Surely the Victorian cop killer wasn't registered?

[Jackaroo]

Surely the Victorian cop killer wasn't registered after all the police knew about him?

What a terrible tragedy for the killed officers and their families and colleagues.

[Jackaroo]

Hopefully he hasn't topped himself and the police don't shoot him.....he needs to suffer for many many decades at the hands of corrective services personnel in a supermax type gaol..

[alexjones]

I love how as soon as the shooting happened every single media buzzword was used against the shooter. They new his entire backstory instantly. Very interesting.

[Wapiti]

Old mate needs to turn himself in, surrounded by his family, hopefully in front of TV crews so he cannot be executed by the same people that won't allow YOU to take the law into your own hands in a moment of crisis.
What's the bet the intention is to execute him out of public eyes. In the bush.

[Fester]

Full regards to the victims and their families.

He has had previous arrests and on their radar before the warrant serving so how would he be licensed?

If he was, however, the thing that will save us, is him being one of the active far-right white supremacist group members.
For the media scum, that should trump "tougher gun laws" but the Greens will still have a go against us as that seems to be one of their main agendas.

Look at how they have chucked in the Port Arthur dentist "professional speaker from Byron Bay" on his FB profile, to try and defeat the NSW conservation hunting bill.
The Invasive Species Control mob trying to advise the govt against us.
Luckily the ex-green staffer leading that has discredited him self and spun the spin under oath to seal the deal.

Has the loon murderer been caught or shot yet?

[MG5150]

Hopefully he gets to tell his side of the story, because we aren't being told the whole truth.

Without any disrespect to the deceased, I hope this isn't used to usher in harsher gun control laws or knock back castle law discussions due in parliament today

[alexjones]

The police commissioner says he is on the run with “powerful firearms”.

So I take that to mean he has a 50bmg with armour piercing rounds. However the reality is it is probably just a 308 rifle and the dead cops glock.

[womble]

He ambushed and murdered 2 detectives.

He won't get taken alive.

He's not far right. He identifies as a sovereign citizen. Got sucked into the anti vax rabbit holes during covid. Protested during lockdown. Took part in the cooker convoy to Canberra.

10 police attended to serve a warrant for some child abuse thing and a firearms prohibition order.

Would seem he was licenced at some point and they believed he still had access to firearms.
He's been causing trouble up there for the last few years and is well known to police. He tried to arrest the magistrate at his last hearing so yeah, he's looney tunes.

Hopefully he's topped himself already.

[alexjones]

The news says the police were looking for unlicensed guns and he shot them with a shotgun

[womble]

There is some chatter his license had been revoked. Apparently since the Queensland shootings they’ve been doing this with SovCits.

They’d taken his drivers license also,

But he’s 56 years old. So there is a chance he had a few guns they never new about.

[fnq22]

He ambushed and murdered 2 detectives.

He won't get taken alive.

He's not far right. He identifies as a sovereign citizen. Got sucked into the anti vax rabbit holes during covid. Protested during lockdown. Took part in the cooker convoy to Canberra.

10 police attended to serve a warrant for some child abuse thing and a firearms prohibition order.

Would seem he was licenced at some point and they believed he still had access to firearms.
He's been causing trouble up there for the last few years and is well known to police. He tried to arrest the magistrate at his last hearing so yeah, he's looney tunes.

Hopefully he's topped himself already.

My sentiments exactly....

Fukkin oxygen thief..think they can use the roads, the healthcare system, the court system, and social security but contribute nothing but trouble in return....

Hopefully if he hasnt put a gun in his mouth yet the Special Operations guys do it for him as painfully as possible....

[Robin]

He's going to get killed, and part of me hopes he will, if he goes to jail, he's going to have alot of fans in jail as alot of them inside hate cops, so he will have a celebrity type status, personally if it was up to me, I would have him flayed.

I feel sorry for the families as they have lost a love one because or someones selftesh views.

