Importing none mechanical gun parts from the US

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Importing none mechanical gun parts from the US

Post by Guliver » 13 Jan 2014, 11:30 am

I want to import some target grips for a Ruger Mark III pistol, has anyone imported something similar? What do customs do in these sort of cases? Guns being a touchy subject pistol probably even more touchy.
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Post by Baldrick314 » 13 Jan 2014, 1:18 pm

You should have no trouble importing grips mate. As a rule of thumb if you don't need a licence for it you shouldn't have troubles importing
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Post by kritch » 13 Jan 2014, 2:02 pm

Here is the spiel from the Aus customs doco on importing firearm parts

IMPORTING PARTS
To import firearm parts into Australia, importers must first obtain written certification from the police firearms or weapons registry in their State or Territory or written permission to import from the Commonwealth Attorney-General’s Department prior to importation.

Firearms parts, whether or not complete, damaged, temporarily or permanently inoperable or unfinished, include:
• a gas piston, friction assembly, action bar (including handgun slides), breech bolt or breech block
• a firearm barrel
• an assembled trigger mechanism
• a frame or receiver
• something other than a complete firearm, that includes one or more of the above items.


No mention of grips there...

So all good?
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Post by Guliver » 13 Jan 2014, 3:51 pm

Thanks folks.
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Post by Squiddy » 26 May 2016, 7:53 am

Sorry to dig up an old thread - does anyone know if you can buy a muzzle brake online from the USA and have it delivered to Aus? Does that come under ITAR or break any laws?

They are literally 1/2 the price in the USA and I don't want ASIO breaking down my door....
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Post by Squiddy » 26 May 2016, 8:52 am

OK, I've sent an email through to the department of immigration and border protection to confirm.

While I have your ear - anyone know about importation requirements on a pistol grip for an AR15 form USA?

I'm after a magpul PRS stock too, seeing as they are 1/2 price also over there, but I'm pretty sure they fall under legislation as they are a folding stock...
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Post by Gibbo » 26 May 2016, 9:19 am

Looking for an egro tactical deluxe grip myself, will try overseas
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Post by AusC » 06 Jul 2016, 3:41 pm

Squiddy wrote:OK, I've sent an email through to the department of immigration and border protection to confirm.


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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 4:43 pm

I bought a stock to turn my father-in-laws Remington 510 single-shot into a 513 10-shot repeater last year. Customs held it "because it was a rifle stock" until I explained to them that it was seventy-years-old and didn't fold or telescope or anything else in the realm of evil.
They wouldn't allow me to import the $14 magazine though so I let them destroy it and bought one locally for $75.

I've bought several muzzle brakes from China and the US non problems.

I've bought two AR15 pistol grips and an M4-style telescopic butt stock within Oz.
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Post by scaredyet » 06 Jul 2016, 5:41 pm

I want to buy a 10 shot cz 452 mag from USA can that be done? It's for NSW I did buy one for $60 but it's like $20 in the states
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 5:54 pm

Not worth the expense of the import permit. Just buy it locally.
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Post by Heckler303 » 06 Jul 2016, 6:16 pm

scaredyet wrote:I want to buy a 10 shot cz 452 mag from USA can that be done? It's for NSW I did buy one for $60 but it's like $20 in the states



Plus an extra 24 dollars postage. Still a better deal though.
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Post by scaredyet » 06 Jul 2016, 6:21 pm

Do I need permit
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 6:21 pm

If you were buying twenty of them it might be worth it.
I need spare short action Ruger American rotary mag that I can modify to accept Gunsight box mags - the rotarys suck.
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 6:22 pm

scaredyet wrote:Do I need permit



Yes to import magazines.
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Post by scaredyet » 06 Jul 2016, 6:45 pm

I have a few things coming with my sister I'm just going to get her to bring it
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 6:57 pm

scaredyet wrote:I have a few things coming with my sister I'm just going to get her to bring it



You do still need the permit whether you mail it or carry it into this country though...
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Post by Squiddy » 06 Jul 2016, 7:02 pm

bentaz wrote:Muzzle brake will be no worries, ive bought them straight off ebay from overseas :drinks:


I emailed customs about muzzle brakes and got this back:

Thank you for your enquiry.

The description for this item indicates that noise reduction occurs, therefore it could reasonably be assumed to act as a sound suppressor.

I would advise contacting [email protected] for further advice on this particular product.


While I'm at it - Im after a sight hood for my K98 - has anyone purchased one online?
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 7:05 pm

Squiddy wrote:
bentaz wrote:Muzzle brake will be no worries, ive bought them straight off ebay from overseas :drinks:


I emailed customs about muzzle brakes and got this back:

Thank you for your enquiry.

