Safe to wood flooring

[AusTac]

Hey guys,

Just after you experiences in securing a safe to a wood floor.

I attempted to install mine yesterday on what i thought was a concrete floor which turned out to be particle board -.- so for now i've coach screwed it to that but im still not happy with it, i don't have any access underneath and the house is a rental so id like it to have minimal impact to the structure, any soloutions?

Cheers

[Noisydad]

Commando crawl under your house with a couple of lumps of 4x2 hardwood and nail or glue them to the floor where the bolt holes are then you bolt the safe to the floor with your bolts through the hard wood as well.

[rsj223]

Hey guys,

Just after you experiences in securing a safe to a wood floor.

I attempted to install mine yesterday on what i thought was a concrete floor which turned out to be particle board -.- so for now i've coach screwed it to that but im still not happy with it, i don't have any access underneath and the house is a rental so id like it to have minimal impact to the structure, any soloutions?

Cheers

If you can't get under it you may need to use the wall behind it as well, I'm in a rental as well atm but have concrete floor and used the wall, I think you could try reading the regs.

[BBJ]

I'm assuming your safe is not over 150kg there?

A few screws into the particle board isn't going to be enough. As the guys with small safes who've had inspections will tell you the copper visiting will give the safe a rock to make sure it's secured. Think about doing it yourself, how hard would it be to rock it back and forth and pull those screws up?

The guys have covered it, option 1 is put a steel plate or serious bit of hard wood under and bolt it through the floor completely into the plate.

Otherwise find a stud in the wall and bolt it through that as well. Probably your best option as you can't easily fix the floor but can the wall when you go.

[Blackened]

What are the walls made of?

If they're painted timber should only be a 10minute job to patch and paint after you take the safe off the wall when you leave the place.

[Oldbloke]

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.as ... t_ID=36210 the requirements are here. Must be fixed to thr frame.

[1290]

never rely on solely fastening the base!

If YOU think you could lever the safe and pull the base coach screws then it is inadequate...

find a corner, fix the back to battens/studs/noggins as well as the base

Consider that you're fixing it to satisfy YOURSELF not to politz.

[AusTac]

Yeah guys i'm not happy with it which is why i'm going to and fix it down firmly, but this is my first experience with this kind of thing and i don't feel like cracking a joist.

Thanks for the suggestions i'll take them on board and fix it down firmly to the studs and joists as has bee suggested

[Elek]

Thanks for the suggestions i'll take them on board and fix it down firmly to the studs and joists as has bee suggested

Sounds like a plan mate.

Just remember a hole in their wall plaster can be easily fixed, losing your license and a criminal charge... Not so easy.

Protect yourself, not the houses paint

[joker]

do you all keep your safe inside?

I understand that its much safer inside but if there is a lack of room would you bolt the safe outside in the garage or something?

[Wes]

do you all keep your safe inside?

I understand that its much safer inside but if there is a lack of room would you bolt the safe outside in the garage or something?

Yeah inside.

Personally I would never put mind in a 'normal' shed. Too easy to get access and none of your neighbours will bat an eyelid if someone is crashing around in the shed for a few hours in the middle of the day (some ***** trying to break into your safe).

In the house with the alarm is the place IMO.

If you had a really secure shed that was a missing to get into itself then maybe that's another story. I did see from one guy who had his safe bolted under the house where the door was accessible from outside, except the walls were brick and it had a heavy steel grate door, big locks and all the rest. In that case it would have been heaps harder to get under the house than into it.

[joker]

That's fair enough bentaz. Might need to look into a good spot to give the safe to the house.

Wes I think more people these days just turn their head the other way, when they see something wrong. What a mission putting the safe under the house

[Prios]

Wes I think more people these days just turn their head the other way, when they see something wrong.

I do wonder about house alarms in that regard. You see a few going off now and then as you drive around or whatever and I don't think I've ever seen a concerned neighbour standing out front on the phone or anything like that.

Just an alarm blaring away on its own.

[joker]

Mate I'm telling you these days nearly all people just keep their head down and believe if they don't see it then it's not happening so they don't need to do anything about it

[AusTac]

So spent saturday re-bolting in the safe to joists and studs and it all went sweet the house is still standing and i didn't get electrocuted. It's solid as and will hopefully pass the coming inspection cheers guys

[AusTac]

Wes I think more people these days just turn their head the other way, when they see something wrong.

I do wonder about house alarms in that regard. You see a few going off now and then as you drive around or whatever and I don't think I've ever seen a concerned neighbour standing out front on the phone or anything like that.

Just an alarm blaring away on its own.

So true haha both residential and commercial properties no one seems to give it a second thought

[Xerox]

So spent saturday re-bolting in the safe to joists and studs and it all went sweet the house is still standing and i didn't get electrocuted. It's solid as and will hopefully pass the coming inspection cheers guys

They don't send a demolition team to test it out

Sounds like it's in as it should be, you won't have any trouble

[AusTac]

So spent saturday re-bolting in the safe to joists and studs and it all went sweet the house is still standing and i didn't get electrocuted. It's solid as and will hopefully pass the coming inspection cheers guys

They don't send a demolition team to test it out

Sounds like it's in as it should be, you won't have any trouble

Well that's reassuring haha, this will be my first inspection so i'm not to sure how much they go at it but it should be sweet thanks for the suggestions and comedy everyone

[Bourt]

Well that's reassuring haha, this will be my first inspection so i'm not to sure how much they go at it but it should be sweet thanks for the suggestions and comedy everyone

They don't really "go at it", it just needs to be reasonably secure.

If a safe's 5 foot tall and held in by 2 bolts at the bottom only it's going to have some wiggle, and a lot of leverage at the top to apply a shoulder too and pull it lose. If the cop can see it's only going to take 2-3 barges and come out you're going to get done. A bolt or two through a stud or joist solve the problem.

Or in future if you ever buy a bigger safe it's a few hundred extra compared to a similar, lighter safe to get a 150kg+ one and then you don't have to worry about it.

[RealNick]

As long as you don't see then strolling up with the ram for breaching doors