[alexjones]

So a bloke they know hates cops and could have unregistered firearms and is living in his bus on a farm and the police pay him a visit to his domain? He already thinks the police are after him so you are confirming his fears. What did you think would happen?

You would think they could intercept him on his way into town or something similar.

[Robin]

So a bloke they know hates cops and could have unregistered firearms and is living in his bus on a farm and the police pay him a visit to his domain? He already thinks the police are after him so you are confirming his fears. What did you think would happen?

You would think they could intercept him on his way into town or something similar.

It's not something that happens alot here, and unfortunately its started to happen more, maybe its time to give the cops some form or armoured vehicle that they can use in future or have the scene inspected with drones first.

[womble]

Had lost his firearms license prior. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-27/alleged-porepunkah-shooter-dezi-freeman-gun-licence/105704656?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link


At least the system worked there.

Strangely feel relieved they can’t blame all of us. As bizarre as that sounds, that’s the logic they apply.

Not much consolation for anyone though, given two of our best lost their lives.

Hopefully prevents the next fruit loop from shooting anyone.

[womble]

I think he might have been unalived yesterday afternoon.

Media went dark. Nothing since. All a bit sus

[MG5150]

On another note, all vic police wear body cams so you think at least one of the ten officers would have a recording of what happened.

[alexjones]

I want to know how 1 bloke managed to get away from 10 police with 10 guns.

In America a lot of “beat cops” carry long arms in their cars. Police in Australia don't really do that.

A lot of police departments in America allow the cop to use their own personal gun so that person can be more competent in a gun fight.

I feel like compared to American police Australian police lack firearm skills.

Probably a culture thing. Australian police hate guns so they don't practise often.

[alexjones]

If I was a cop I would be training even more than I do now and would try to claim everything as a tax write off haha

[fnq22]

Not the smartest character ..shoots cops..flee's into the bush..

Where's he going to go..?...Its not America where you could head for the border of Canada or Mexico and live as a fugitive and possibly fight extradition if ever apprehended...

Freezing you ass off in a bush cave eating witchety grubs doesnt quite hold the same appeal as margaritas and senoritas on the beach of Alcapuco now does it..

Would have thought, given his views, that he would would have went out in a blaze of glory in a gunfight when the original police convoy arrived...

Anyone else find it ironic that this government-hating career dole- bludger has now single-handedly put his whole community into protective lockdown because of his own actions....

[MG5150]

I feel like compared to American police Australian police lack firearm skills.

Probably a culture thing. Australian police hate guns so they don't practise often.

A mate of mine says they only need to do a range shoot once every quarter (or maybe even 6 months) and most people do the minimum and never put in any extra effort.

[alexjones]

Maybe he ran out of ammo. Maybe he could of of been apprehended and is getting a beatdown. Who knows. I don't always believe what the mews tells me.

[alexjones]

I feel like compared to American police Australian police lack firearm skills.

Probably a culture thing. Australian police hate guns so they don't practise often.

A mate of mine says they only need to do a range shoot once every quarter (or maybe even 6 months) and most people do the minimum and never put in any extra effort.

I think in Queensland its once a year?

[Wapiti]

I want to know how 1 bloke managed to get away from 10 police with 10 guns.

Incompetence.

First he was a "sovereign citizen", something I'd never heard of. Obviously a term to describe someone they want to diminish in the stupid public's opinions.
Then he escaped with this wife and kids, possibly shielding him so he couldn't be executed by "one of our best".
Then, no-one knew if he was armed. It was said he may have escaped with a firearm, nobody saw him.
Then, the reports said he won't be able to avoid the massive police skill in tracking, and sheer manpower might.
But he continued to do so.
Then, the excuse was that he may have had a cache stash, and spider holes somewhere.
Then, his family became "hostages" to further demonise him, again all guessing.
Following that, he morphed into "heavily armed" and dangerous.
And pathetically after that, the city boy they were going to "snipe" from out of a helicopter suddenly became "an experienced bushman"

Incompetence, like the handling of the information prior to the Wieambilla incident, where innocent cops were killed because someone knew they would be coming for them.
Demonise the hunters and target shooters, with a "national register" That'll solve it!!

