Definition of 'supervision' with unlicensed shooters

[RealNick]

I haven't been able to find an exact definition of this. Can anyone point me to some documentation?

I mean can a shooter supervise 1 person only? Stand between a pair benches and supervise 2? Watch 4-5 from behind the line?

Does supervise me sit directly next to? Just be handy for questions and problems? Is there a 'must be within X metres' statement anywhere?

All very vague...

[Mule]

Well at ssaa springvale 1 ro looks after upto 12 unlicenced shooters. So id use that as a refrence but personaly id suggest 3 max as for legal stuff maby a call to licensing services

[1290]

I would suggest 1 on 1! or maybe standing between 2 shooters...if the SSAA consider 12 shooters to be adequately supervised...

The law refers to 'immediate supervision', so if the supervisor (who can be an RO or anyone with an appropriate licence) is 4 shooters away instructing Johno on how to properly shoulder the rifle.... then he couldn't possible be immediately supervising Davo, 4 benches away.


Firearm Act 1996
SCHEDULE 3
NON-PROHIBITED PERSONS WHO ARE EXEMPT FROM REQUIREMENT TO HOLD A LICENCE UNDER PART 2
5] Any person who is of or over the age of 18 years who is receiving instruction in the use of a category A or category B firearm by or under the immediate supervision of the holder of a category A or category B longarm licence.

When carrying or using a longarm of the category specified in the supervisor's licence for the purposes of receiving the instruction at an approved shooting range.

[AusC]

Well at ssaa springvale 1 ro looks after upto 12 unlicenced shooters.

I suspect that probably wouldn't apply to average joe shooter supervising as they haven't done the RO course etc.

One on one for my book. Take 2-3 people if you want but I'd be supervising only 1 shooter at a time.

[scrolllock]

I was told by the RO at the SSAA Springvale range you needed to be right next to the person shooting.

There was a guy there on the day shooting with a friend who got his friend setup, and stood back a few metres from the benches so he wasn't crowning them. He was focused on his friends shooting, not screwing around back there.

RO made him come forward and stand directly behind the guy.

[agentzero]

If I remember right Warrigul is/was an RO?

Could PM if he doesn't drop by...

[VICHunter]

under the immediate supervision

"Immediate" is the only qualifier I've seen in the various Acts and literature. To the best of my knowledge there is no specified maximum number of underlings for a licensed shooter to supervise.

Should the worst happen and something went wrong, I think it would be up to the courts interpretation and your demonstration that they were under your "immediate" supervision.

It's not going to be a case of be 100cm away and you're in the right, 101cm away and you're in the wrong.

If they're shooting and you've got your back turned to chat up the girl behind the sign in counter though you'd be struggling to say that was "immediate".

[Oldbloke]

I would suggest 1 on 1! or maybe standing between 2 shooters...if the SSAA consider 12 shooters to be adequately supervised...

The law refers to 'immediate supervision', so if the supervisor (who can be an RO or anyone with an appropriate licence) is 4 shooters away instructing Johno on how to properly shoulder the rifle.... then he couldn't possible be immediately supervising Davo, 4 benches away.


Firearm Act 1996
SCHEDULE 3
NON-PROHIBITED PERSONS WHO ARE EXEMPT FROM REQUIREMENT TO HOLD A LICENCE UNDER PART 2
5] Any person who is of or over the age of 18 years who is receiving instruction in the use of a category A or category B firearm by or under the immediate supervision of the holder of a category A or category B longarm licence.

When carrying or using a longarm of the category specified in the supervisor's licence for the purposes of receiving the instruction at an approved shooting range.

I agree. Learner drivers are 1 on 1 & if it was a forklift about 1 on 5 max. And that is in very controled conditions. So a max of 2 makes good sense.

[Bourt]

I think at most you could argue 2.

1 shooter on each bench, you standing in the middle.

Arms reach for both would be 'immediate' in my book.

[RealNick]

Thanks for the interpretations guys.

I'll stick with 1 for now and get some opinions of ROs on my next visits.