The description for this item indicates that noise reduction occurs, therefore it could reasonably be assumed to act as a sound suppressor.

I would advise contacting [email protected] for further advice on this particular product.


While I'm at it - Im after a sight hood for my K98 - has anyone purchased one online?



It would help if you included the description they're referring to, or are they saying that all muzzle brakes reduce noise?

I haven't bought a sight hood but I did buy some K98 stripper clips from Canada with no problems. I don't know if they are a problem and mine just slipped through though - does anybody know if stripper clips are prohibited imports?
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Post by Squiddy » 06 Jul 2016, 7:08 pm

Ruger hybrid muzzle brake.
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2016, 7:14 pm

Squiddy wrote:Ruger hybrid muzzle brake.



Maybe the description means it reduces the noise to the sides _compared to other brakes_ rather than actually reducing noise?
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Post by scaredyet » 06 Jul 2016, 7:59 pm

I'll just pay triple the price from here, all good
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Post by Cryptic » 07 Jul 2016, 9:51 pm

I got carbon fibre grips from the US in March no problems.
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Post by Cryptic » 07 Jul 2016, 9:56 pm

While customs or weapons Lic here may approve of muzzlebrakes the US doesn't allow them to be exported under ITAR rules. ITAR. 22CFR Part 121, Category I (e)..".silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors..." are export controlled
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Post by bladeracer » 07 Jul 2016, 10:32 pm

Cryptic wrote:While customs or weapons Lic here may approve of muzzlebrakes the US doesn't allow them to be exported under ITAR rules. ITAR. 22CFR Part 121, Category I (e)..".silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors..." are export controlled


Muzzle brakes don't fall into that category though, those are suppressors or flash hiders, not brakes.
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Post by Cryptic » 07 Jul 2016, 11:20 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Cryptic wrote:While customs or weapons Lic here may approve of muzzlebrakes the US doesn't allow them to be exported under ITAR rules. ITAR. 22CFR Part 121, Category I (e)..".silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors..." are export controlled


Muzzle brakes don't fall into that category though, those are suppressors or flash hiders, not brakes.


I have a friend in St Louis who makes Muzzle brakes and he has been told he cant ship them due to ITAR. He cant even send them over the border to Canada which is retarded.
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Post by Cryptic » 07 Jul 2016, 11:28 pm

Look up companies that sell them you will find ITAR notices attached.

Heres ones

LANTAC DGN556B™ Dragon™ Muzzle Brake
ITAR Notice:
This product is manufactured in the USA by LANTAC USA LLC for sale within the USA only.
Export of the commodities described herein is strictly prohibited without a valid export license issued by the U.S. Department of State, Office of Defense Trade Controls, prescribed in the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations, Parts 120-130.
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Post by bladeracer » 08 Jul 2016, 12:26 am

Cryptic wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
Cryptic wrote:While customs or weapons Lic here may approve of muzzlebrakes the US doesn't allow them to be exported under ITAR rules. ITAR. 22CFR Part 121, Category I (e)..".silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors..." are export controlled


Muzzle brakes don't fall into that category though, those are suppressors or flash hiders, not brakes.


I have a friend in St Louis who makes Muzzle brakes and he has been told he cant ship them due to ITAR. He cant even send them over the border to Canada which is retarded.



Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, just pointing out that what you posted doesn't refer to muzzle brakes.
Are Canadians even allowed to have muzzle brakes? They have even worse restrictions than we do.
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Post by Cryptic » 08 Jul 2016, 1:24 am

bladeracer wrote:
Cryptic wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
Cryptic wrote:While customs or weapons Lic here may approve of muzzlebrakes the US doesn't allow them to be exported under ITAR rules. ITAR. 22CFR Part 121, Category I (e)..".silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors..." are export controlled


Muzzle brakes don't fall into that category though, those are suppressors or flash hiders, not brakes.


I have a friend in St Louis who makes Muzzle brakes and he has been told he cant ship them due to ITAR. He cant even send them over the border to Canada which is retarded.



Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, just pointing out that what you posted doesn't refer to muzzle brakes.
Are Canadians even allowed to have muzzle brakes? They have even worse restrictions than we do.


Didn't think you were having a go. It was only recently I learned of the ITAR regulations myself when my mate brought it up and I looked into it, I figured would save the issues if the person on here is getting it sent by private person not a company as if caught can be a door knock for them and a please explain.
ITAR is same reason scopes cant be sent. They don't list some stuff in there specifically but near anything that screws or bolts onto a barrel or they deem as used by military or defense is regulated.
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