I wonder what new restrictions have been sitting on the shelf in Sictoria, waiting for another screw-up to foist on the good citizens?

[alexjones]

They said assistance has come in from NSW. I assume that means that Commando TAG from the Army at Holsworthy.

[alexjones]

Anyone find it Interesting that the police commissioner of Victoria started a month ago and comes from NZ?

Where he was the NZ police commissioner and left 1 year after the mosque shooting?


Why the F is the police commissioner of Victoria not even a cop from Victoria? He always worked as a cop in NZ.


The police in NZ F’ed up and failed procedure giving the NZ shooter his gun licence. New gun laws started under his reign and I wonder what new law will come under his reign now.

[Billo]

I want to know how 1 bloke managed to get away from 10 police with 10 guns.

In America a lot of “beat cops” carry long arms in their cars. Police in Australia don't really do that.

A lot of police departments in America allow the cop to use their own personal gun so that person can be more competent in a gun fight.

I feel like compared to American police Australian police lack firearm skills.

Probably a culture thing. Australian police hate guns so they don't practise often.

If you saw 3 of you work colleagues gunned down and had no idea of the shooters position I wonder how brave you would be in removing yourself from cover and taking on a clearly well armed and skilled opposition.

[Wapiti]

They thought they had the drop on him, that's why there were 10 of them.
All the prior stuff they had reason to believe he mightn't be too co-operative.
They knew he just might not be easy pickings, that's quite obvious by sending apparently 10 officers, detectives and all.

From what I'm seeing society slide down into, it's the politicians and police that are actually causing this.
Just look at the posts here from so many people on any and all topics of how politicians are mismanaging this country.
And yet people still seem to be surprised when someone cracks.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning any of this, I think it's terrible. And I completely find old mates' reactions completely unacceptable and solves nothing.
But I for one am not surprised when some people's personal BS meter hits the red.

[fnq22]

I want to know how 1 bloke managed to get away from 10 police with 10 guns.

In America a lot of “beat cops” carry long arms in their cars. Police in Australia don't really do that.

A lot of police departments in America allow the cop to use their own personal gun so that person can be more competent in a gun fight.

I feel like compared to American police Australian police lack firearm skills.

Probably a culture thing. Australian police hate guns so they don't practise often.

Lots of assumptions there fella...I havent heard to many cops say they "hate " guns..

Also plenty of US cops are ex military so obviously have combat ready firearms skills...possibly why some go full-rambo at the drop of a hat also unfortunately...

and we have discussed on another thread about the pathetic yearly training requirements for cops in QLD...
There was a a newly recruited local cop at our last club service pistol shoot..he came 12th out of 13 in that division..including getting well beaten by a woman and a teenager... Need I say more..

and as i mentioned the risk assessment and planning(or lack of) of that 10 man operation was an absolute shemozzle...I think we all can agree on that...Heads should roll..!

I'm still totally flabbergasted that they thought that if there was a need to send 10 cops along that they sent in regular cops and detectives rather then a tactical group that is actually trained for such potential situations as this..Its mind-blowing really ...

and of course wapiti ,the media circus will keep us entertained with whatever BS is needed to sell copy and stay on the front page....

[Fester]

We can only guess what happened, but maybe only the three cops went in to execute the warrant, and the others were waiting at the gate to drive in and start the search after.

That would explain why there was no big shoot-out and he had time to take the victims' guns and flee.

It should be only a matter of time, but Nadden hid out for about 7 years, and those Stocko tunes.
They stayed and worked on farms. coming back for payback and murders when the farmers got rid of the weirdos.
They shared the same bed FFS