The Election.

[<<Genesis93>>]

I'm not doubting theres an element of 'moron'....much of the problem is her delivery of the message.
Fact is enough people agree with the message.
Thats what not only the majority, but also the other elected individual need to accept

[Gwion]

I do agree there. The element within Australia that agrees with Pauline 'I Dont Like It' Hason must be recognised as real and extant. The fallacy that is being portrayed, or has be portrayed in recent years is that this undercurrent of xenophobic white pride remaining from the 'White Australia' policy no longer exists in Australia. The sad fact is, it is very much alive and going strong in this country.

There is nothing wrong with being proudly of any one particular racial or cultural group, but if your pride necessitates the denigration and vilification of any other racial, ethnic or cultural group, I; my friend; believe there is no room for that particular brand of cultural pride in Australia. From any group.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Being proud of your 'race'.... doesnt necessarily mean you despise others.... regardless of what the media AND every walking mouthpiece claims...

Take for example Ali, global legend (as I mentioned elsewhere) his beliefs, as painful to most to hear... ALIGN with the KKK. .... that is an absolute opposition to miscegenation. That doesnt make someone a hater of other races.

[Gwion]

I think as soon as any mention of superiority of race/creed/culture, or of the 'importance of not mixing' slides in, we are talking racial hatred in one form or other. Fear mongering about "being overtaken" is in the same league or maybe worse, as it is just subverting the message "keep Australia White"; which, in essence, is all the Oxley Moron has ever had to say.

[on_one_wheel]

I'm watching Malcolm Turnbull speak on TV about how disappointed he is about being robbed votes because of the "lies" that was the mediscare campaign.

I'm thinking, don't worry Malcolm, all us Australian Firearms owners know exactly how you feel.

[Gwion]

Difference is there was no scare campaign, he was on record admitting there would be cuts. There is now last minute back pedaling in order to gain ground, which will then be dumped and the changes made in short order as soon as any leeway in power allows. It's an old old tune and they are playing it to death!

[tom604]

Difference is there was no scare campaign, he was on record admitting there would be cuts. There is now last minute back pedaling in order to gain ground, which will then be dumped and the changes made in short order as soon as any leeway in power allows. It's an old old tune and they are playing it to death!

Ten points to this man^^ turdbull will most likely make changes so that medicare will cost more in the future and then scrap it saying it costs too much

[Heckler303]

Her rhetoric has barely changed, it is just focused on another cultural group

Oh yes, she's put more focus on a 1400 year old set of racist, misogynistic, sadistic ideologies, bound into a culture that throw gays from rooftops, blow up airports, practice pedophilia, enforce oppression of women and female genital mutilation, build up massive stockpiles of weaponry and explosives in their 'peaceful' mosques, call victim when they get any criticism then threaten to kill those who don't agree with them or obey shariah law, cause horrifying rape epidemics and now are slowly sliding their dirty mitts via Hijra (Islamic for colonization by mass migration) into Australia. Excuse me, but anyone who is willing to take a closer look at Islam specifically and establish what they are plain-sight, is getting my support.


You can make a long-ass retort, but by that time you post, I can almost guarantee this thread Blackened or Monty will be hovering over this.

[Gwion]

You are lotting a billion or so people into a single group based on the actions a maybe a few million, if that, Heckler.

Now, review those numbers down to those representing Australian firearms owners and the number of people who commit firearms crimes and our all being lotted together.....

I'll leave you to figure out the logic.

[Heckler303]

You are lotting a billion or so people into a single group based on the actions a maybe a few million, if that, Heckler.

Now, review those numbers down to those representing Australian firearms owners and the number of people who commit firearms crimes and our all being lotted together.....

I'll leave you to figure out the logic.

The problem is that the logic doesn't apply for Islam, the difference between Firearm owners and Islam is far too great. We are owners of mechanical objects, which have the ability to cause great harm should they be used wrongly, they are people that practice a set base of disgusting ideologies set forth by a war-mongering rapist one and half millennia ago. Again comes out the arguement that 'not all muslims are bad'. Yes, I've heard this countless times, you can't automatically blame the actions of a few on everyone, it's collective punishment (I know, I never took that sh!t during highschool, was fun being sent out). So I can meet a nice Nazi, does it mean that not all Nazi's are bad? Maybe, but am I OK with Nazism? Of course not.

[Gwion]

So, because you decide how ideas and logic should be applied it justifies the same behaviour you deplore in others?

I guess, things are only wrong when other people do them to you but ok when you do them to others?

Islamic belief is widely interpreted in a peaceful and civilised manner. There are other belief systems, including Christianity, that have a root in violent and abhorrent practices.

In your denigration of a wider Islam, you ignor the hugely significant contributions to modern thought and science that the Islamic world has shared with us.

[Gwion]

Re: your Nazi analogy, you are waaaay off. What you are doing is saying every German or person living in German occupied lands is a Nazi. It just is not true.

[<<Genesis93>>]

my
head
hurts

[Heckler303]

Re: your Nazi analogy, you are waaaay off. What you are doing is saying every German or person living in German occupied lands is a Nazi. It just is not true.

I'll probably get to the other part later but oh my god, not once did I ever state that any German/German occupant is automatically a Nazi. Speaking of Germany, I wonder how they are currently doing letting in those floods of Muslim immigrants?


Edit: I'd rather dwell on the election now, then continue to turn this into another locked thread because of religious debate.

