ZaineB wrote:depending on the sheep they could be fetching as much as $250 a head at the moment, seems retarded beyond all belief that you would want to just outright shoot them.
ZaineB wrote:just round them up onto a trailer and sell them, simple.
No1Mk3 wrote:G'day bladeracer,
This is a Local Council matter, the landowner should contact his local Ranger and inform them there is stock at large. Rangers are authorized under the Impounding of Livestock Act 1994 to deal with these animals. If the owner of the sheep is aware of the issue, and is willing to put it in writing, then rounding up and selling of the sheep and splitting the money after deducting costs would be the best bet, as ZaineB pointed out there could be a few quid in this, Cheers.
ZaineB wrote:if they are not shorn or crotched regularly that is cause for the RSPCA to have penalties brought against the guy, perhaps tell him that if they arent adequately housed (fenced in), and regularly shorn, drenched, needled, crotched, if they arent marked that they are as good as not his.
Oldbloke wrote:This stuff is always a bit like catch 22. You can't win.
Not sure this is of use. However my understanding is if they are loose on un-leased public land you can capture or shoot if you want. Treat the same as pests. Cant quote the Act though.
ZaineB wrote:well whatever the arrangment is, sounds very odd and dumb to me all over, but the person who wants the pest animals out, if not wanting to be direct and assertive with the other landowner, should just go ahead and fence off their property properly at their own expense, then set about treating any livestock still on the place after as their own. if the other bloke doesnt like that they will be fenced in there, he has that time to come and get them out. if he fails to act, that is his fault. really I cant see how someone would not have already addressed the fence situation if good biosecurity is their aim.
ZaineB wrote:well fences are good policy regardless, you cant imply someone or especially some animal is infringing on your property if you yourself have not gone to the lengths to fence the property correctly. its pretty much a universal cost most to all land owners incur, even cattle stations of 400,000+ acres have fences. I find it hard to have an argument for biosecurity if there is no measures to keep out undesirable species.
ZaineB wrote:again "I find it hard to have an argument for biosecurity if there is no measure to keep out undesirable species", biosecurity encompasses the issue of domesticated livestock infringing on land. not one property owner that I know has ever fallen short of installing required fencing to keep out whatever pests or trespassers they wish to keep out, its kind of just common sense,
Oldbloke wrote:"The plantation was a lease but is being returned to National Park."
bladeracer
So,, an old pine plantation is about to become NP. (National neglect park)
Sheesh, madness
Well,, if it was me. As soon as a sheep trespasses I would shoot it.
Shoot.
Shovel. (Stew)
Shutup.
ZaineB wrote:if the sheep are indeed un marked and on your mates property they are as good as his, the other bloke has no claim to them, further more if the other bloke has not got a brand, then he cant claim them anyway, I would tee up a cocky that wants the sheep, round em up (dont care how wild they are all sheep can be rounded up), and shove em on a trailer or whatever and make some coin back for the issues they have caused.
bladeracer wrote:As I said, the consensus is that they don't want to bring him legal trouble if it can be avoided. But, the other landowners also don't want to bring legal problems down on themselves by dealing with the problem in haste. The ideal I think is to shoot them and distribute the meat around the neighbours involved.
Fionn wrote:bladeracer wrote:As I said, the consensus is that they don't want to bring him legal trouble if it can be avoided. But, the other landowners also don't want to bring legal problems down on themselves by dealing with the problem in haste. The ideal I think is to shoot them and distribute the meat around the neighbours involved.
Shooting the sheep without the owners expressed permission is illegal and a very good way to lose your licence and firearms if he objects to you doing such.
Just because he is breaking the law, doesn't mean you can.
No1Mk3 has told you the best way to handle it and the laws that cover it. ie. Impounding of Livestock Act 1994
If you are going to risk shooting them, then like murders, make sure there are no witnesses, tell know one and dispose of the bodies so they can't be found.