reason as with hunting you are always allowed to shoot on a range. But with target shooting you can only shoot at the range and not in any other environment. Check out the police website for firearms they have a table that lays out the reasons and the places you can shoot at what.


Incorrect for VIC. I think other states only allow for the genuine reason, but in VIC you can go hunting on a target licence and vice versa.


Yes they do like to make it as complicated as possible. It’s not entirely vice versa though. You list genuine interest as both sport/target and hunting. You don’t have to only list one reason.
That way you’re covered should your interest take you elsewhere down the track.
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Post by dpskipper » 26 Sep 2021, 3:52 pm

womble wrote:
dpskipper wrote:
Larry wrote:Go for a hunting reason not a target shooting reason as with hunting you are always allowed to shoot on a range. But with target shooting you can only shoot at the range and not in any other environment. Check out the police website for firearms they have a table that lays out the reasons and the places you can shoot at what.


Incorrect for VIC. I think other states only allow for the genuine reason, but in VIC you can go hunting on a target licence and vice versa.


Yes they do like to make it as complicated as possible. It’s not entirely vice versa though. You list genuine interest as both sport/target and hunting. You don’t have to only list one reason.
That way you’re covered should your interest take you elsewhere down the track.


As I understand it, you can go hunting on a licence that ONLY has target shooting on it. And likewise you can attend the range on a hunting licence but can't necessarily compete in matches. This is for VIC only. I think NSW actually makes a distinction.
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Post by womble » 26 Sep 2021, 5:10 pm

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Post by Oldbloke » 26 Sep 2021, 5:16 pm

Thx womble. Spot on.

Before answering any questions regarding regs/law people should check the state the OP is in. Each state varies.
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Post by bladeracer » 26 Sep 2021, 5:18 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Thx womble. Spot on.

Before answering any questions regarding regs/law people should check the state the OP is in. Each state varies.


Each state has it's own law forum now though.
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Post by Aussie_Vic » 28 Sep 2021, 7:30 pm

Any news or idea on when the SSAA is opening back up for regional? Gave them a call today but no luck.
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Post by bladeracer » 28 Sep 2021, 7:38 pm

Aussie_Vic wrote:Any news or idea on when the SSAA is opening back up for regional? Gave them a call today but no luck.


No, but I was told the lockdown _is_ going to end October 26th...if they don't extend it again!
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