[<<Genesis93>>]

.....he was TRIGGERED....I tells you.. SJW style needs directions back to his safe space

[Gwion]

So I can meet a nice Nazi, does it mean that not all Nazi's are bad? Maybe, but am I OK with Nazism? Of course not.

You drew the comparison between Islam and nazism. Saying the likes of hardline regimes represent all of Islam is every bit like my last response. Nazis do not represent all Germans, all people of German extraction or all people living in German occupied lands. Hard line or sharia regimes do not represent all of Islam.

Also, if you don't want a debate on religious hate, don't go on a tyrrade about it.

Back to celebrating our election spectacular.

[Heckler303]

So I can meet a nice Nazi, does it mean that not all Nazi's are bad? Maybe, but am I OK with Nazism? Of course not.

You drew the comparison between Islam and Nazism. Saying the likes of hardline regimes represent all of Islam is every bit like my last response. Nazis do not represent all Germans, all people of German extraction or all people living in German occupied lands. Hard line or sharia regimes do not represent all of Islam.

Also, if you don't want a debate on religious hate, don't go on a tyrrade about it.

Back to celebrating our election spectacular.

Emphasis on the origin on Shariah regimes...

This could continue on, spanning over an extra 3 pages, like what happened in my Orlando thread. Though it looks unprofessional on my part to now back out, if we don't stop and get back on topic, this thread is gonna be locked, so while the issue is still unsettled, at least this didn't come down to a match of slinging insults. Which is always a bonus (Thanks for your spectating, Mr. Genesis. Also, are any mods watching this?)

If we can kindly leave this aside for another time, I've read we are still with a hung parliament from the last report.

[tom604]

i love a bit of thread creep, next we will be talking about what caliber the nazi's should of used

[Angel]

OK guys, take a chill pill, and go hunt some rabbits... ROFL

[Angel]

i love a bit of thread creep, next we will be talking about what caliber the nazi's should of used

Definitely the Lee Enfield .303

[<<Genesis93>>]

I know its painful for some.... but they had all the good stuff;

Hunting - 8x57IS or 'J' for some
Assaulting - 8mmKurz (inspiration of the shorty short round.... the firstly the 7.62Soviet...
other stuff / various - 9mmLuger
Hunting small stuff 'with gusto' and class - 5.6x57
Hunting bigger stuff including bitey if needed - 9.3x62

not forgetting what remains as the go - to hunting rifle platform, the Mauser type CRF action

Ye the Nazi were bad ra ra ra but the murikans went to moon with a space craft held together with a big paperclip..... there is a meaning in there, some may understand

[Heckler303]

What the hell happened

[on_one_wheel]

i love a bit of thread creep, next we will be talking about what caliber the nazi's should of used

They should have used these.

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[Gwion]

Haha... Would have saved a heap of trouble all 'round!

[happyhunter]

Getting back on the topic of the election. It appears the Liberals senate reforms, with the blessing of the greens and The Zen-O-Phone are the real reason ranpid racist P. Hanson is back,

Glenn Druery, the so-called "preference whisperer", said One Nation could not have got multiple candidates elected under the former group voting ticket because both major parties, the Greens and many of the minor parties routinely preferenced Ms Hanson last, preventing her on a number of occasions from returning to Parliament.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... pz2kt.html

The royal commissions she wants show her lack of intellect.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Getting back on the topic of the election. It appears the Liberals senate reforms, with the blessing of the greens and The Zen-O-Phone are the real reason ranpid racist P. Hanson is back,

Glenn Druery, the so-called "preference whisperer", said One Nation could not have got multiple candidates elected under the former group voting ticket because both major parties, the Greens and many of the minor parties routinely preferenced Ms Hanson last, preventing her on a number of occasions from returning to Parliament.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... pz2kt.html

The royal commissions she wants show her lack of intellect.

what a surprise, the majors + wanna-be majors conspire to mess with the democratic process.... the famous whisperer confirms his aiding and abetting the criminal enterprise....

I say we call in those carpenters

[Oldbloke]

You mean this.

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[Oldbloke]

Or this:

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[<<Genesis93>>]

I think as soon as any mention of superiority of race/creed/culture, or of the 'importance of not mixing' slides in, we are talking racial hatred in one form or other. Fear mongering about "being overtaken" is in the same league or maybe worse, as it is just subverting the message "keep Australia White"; which, in essence, is all the Oxley Moron has ever had to say.

When was superiority mentioned?

If one stated that they are 'white' and they hate 'blacks', or for that matter, they're 'black and they hate 'whites' (which is very common)...

Thats one thing.

But if they say they're 'white' and wish for future generations, say in 1,000 year the races to remain distinguishable....does that mean they 'hate' other races?

Personally, I'm proud of my European ancestry / race, and I'm proud of the European culture, one that incorporates moral values, familiar values, a hunting culture... food culture the way I/we interact with friends acquaintances as well as strangers etc.... and surprisingly I relate more to those of a similar background. I have nothing in common with Africans, Asians (thats a good part of the globe)....and I feel no compulsion to change that, doesnt mean I hate others.... does this however make me 'a white supremacist' racist??


As far as the current calls of 'RACIST!" echoing around the joint at Pauline because she want the royal commish into Islam..... someone needs to tell the presstitutes and sundry mouthpieces that Islam is not a .....um..... race.......yeah, details, shemtails....

[Gwion]

I'm not getting back into it. Most of us remember the Oxley Moron's racist rhetoric from 20 years ago. Just because her current rhetoric now falls more technically under the banner of xenophobia, it doesn't mean she isn't still a rampant racist.